This is an example of multiple truths existing at the same time. 1) murder is wrong and 2) businesses profiting off of human suffering are equally abhorrent. Neither should be acceptable. But, corporations have continued to exploit people. And when peaceful revolution fails, violent revolution often follows. When you are the headpiece of that corporation you represent everything that the public hates.
Traditional-Leg-1574
3 months ago
So overcharging people for Health care isn’t evidence of a coarser society? 643k bankruptcies in US last year because of health care, compared to mostly zero world wide?
Also, what is the recourse of someone getting denied healthcare? Does a court work? Are their places to appeal?
ArgoDeezNauts
3 months ago
“but, muh DeCoRuM!”
OopsAllLobsterFights
3 months ago
Too bad! Maybe if they weren’t evil people nobody would be wishing for their death. Nobody is going to stop insurance companies from claiming lives and putting people in so much debt, and I hope every CEO is scared.
Everyone is so tired of this system.
Dark_Zer0
3 months ago
I would send thoughts and prayers… but they got denied.
Technical_Chemistry8
3 months ago
Murder is an awful answer to anything.
The people have tried every other available remedy to the sick corporate greed on display in every industry, including healthcare and have been laughed out of the room.
It doesn’t shock me that pitchforks are next.
opinionate_rooster
3 months ago
Oh, so it is only murder when a CEO is killed, not when your life-saving treatment is rejected. Got it.
unrecognizable2myslf
3 months ago
It seems that the deaths of thousands just doesn’t garner the attention that a single man (who’s arguably responsible for those deaths) does for some reason. Reminds me of the kerfuffle over hunter biden getting a pardon while simultaneously hiding evidence of gaetz’s feloneous activity is perfectly fine.
Pichupwnage
3 months ago
Actually its a justfiable and predictable emotional response for people tired of the industries legalized mass murder, theft and torture to dance on the grave of one of the most powerful figures responsible.
Note I am not condoning the murder itself (nor condeming it). Talking about the online reaction.
I am however condeming the useless pearl clutching on behalf of someone who was basically a insurance equivalent of a nazi general though. The ONLY solution is massive reform. Constant abuse, inequality and avoidable death always boil over eventually and to simply scold us instead of doing better is basically a taunt asking for copycats to emerge.
Its one if the biggest “Oh no! Anyways” in human history. I can see these fuckers if they lived in 1945.
“Oh but what about Hitler’s family! They must be so sad! Why are you so bloodthristy?”
mrb33fy88
3 months ago
Sometimes, violence is met with violence. Just look at human history. Denying people care/ money/ time off is a type of violence. What we saw a few days ago was retaliation for years of corporate violence.
GertonX
3 months ago
Nicholas Florko.
May you not get cancer and then have your life saving medications denied by a health care company. But in the off chance it does, I look forward to reading your follow up article:
“Now that it personally affects me, I’ve reconsidered my position.”
oldcreaker
3 months ago
So let me get this straight – healthcare CEO dies from the actions of a gunman and that’s a travesty – but thousands die every year from the actions of health insurance companies, and that’s good business. Did I get that right? Would the gunman’s actions be more acceptable if he had generated good returns for investors?
Livid-Woodpecker-849
3 months ago
No suprised a guy with name like Nick Florko likes the taste of boot
atx620
3 months ago
When I think about how many people healthcare companies have murdered, I think Nicholas Florko needs to sit this one the fuck out
Adventurous-Case6436
3 months ago
Cry about it!
Ok-Rich-580
3 months ago
It’s not murder, it’s self defense.
Clean_Usual434
3 months ago
lol, funny how they couldn’t be bothered to write any articles on all the lives lost from insurance company denials. Apparently, some lives aren’t with the concern. 😒
Traditional_Sky5260
3 months ago
No mention of the ‘coarsening’ of corporate responsibility to customers, never mind society. The deaths of millions mean nothing if they are necessary for shareholder value. Murder is wrong, but this is the result of a system where ordinary lives mean nothing and people have no power.
CowEvening2414
3 months ago
Indeed, murder is an awful answer for health care anger.
The right answer would be a change in policies and to hold the perpetrators of such crimes to justice.
Unfortunately, the people who make those policies, and the people who are supposed to enforce laws, are OWNED by the same people who are creating the problem, and so there is no democratic or lawful way for the millions of victims to get any kind of resolution.
