You can really see how important the border issue was by looking at the counties on the southern border and seeing how far they shifted right regardless of which state they were in.
Someredditusername
3 months ago
And DNC loving folks are still trying to blame “the voters” instead of fixing their shit.
speculativejester
3 months ago
These comparisons I think really struggle to paint the reality here. It is not that Americans became more favorable to Trump, it is that that they became less favorable to Democrats. Many millions of people just didn’t vote, and the vast majority of those people were (at one point) Democrat voters.
OnionTruck
3 months ago
Dems seriously need to take some time to figure out how they caused so much apathy.
unintentional_jerk
3 months ago
Did they shift toward the Republican Party, or did the democratic voters shift to being nonvoters?
Puzzleheaded-Bat4777
3 months ago
Dems: is it us that’s out of touch with the average voter in the US?
No everyone is just a sexist Nazi. Let’s double down on trying to shame people into voting for us and harping on identity politics! That will work in 2028.
coatespt
3 months ago
Oh, I absolutely can. It’s because the Democrats (my party all my life) trumpet the message “Not the party for you” to the majority of Americans. The Democratic party is hostage to the lunatic fringe, which demonizes men, white people, straight people, conservatives, the religious, etc. But people fitting all or most of those criteria are the overwhelming majority of Americans! The country is 66% white, almost half male, predominately Christian (at least by claim,) and decidedly conservative on social issues. The vast majority of Americans aren’t anti-trans, for instance. They aren’t pro-trans either, whatever that might be. They never even think about it. What they are passionately against is being told that they must restructure their entire understanding of sex and gender, abandon the ancient idea that there is a difference between men and women, boys and girls, and adopt the idea that it’s all just an evil fiction imposed on them by some mysterious patriarchy. It’s balls, and even most Democrats don’t believe it, but the Democrats keep deferring to that group. Why didn’t so much of America vote for Kamala? It’s not because she’s a woman. Americans have no problem electing women governors and legislators. It’s because Kamala’s campaign looked like it was entirely for the urban smarty class, and it looked like she got the nod because a bunch of elitists decided it was a woman’s turn. They simply never shut up about her being “a woman of color.” Honestly, most Americans wouldn’t have given either her race or her gender much thought if the media didn’t harp on it incessantly. I barely thought about it when she first became a public figure. But harping on it constantly makes her race and gender the most important thing and says, “She’s not your candidate, white people, and men especially.” Every time I saw one of her well produced events I slapped my head with the palm of my hand yelling OMG stop! Make it look like there are working class and middle class white folks involved, too! Make it look like it’s their party, too. I’m a liberal from way back, and when I looked at it, even I saw, “white working class and LMC not welcome” all over it. We’re even losing Black and Hispanic voters because we insist that blackness and speaking Spanish are their defining traits! It’s so racist. A Cuban American and a Mexican American have basically nothing in common other than speaking dialects of the same language. But the Democrats treat them all like they just swam across the Rio Grand and should be grateful that we don’t deport them. To the extent that you can say anything meaningful about such diverse groups, both groups think of themselves as Americans, and tend to be quite conservative, traditional, and patriotic, as is typical of Americans. Yet the Democrats appear to expect them to to respond to an appeal to underdog status, as if it’s 1930’s Texas. The one reliable Black vote is also disintegrating because the party treats Black voters like race is their only issue. I don’t believe it is. The real message when the dems focus relentlessly on race and gender is to tell people that WE think you’re second class.
dapper128
3 months ago
Have you all not seen the current state of America? Broke asf. Paychecks dont last until the next one. Gas, that’s a joke. Food twice as much for the same 20 items. Blue states, i.e., Washington basically has a 40% tax on everything. So yeah folks might turn a little red getting fucked involuntarily.
icex7
3 months ago
all the border counties shifted, geee i wonder why
trendy_pineapple
3 months ago
As long as I live, I will never understand this. I am clearly severely out of touch.
kjdecathlete22
3 months ago
The DNC hasn’t held a legit primary in over a decade.
2016 – Bernie was winning but the DNC changed the rules to let Hillary win
2020 – Bernie was winning and the rest of the candidates fell in line and endorsed Biden ultimately letting Biden win
2024 – Kamala didn’t receive one primary vote in either 2020 or 2024 and was elected to be the candidate
It’s pretty clear the DNC thinks they know what’s best for everyone and to fall in line
Oy63
3 months ago
Everybody I know voted Trump. I’m the only one who refused. Most of what I heard from them was about the culture war. Attack a group long enough. Make it personal. You are stupid, immoral, racist, backwards for being you. You have to change the way you have lived your whole life. Boys, don’t be men. If you come from a white area don’t be proud of your community. Do what we tell you and follow along or you will be canceled l, loose your job, loose everything.
