Imagine paying for health insurance just to get denied when you actually need it. This system is so broken.
lokey_convo
3 months ago
I had a fun experience with Anthem. Got denied for a CT scan that I needed for a procedure they covered. Couldn’t get the procedure without the CT scan, so by denying the scan they were issuing a de-facto denial of the procedure even though the policy covered it. Went round and round with them for a couple months until one of their people told me the criteria didn’t have to do with Anthem, but this third party company “unaffiliated” with Anthem they used for their imaging standards.
So I looked up the company and read all their standards, then I researched the company, and also researched Anthem, and found out that there was someone who held a senior position at both. So I named that person the next time I called to appeal the issue and also named them in a complaint to an outside advocacy group. And wouldn’t you know it, when I followed up with them a couple weeks later I was approved for the CT scan AND they were giving me extra time on the authorization for my troubles.
blue_quark
3 months ago
Hmmm, United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, murdered in Manhattan this morning. I wonder if their, industry topping, claim denial rate could be a motivating factor in what appears to be a cold assassination.
MercenaryBard
3 months ago
UHC is by far the worst of them but every one of those claim denial rates is unacceptable.
There aren’t people going to the doctor and making claims for fucking fun. For every hypochondriac there are hundreds of thousands of normal people just trying to get care. We don’t LIKE going to the goddamn hospital this isn’t a recreational activity for us.
Every single claim they deny is a human being who was asking the company to do what the company said they would do. Until these denial rates are below 1% every dollar the insurance industry makes in profit is money TAKEN FROM US.
hotvedub
3 months ago
Looks like the CEO of Medica is about to hire some body guards
Unlucky_Roti
3 months ago
A while back, the people rose up and put their rulers to the guillotine.
Is walking up to greedy corporate execs and shoot them the new guillie? Is this a new trend?
JrB11784
3 months ago
Because in the United States insurance is tied to your job and most people do not have a choice, unfortunately.
PrecedentialAssassin
3 months ago
As a United Healthcare forced insurance customer who received a $35,000 ER bill because my daughter in college had a severe migraine and United Healthcare denied a fuckton of charges, all I gotta say is that a certain news story this morning doesn’t really upset me at all.
Immediate-Oven-9577
3 months ago
United healthcare may want to start approving all claims.
NauvooLegionnaire11
3 months ago
The only reason Ambetter and Oscar are so low is that it’s nearly impossible to find a doctor who takes that insurance. You can’t get a claim rejected if you can’t find a doctor to see in the first place.
ChaoticGoodPanda
3 months ago
I was recently dropped from UHC for an unknown reason. Still figuring out what happened.
I’m going to need a referral to a specialist to give a shit about a CEO and his record profits.
K1tsunea
3 months ago
I’m starting to understand why that CEO got shot
Agn0stic_Ape
3 months ago
I hope they never find the shooter and if they do, I hope for some good old fashioned jury nullification.
pascal9292
3 months ago
I hope the other CEO’s are shaking in their boots right about now.
pcurve
3 months ago
Fun Fact.
In the past 40 years, Apple’s stock went up 200,000%.
During the same period, United Health’s stock went up 500,000%.
iluvvivapuffs
3 months ago
So 1/3 of United healthcare patients are suspects
Hug_of_Death
3 months ago
I have a feeling that UnitedHealthcare may have denied claims for at least 1 person too many…
DarkAngel900
3 months ago
I’m sure the companies on the top half of this illustration still make plenty of money. The bottom portion, it’s just greed. The American populace for the most part hates this kind of greed. Too bad they don’t hate the greed enough to nationalize healthcare.
MilkmanResidue
3 months ago
Medica CEO is going to be walking on eggshells now.
SatanicKitten69420
3 months ago
Is this what south park meant by navigating the American Healthcare system
Well, I’m sure it won’t change anything, but at least satan gained a new fuck doll today
Mortimer452
3 months ago
How is the industry average 16% when the largest health insurance company in the world, by a huge margin, is 32%?
Tao-of-Mars
3 months ago
Please, please, please advocate for yourselves by submitting an appeal request. It typically results in an approval. I know because I work for a healthcare organization and I’ve done it myself.
dawfun
3 months ago
Funny story. I know a guy who worked at UH about 15 years ago and supported a thing he referred to as “the rejection machine”. All claims are passed through this system and an arbitrary 1/3 of all claims are rejected. If the claim is not resubmitted, they never have to pay the claim. If it is resubmitted, it goes back into “the rejection machine” and tries its luck again, and so on until the patient/doctor stop resubmitting or until it makes it through “the rejection machine” and will then be reviewed by an an actual human.
So literally, by design, their process is to reject 1/3 or vs all claims out of hand, regardless of their merit. That was what I was told about 15 years ago, and from the looks of this chart, the math still checks out.