The system is entirely broken.
As we’ve seen for the last 4 years, there is NO JUSTICE SYSTEM in the USA. If you’re poor you can be executed in the street for suspicion of committing a crime, if you’re rich and powerful you can try to overthrow the government in a violent coup and you’ll be re-elected.
No politician with any power has attempted to reform health care since Obama, despite it consistently being in the top ten of issues the American people face, despite it being cheaper to have Medicare for All, despite every other developed nation offering the same.
We know it works, we know it’s cheaper, we know it would save millions of American from a painful and needless death over the course of a decade. Politicians will still not do it because they’re busy sucking the dicks of donors.
When the people have no other recourse, when your country has become so unjust that there is no method to seek resolution, people will become violent.
Don’t take my word for it, TAKE HISTORY’S WORD FOR IT.
abridgedwell
3 months ago
Not one ounce of self awareness to consider that we’ve just made people that desperate and it doesn’t matter how outrageous the expression of anger is, the anger level dictates the expression and will not be altered until the instigating problem is abated. This is not a moral problem, it’s a desperation problem.
shadowkoishi93
3 months ago
My condolences are out of network.
TheHammer987
3 months ago
But…they agree it is *an answer*, right?
We tried the other ones.
Typical-Scallion-985
3 months ago
Killing CEOs is really good for the environment though.
Orpdapi
3 months ago
This is like the “carbon footprint” always putting the blame and responsibility on the little people and not the person who’s running the corporation that’s directly the cause of the suffering of those little people.
FoTweezy
3 months ago
Oh you mean the coarsening of society when the president is on television literally calling other politicians and world leaders names like a middle school child?
Kick rocks Nicholas Florko. We’re passed the point of no return now.
Available-Page-2738
3 months ago
Scootch a little closer children. This is the warning shot (no pun intended). It will spread from here. HR never got back to the applicants about that job? Surprise, HR drones, you won’t get door-to-door security escorts. People will find out who you are no matter how careful you are to scrub your details off the company website — not that the company will let you (keep smiling, keep smiling or we’ll give you something to cry about).
What’s that? Your boss laid you off because the company’s “going in a different direction”? Well, don’t worry former boss. All those former employees now know what to do about it.
Everyone’s in the Denial/Anger phase of this right now: “Oh, it’s just a fluke. How DARE someone get upset with us!” Everyone who’s been giving the middle finger to applicants and workers lo these many years better get to relearning basic manners.
Thick_Money786
3 months ago
Super rich dude who fucks over the plebs thinks it bad when plebs kill super rich dudes who fuck over plebs, my mind is blown
mspe1960
3 months ago
It is true that “online endorsement of the killing of a slain insurance CEO is evidence of a terrible coarsening of society”.
But lets take it one step further and understand the root cause of that “coarsening”.
Swimming_Tailor_7546
3 months ago
*we are being coarsened by living in a terrible society and reacting accordingly
FTFY
Specialist_Rabbit761
3 months ago
this was the first of many to come. ceos should learn from this and stop treating 99,9% of the society like actual shit
Tryn4SimpleLife
3 months ago
And exactly what is denying service for a dying person if not murder
baycenters
3 months ago
Health Caren’t
legion_2k
3 months ago
I blame the media. They were too bust dividing Americans to report on the real things that affect lots of Americans. The best disinfectant is sunshine and these guys have been operating in the dark for way too long.
senorkoki
3 months ago
Condescending and lacking insight to why ppl feel like this.
JuanchoPancho51
3 months ago
I’m perfectly fine with admitting that he deserved it. He put to death millions of people by denying coverage, I’d say he got what was coming.
“Let them eat cake”
Delay. Deny. Defend.
This is an example of multiple truths existing at the same time. 1) murder is wrong and 2) businesses profiting off of human suffering are equally abhorrent. Neither should be acceptable. But, corporations have continued to exploit people. And when peaceful revolution fails, violent revolution often follows. When you are the headpiece of that corporation you represent everything that the public hates.
So overcharging people for Health care isn’t evidence of a coarser society? 643k bankruptcies in US last year because of health care, compared to mostly zero world wide?
Also, what is the recourse of someone getting denied healthcare? Does a court work? Are their places to appeal?