Why vote for a group that seems to hate you and the people you love. Having a moderate campaign doesn’t matter if there are a ton of videos of you being super progressive.
Economy, border, inflaming Israel protests to suppress progressive votes, sure. But the war is being fed. Tv, radio, podcast, and an army of foreign influencers on every platform.
mr_mxyzptlk21
3 months ago
“There are three types of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.” — Clemens.
This map is a good example of the latter.
There was no great “red shift”. More or less the same amount of voters came out for Trump as they did in 2020 (slightly more). What happened was the 10 million *less* voters that came out than in 2020 who voted for Biden then. Great psychological tactic of the right to not change voters minds–but to just wear the opposition down to the point of apathy and non-participation in the electoral process.
okram2k
3 months ago
How many counties shifted more towards “did not vote”?
Democratic Shifts (331 counties)
– The county that shifted Democratic by the smallest amount was Crowley County, CO which shifted -0.3% D and -0.4% R.
– The county that shifted Democratic by the largest amount was House District 3, AK which shifted 32.5% D and -32.0% R.
Republican Shifts (2,821 counties)
– The county that shifted Republican by the smallest amount was Adams County, WI which shifted -1.9% R and -2.0% D.
– The county that shifted Republican by the largest amount was House District 33, AK which shifted 46.0% R and -46.0% D.
AmbitiousFlowers
3 months ago
Well, I think that Republicans and MAGA have fans. Democrats don’t have fans at the moment. The fans are motivated to vote. The others aren’t. In 2020, it was easier for people to vote, due to covid. So more non-fans voted versus this year where it would have taken more effort to do so.
Granted, the default should be to make it easy for all citizens to vote….
kami541
3 months ago
Not surprising, the incumbent had an uphill battle when the electorate suffered real wage loss through inflation. That and Harris didn’t do herself any favors by saying, “oh look I’m a Republican too, I want the border wall and look at my neocon warhawk friend Liz Cheney! See I’m just like Nicki fucking Haley!”
Terrible campaign, terrible candidate, the DNC lost because they sucked!
AM_Kylearan
3 months ago
That really tells you everything you need to know about the last four years.
platinum_toilet
3 months ago
Maybe running on abortion and Trump bad like Hitler doesn’t win people over, especially with what happened the last 4 years.
Einaiden
3 months ago
But I was told that the Democrats are appealing to the moderate Republicans
HarrargnNarg
3 months ago
How? Were they not there for Trumps last term?
slippery-fische
3 months ago
Data source? This is just percentage shift, rather than vote count? Was this the presidential or senate counts?Â
Hecateus
3 months ago
Land doesn’t vote.
A visualization of the change in electoral districts would be more useful.
even then “Did Not Vote” is still the single largest voting block.
No-Neighborhood-1754
3 months ago
I can’t understand anyone who goes along with Kamala and says “she’s my candidate”. She didn’t earn ur vote. Biden didn’t earn ur vote either. Dems have been so smug for long that they think every voter is just at their command like mindless sheep. No real primary, forced forfeit of Bidens reelection, then no real debate or election to choose the replacement candidate. Whoever supports Dems, think long and hard what u r signing up for: u r willing to abandon all democratic procedure just to stop one boogeyman, who the dems claim to be the end of democracy. Such blatant hypocrisy and u wonder why people sit this one out? Grow up.
Indelicato182
3 months ago
Keep in mind that Kamala outperformed Hillary in 2016. That really speaks to how strong Trump performed this time around.
Attilashorde
3 months ago
That’s one beautiful looking map!!!
Unlucky_Phase_8858
3 months ago
Yeah I’d be mad if I was a drone human that wants more government and suppression
ChardPuzzleheaded423
3 months ago
This is just pretty normal when times are hard. People just get mad at whoever is steering the ship and vote to replace the captain even when it’s counter to their interests.
DijonDeLaPorte
3 months ago
I still don’t fully grasp the reasoning many people voted Republican, but if I think about it very simplistically this old quote by Jim Carville comes to mind- “The economy, stupid”.
Ship_Ship_8
3 months ago
If there’s anything this election cycle taught me, it’s the importance of investing in our country’s education system.
triumphofthecommons
3 months ago
i keep seeing analyses saying this, but wonder if it takes into account the decline in blue turnout.
considering the significant decline in overall turnout, especially when eligible voter numbers increase between elections, my takeaway was that dems didn’t show up which folks seem to be interpreting as a “red shift.” when in reality it’s just a blue stall.
edit: struggling to find national numbers, but Texas saw a decline.