I have no idea how they are able to so blatantly operate this way.
simonbleu
3 months ago
If only the US had enough money to create a universal public healthcare that insurance companies have to compete with….. Oh wait, the US already spends twice as much as the next country on the podium when it comes to taxes? And has no public service? Oh boy
ThreeBelugas
3 months ago
Wtf, I never knew it’s this high. This is ridiculous, how is claim denial not regulated? People should be able to appeal to a government judge.
Imagine paying for health insurance just to get denied when you actually need it. This system is so broken.
I had a fun experience with Anthem. Got denied for a CT scan that I needed for a procedure they covered. Couldn’t get the procedure without the CT scan, so by denying the scan they were issuing a de-facto denial of the procedure even though the policy covered it. Went round and round with them for a couple months until one of their people told me the criteria didn’t have to do with Anthem, but this third party company “unaffiliated” with Anthem they used for their imaging standards.
So I looked up the company and read all their standards, then I researched the company, and also researched Anthem, and found out that there was someone who held a senior position at both. So I named that person the next time I called to appeal the issue and also named them in a complaint to an outside advocacy group. And wouldn’t you know it, when I followed up with them a couple weeks later I was approved for the CT scan AND they were giving me extra time on the authorization for my troubles.
Hmmm, United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, murdered in Manhattan this morning. I wonder if their, industry topping, claim denial rate could be a motivating factor in what appears to be a cold assassination.
UHC is by far the worst of them but every one of those claim denial rates is unacceptable.
There aren’t people going to the doctor and making claims for fucking fun. For every hypochondriac there are hundreds of thousands of normal people just trying to get care. We don’t LIKE going to the goddamn hospital this isn’t a recreational activity for us.
Every single claim they deny is a human being who was asking the company to do what the company said they would do. Until these denial rates are below 1% every dollar the insurance industry makes in profit is money TAKEN FROM US.
Looks like the CEO of Medica is about to hire some body guards
A while back, the people rose up and put their rulers to the guillotine.
Is walking up to greedy corporate execs and shoot them the new guillie? Is this a new trend?
Because in the United States insurance is tied to your job and most people do not have a choice, unfortunately.
As a United Healthcare forced insurance customer who received a $35,000 ER bill because my daughter in college had a severe migraine and United Healthcare denied a fuckton of charges, all I gotta say is that a certain news story this morning doesn’t really upset me at all.
United healthcare may want to start approving all claims.
The only reason Ambetter and Oscar are so low is that it’s nearly impossible to find a doctor who takes that insurance. You can’t get a claim rejected if you can’t find a doctor to see in the first place.
I was recently dropped from UHC for an unknown reason. Still figuring out what happened.
I’m going to need a referral to a specialist to give a shit about a CEO and his record profits.
I’m starting to understand why that CEO got shot
I hope they never find the shooter and if they do, I hope for some good old fashioned jury nullification.
I hope the other CEO’s are shaking in their boots right about now.
Fun Fact.
In the past 40 years, Apple’s stock went up 200,000%.
During the same period, United Health’s stock went up 500,000%.
So 1/3 of United healthcare patients are suspects
I have a feeling that UnitedHealthcare may have denied claims for at least 1 person too many…
I’m sure the companies on the top half of this illustration still make plenty of money. The bottom portion, it’s just greed. The American populace for the most part hates this kind of greed. Too bad they don’t hate the greed enough to nationalize healthcare.
Medica CEO is going to be walking on eggshells now.
Is this what south park meant by navigating the American Healthcare system
Andrew witty the former CEO in ‘23 made a 352:1 compared to his employees. Also keep that in mind. I’m sure that ratio is much higher now. (https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/unitedhealth-s-witty-was-highest-paid-us-health-insurer-ceo-in-2023-83005885). David cordani (Cigna) is at 280:1 if you were curious.
Actions have consequences …..
Well, I’m sure it won’t change anything, but at least satan gained a new fuck doll today
How is the industry average 16% when the largest health insurance company in the world, by a huge margin, is 32%?
Please, please, please advocate for yourselves by submitting an appeal request. It typically results in an approval. I know because I work for a healthcare organization and I’ve done it myself.
Funny story. I know a guy who worked at UH about 15 years ago and supported a thing he referred to as “the rejection machine”. All claims are passed through this system and an arbitrary 1/3 of all claims are rejected. If the claim is not resubmitted, they never have to pay the claim. If it is resubmitted, it goes back into “the rejection machine” and tries its luck again, and so on until the patient/doctor stop resubmitting or until it makes it through “the rejection machine” and will then be reviewed by an an actual human.
So literally, by design, their process is to reject 1/3 or vs all claims out of hand, regardless of their merit. That was what I was told about 15 years ago, and from the looks of this chart, the math still checks out.
I have no idea how they are able to so blatantly operate this way.
If only the US had enough money to create a universal public healthcare that insurance companies have to compete with….. Oh wait, the US already spends twice as much as the next country on the podium when it comes to taxes? And has no public service? Oh boy
Wtf, I never knew it’s this high. This is ridiculous, how is claim denial not regulated? People should be able to appeal to a government judge.