Quiet Quitting is the only response acceptable to Quiet Firing
Thursday, 13 Mar 2025
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Replace “minimum required” by required alone and it no longer sounds like employees are underperforming or unprofessional. Doing the required tasks and going home is being professional.
In retail, “Quiet Firing” happens all the time. You don’t like the employee for whatever reason, you just schedule them little to no hours until they leave. I’ve seen it happen so many times.
Yeah no Gen Z or Millennial is using this term.
It’s more corporate bullshit to shift blame for their shitty businesses that are failing.
“Act your wage” – I just lost 9 years of raises thanks to wage compression this year, so I’m only doing what’s expected of an entry-level employee.
Quiet quitting a.k.a working to your contract and not doing unpaid overtime. What a wild thing to do.
If “quiet firing” is basically trying to force you to quit by making your life a living hell at the job while still playing nice and making it seem like you’re a “valued member of the team” then damn did I dodge a bullet by transferring stores.
The simple answer is pay them better but that’s always the last thing they want to hear.
Also, it is actually counterproductive to work harder than you’re paid. Cause if your employer is already getting the job of two people from you for min wage, they have no incentive to hire anyone else. And it is possible to make yourself too valuable to promote. It might be more profitable for them to keep you in a lower position that you’re already overworking yourself in than promote you and have to find someone who won’t be as profitable in that same position.
There’s no reward for hard work anymore so why do it? Do the minimum and find fulfillment in your life outside of work.
And they keep asking for you to do more and more in those 5 years.
Quiet promoting where they keep increasing your responsibilities without increasing your pay.
There’s no reward for hard work anymore so why do it? Do the minimum and find fulfillment in your life outside of work.
Or when they pile the work on the one responsible worker while letting the slackers just chill and collect their check
Why just the youngest employees?
Maybe if companies stopped “quiet firing,” people wouldn’t need to “quiet quit.” Respect and pay go both ways.
“Quiet quitting” is just doing what you were hired to do. If that’s a problem, maybe the job description needs a reality check.
In my experience, I’m not that old, I’m 35, but so far the people I’ve seen going the extra mile at work every single day usually have a troublesome home life, which is strange. Most of them were abusive marriages or kids in jail. Healthy people do what is in their job description, and go home to their personal lives that they love and enjoy. People staying late burning the midnight oil are trying desperately to avoid it. Just a random thought I guess.
this is what i never got why should i give 2 weeks notice when I dont get 2 weeks notice if im getting fired.
According to https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ the cumulative rate of inflation from 2019 to 2024 is 23,5%.
Much of the stories surrounding ‘quiet quitting’ can be more accurately labelled as Corporate Propaganda, because not only are young people figuring out that their labor is not anywhere near as highly valued as their parents was but with our wages not keeping pace with inflation at all or at a negative rate we don’t see the value in struggling just to barely afford the basics of life.
Also younger generations are finding more value out of creative, artistic, and academic endevours that don’t entail climbing the corporate ladder just to support more of the bleak capitalist system that has lied and corrupted its way through the last 70 years. No thanks.
When the workplace is louder about “quiet quitting” than it is about “quiet firing,” priorities might need a reality check.
Maybe if companies stopped treating employees like disposable tools, people wouldn’t “quiet quit.” Respect goes both ways.
Also, it doesnt help that lots of work now dont even come with benefits. Who would be so encouraged to work in that condition
They hate “quiet quitting” but love underpaying and overworking. Funny how that works.
Funny how “quiet quitting” is the villain but “quiet firing” is just business strategy
The truth is a lot of those behavior (good or bad) is just an extension of who the person (employee or “management”) really is.
Anyone that’s worked a high paid white collar job can tell you there is people that do fuck all and spend more time arguing and complaining about work than doing actual work. Is the issue that they’re not being paid enough too?
You say people need to be paid more, and I don’t disagree, but anyone thinking that more money is gonna make someone show up on time that isn’t doing it now or make them give a fuck if they don’t now is incredibly foolish. If you don’t give a fuck, you don’t give a fuck, and I promise you more $$$ won’t change that.
A few years ago I worked with a guy who already was granted a later start time of 10am cause he preferred that and he would still show up often after 11 and sometimes 12, it of course affected his ability to get work done and he didn’t really try to stay on top of stuff etc… and that led to being fired from a job well in the 6 figure range.
The actual solution is to get rid of the people that are being difficult and keep and hire the positive ones and treat and pay them well, but you’ll never ever be able to pay someone to change who they truly are.
Quiet firing: adding more and more tasks, not replacing staff when they leave, and creating more demanding conditions with zero support. I can’t tell you how many times this has happened and it seems like a routine to get people to leave so you can reduce the cost of benefits, pay fewer staff, and reduce salaries. They’re always indignant when you give your notice, too.
Minimum pay – minimum effort
Supportive management, clear communication and employee empowerment are key to combating quite quitting
I see a lot of what I call “quiet hiring” where I work. Basically someone leaves and their job is broken down and split between ppl with no pay increases
Quiet firing is when they under-schedule you. Not giving you a raise is just normal
Things they absolutely, positively, will not consider under any circumstances to fix this apparent dire problem:
-pay more
-hire appropriately
-set reasonable standards
Why won’t these pizza parties get them working 60 hour weeks????
Or you get the same 2-3% raise
Back in my day we called “Quiet Quitting”, “doing the job you’re being paid for”.
As an executive at a tech company, I can definitely tell you that there are some folks who
1-Actively try to improve the company and themselves, do well and earn their keep
2-Above but they kinda flail and operate at a lower level than their comp
3-Mail it in, awaiting instructions and doing the minimum asked of you. I call the leaning out.
4-Work the system so much that they are off the reservation. Never seem to be around because they are not around. They are getting paid 40 hours and putting in 20.
Remote work has enabled #4 like never before. We always had #3, like pluggers who just weren’t about the job.
I see #3 conflated with #4 lately but they are very different. #3 should be managed better (a lot of #2 managers out there). #4 should be cut from the team.
Return to work is a reaction the 1s have with how easy it is to be 2, 3 and 4 remotely.
The reality is the since the 70s the US has become all about the billionaires and people are taking their chance to game a system rigged for those who’ve been shafting them their entire working life, so in that way I totally get it. I also support min wage increases, sharing of profits, treating worker bees like humans, etc.
Why does my job now require me to fill multiple positions?:
“its in the writing of the job description: Must also meet the needs of the business”
Somehow Walmart in our region for many years has had serious issues with rapid turnover. So fast that monthly hiring rounds can’t match the new people walking out. Store manager actually said this to me:
“It won’t last, people always need jobs” instead of “we need to make the job appealing”
few years ago, when I used to work there.
You don’t need to rebrand constructive dismissal to quiet firing. There are already laws on the books regarding constructive dismissal.
Gen Z “professionals”
I’m a Boomer who used to employ people. I just don’t understand how we went from wanting the best employees, and rewarding them. They got regular raises, if they worked hard they got promotions, etc. to we have the right to pay as little as possible, fire them for any reason, make sure they know they should be grateful they are employed, and not understand why they don’t want to go above and beyond and if they do, the reward if free pizza at lunch.