What’s going on in Southern Alaska?
You can really see how important the border issue was by looking at the counties on the southern border and seeing how far they shifted right regardless of which state they were in.
And DNC loving folks are still trying to blame “the voters” instead of fixing their shit.
These comparisons I think really struggle to paint the reality here. It is not that Americans became more favorable to Trump, it is that that they became less favorable to Democrats. Many millions of people just didn’t vote, and the vast majority of those people were (at one point) Democrat voters.
Dems seriously need to take some time to figure out how they caused so much apathy.
Did they shift toward the Republican Party, or did the democratic voters shift to being nonvoters?
Dems: is it us that’s out of touch with the average voter in the US?
No everyone is just a sexist Nazi. Let’s double down on trying to shame people into voting for us and harping on identity politics! That will work in 2028.
Oh, I absolutely can. It’s because the Democrats (my party all my life) trumpet the message “Not the party for you” to the majority of Americans. The Democratic party is hostage to the lunatic fringe, which demonizes men, white people, straight people, conservatives, the religious, etc. But people fitting all or most of those criteria are the overwhelming majority of Americans! The country is 66% white, almost half male, predominately Christian (at least by claim,) and decidedly conservative on social issues. The vast majority of Americans aren’t anti-trans, for instance. They aren’t pro-trans either, whatever that might be. They never even think about it. What they are passionately against is being told that they must restructure their entire understanding of sex and gender, abandon the ancient idea that there is a difference between men and women, boys and girls, and adopt the idea that it’s all just an evil fiction imposed on them by some mysterious patriarchy. It’s balls, and even most Democrats don’t believe it, but the Democrats keep deferring to that group. Why didn’t so much of America vote for Kamala? It’s not because she’s a woman. Americans have no problem electing women governors and legislators. It’s because Kamala’s campaign looked like it was entirely for the urban smarty class, and it looked like she got the nod because a bunch of elitists decided it was a woman’s turn. They simply never shut up about her being “a woman of color.” Honestly, most Americans wouldn’t have given either her race or her gender much thought if the media didn’t harp on it incessantly. I barely thought about it when she first became a public figure. But harping on it constantly makes her race and gender the most important thing and says, “She’s not your candidate, white people, and men especially.” Every time I saw one of her well produced events I slapped my head with the palm of my hand yelling OMG stop! Make it look like there are working class and middle class white folks involved, too! Make it look like it’s their party, too. I’m a liberal from way back, and when I looked at it, even I saw, “white working class and LMC not welcome” all over it. We’re even losing Black and Hispanic voters because we insist that blackness and speaking Spanish are their defining traits! It’s so racist. A Cuban American and a Mexican American have basically nothing in common other than speaking dialects of the same language. But the Democrats treat them all like they just swam across the Rio Grand and should be grateful that we don’t deport them. To the extent that you can say anything meaningful about such diverse groups, both groups think of themselves as Americans, and tend to be quite conservative, traditional, and patriotic, as is typical of Americans. Yet the Democrats appear to expect them to to respond to an appeal to underdog status, as if it’s 1930’s Texas. The one reliable Black vote is also disintegrating because the party treats Black voters like race is their only issue. I don’t believe it is. The real message when the dems focus relentlessly on race and gender is to tell people that WE think you’re second class.
Have you all not seen the current state of America? Broke asf. Paychecks dont last until the next one. Gas, that’s a joke. Food twice as much for the same 20 items. Blue states, i.e., Washington basically has a 40% tax on everything. So yeah folks might turn a little red getting fucked involuntarily.
all the border counties shifted, geee i wonder why
As long as I live, I will never understand this. I am clearly severely out of touch.
The DNC hasn’t held a legit primary in over a decade.
2016 – Bernie was winning but the DNC changed the rules to let Hillary win
2020 – Bernie was winning and the rest of the candidates fell in line and endorsed Biden ultimately letting Biden win
2024 – Kamala didn’t receive one primary vote in either 2020 or 2024 and was elected to be the candidate
It’s pretty clear the DNC thinks they know what’s best for everyone and to fall in line
Everybody I know voted Trump. I’m the only one who refused. Most of what I heard from them was about the culture war. Attack a group long enough. Make it personal. You are stupid, immoral, racist, backwards for being you. You have to change the way you have lived your whole life. Boys, don’t be men. If you come from a white area don’t be proud of your community. Do what we tell you and follow along or you will be canceled l, loose your job, loose everything.
Why vote for a group that seems to hate you and the people you love. Having a moderate campaign doesn’t matter if there are a ton of videos of you being super progressive.
Economy, border, inflaming Israel protests to suppress progressive votes, sure. But the war is being fed. Tv, radio, podcast, and an army of foreign influencers on every platform.
“There are three types of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.” — Clemens.
This map is a good example of the latter.
There was no great “red shift”. More or less the same amount of voters came out for Trump as they did in 2020 (slightly more). What happened was the 10 million *less* voters that came out than in 2020 who voted for Biden then. Great psychological tactic of the right to not change voters minds–but to just wear the opposition down to the point of apathy and non-participation in the electoral process.
How many counties shifted more towards “did not vote”?
Tools: Excel, ArcGIS Pro
Sources:
– https://github.com/tonmcg/US_County_Level_Election_Results_08-24
– https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/president
– https://www.elections.alaska.gov/
– https://www.nhgis.org/
This post is inspired by u/EverestMaher’s post from yesterday ([link here](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1h19tr8/with_almost_every_vote_counted_every_state/)). Almost 90% of counties shifted toward the Republican Party.
Democratic Shifts (331 counties)
– The county that shifted Democratic by the smallest amount was Crowley County, CO which shifted -0.3% D and -0.4% R.
– The county that shifted Democratic by the largest amount was House District 3, AK which shifted 32.5% D and -32.0% R.
Republican Shifts (2,821 counties)
– The county that shifted Republican by the smallest amount was Adams County, WI which shifted -1.9% R and -2.0% D.
– The county that shifted Republican by the largest amount was House District 33, AK which shifted 46.0% R and -46.0% D.
Well, I think that Republicans and MAGA have fans. Democrats don’t have fans at the moment. The fans are motivated to vote. The others aren’t. In 2020, it was easier for people to vote, due to covid. So more non-fans voted versus this year where it would have taken more effort to do so.
Granted, the default should be to make it easy for all citizens to vote….
Not surprising, the incumbent had an uphill battle when the electorate suffered real wage loss through inflation. That and Harris didn’t do herself any favors by saying, “oh look I’m a Republican too, I want the border wall and look at my neocon warhawk friend Liz Cheney! See I’m just like Nicki fucking Haley!”
Terrible campaign, terrible candidate, the DNC lost because they sucked!
That really tells you everything you need to know about the last four years.
Maybe running on abortion and Trump bad like Hitler doesn’t win people over, especially with what happened the last 4 years.
But I was told that the Democrats are appealing to the moderate Republicans
How? Were they not there for Trumps last term?
Data source? This is just percentage shift, rather than vote count? Was this the presidential or senate counts?Â
Land doesn’t vote.
A visualization of the change in electoral districts would be more useful.
even then “Did Not Vote” is still the single largest voting block.
I can’t understand anyone who goes along with Kamala and says “she’s my candidate”. She didn’t earn ur vote. Biden didn’t earn ur vote either. Dems have been so smug for long that they think every voter is just at their command like mindless sheep. No real primary, forced forfeit of Bidens reelection, then no real debate or election to choose the replacement candidate. Whoever supports Dems, think long and hard what u r signing up for: u r willing to abandon all democratic procedure just to stop one boogeyman, who the dems claim to be the end of democracy. Such blatant hypocrisy and u wonder why people sit this one out? Grow up.
Keep in mind that Kamala outperformed Hillary in 2016. That really speaks to how strong Trump performed this time around.
That’s one beautiful looking map!!!
Yeah I’d be mad if I was a drone human that wants more government and suppression
This is just pretty normal when times are hard. People just get mad at whoever is steering the ship and vote to replace the captain even when it’s counter to their interests.
I still don’t fully grasp the reasoning many people voted Republican, but if I think about it very simplistically this old quote by Jim Carville comes to mind- “The economy, stupid”.
If there’s anything this election cycle taught me, it’s the importance of investing in our country’s education system.
i keep seeing analyses saying this, but wonder if it takes into account the decline in blue turnout.
considering the significant decline in overall turnout, especially when eligible voter numbers increase between elections, my takeaway was that dems didn’t show up which folks seem to be interpreting as a “red shift.” when in reality it’s just a blue stall.
edit: struggling to find national numbers, but Texas saw a decline.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/06/texas-voter-turnout-election-2024-registration/
and NY state:
https://nysfocus.com/2024/11/09/low-voter-turnout-trump-harris