“but, muh DeCoRuM!”
Too bad! Maybe if they weren’t evil people nobody would be wishing for their death. Nobody is going to stop insurance companies from claiming lives and putting people in so much debt, and I hope every CEO is scared.
Everyone is so tired of this system.
I would send thoughts and prayers… but they got denied.
Murder is an awful answer to anything.
The people have tried every other available remedy to the sick corporate greed on display in every industry, including healthcare and have been laughed out of the room.
It doesn’t shock me that pitchforks are next.
Oh, so it is only murder when a CEO is killed, not when your life-saving treatment is rejected. Got it.
It seems that the deaths of thousands just doesn’t garner the attention that a single man (who’s arguably responsible for those deaths) does for some reason. Reminds me of the kerfuffle over hunter biden getting a pardon while simultaneously hiding evidence of gaetz’s feloneous activity is perfectly fine.
Actually its a justfiable and predictable emotional response for people tired of the industries legalized mass murder, theft and torture to dance on the grave of one of the most powerful figures responsible.
Note I am not condoning the murder itself (nor condeming it). Talking about the online reaction.
I am however condeming the useless pearl clutching on behalf of someone who was basically a insurance equivalent of a nazi general though. The ONLY solution is massive reform. Constant abuse, inequality and avoidable death always boil over eventually and to simply scold us instead of doing better is basically a taunt asking for copycats to emerge.
Its one if the biggest “Oh no! Anyways” in human history. I can see these fuckers if they lived in 1945.
“Oh but what about Hitler’s family! They must be so sad! Why are you so bloodthristy?”
Sometimes, violence is met with violence. Just look at human history. Denying people care/ money/ time off is a type of violence. What we saw a few days ago was retaliation for years of corporate violence.
Nicholas Florko.
May you not get cancer and then have your life saving medications denied by a health care company. But in the off chance it does, I look forward to reading your follow up article:
“Now that it personally affects me, I’ve reconsidered my position.”
So let me get this straight – healthcare CEO dies from the actions of a gunman and that’s a travesty – but thousands die every year from the actions of health insurance companies, and that’s good business. Did I get that right? Would the gunman’s actions be more acceptable if he had generated good returns for investors?
No suprised a guy with name like Nick Florko likes the taste of boot
When I think about how many people healthcare companies have murdered, I think Nicholas Florko needs to sit this one the fuck out
Cry about it!
It’s not murder, it’s self defense.
lol, funny how they couldn’t be bothered to write any articles on all the lives lost from insurance company denials. Apparently, some lives aren’t with the concern. 😒
No mention of the ‘coarsening’ of corporate responsibility to customers, never mind society. The deaths of millions mean nothing if they are necessary for shareholder value. Murder is wrong, but this is the result of a system where ordinary lives mean nothing and people have no power.
Indeed, murder is an awful answer for health care anger.
The right answer would be a change in policies and to hold the perpetrators of such crimes to justice.
Unfortunately, the people who make those policies, and the people who are supposed to enforce laws, are OWNED by the same people who are creating the problem, and so there is no democratic or lawful way for the millions of victims to get any kind of resolution.
The system is entirely broken.
As we’ve seen for the last 4 years, there is NO JUSTICE SYSTEM in the USA. If you’re poor you can be executed in the street for suspicion of committing a crime, if you’re rich and powerful you can try to overthrow the government in a violent coup and you’ll be re-elected.
No politician with any power has attempted to reform health care since Obama, despite it consistently being in the top ten of issues the American people face, despite it being cheaper to have Medicare for All, despite every other developed nation offering the same.
We know it works, we know it’s cheaper, we know it would save millions of American from a painful and needless death over the course of a decade. Politicians will still not do it because they’re busy sucking the dicks of donors.
When the people have no other recourse, when your country has become so unjust that there is no method to seek resolution, people will become violent.
Don’t take my word for it, TAKE HISTORY’S WORD FOR IT.
Not one ounce of self awareness to consider that we’ve just made people that desperate and it doesn’t matter how outrageous the expression of anger is, the anger level dictates the expression and will not be altered until the instigating problem is abated. This is not a moral problem, it’s a desperation problem.
My condolences are out of network.
But…they agree it is *an answer*, right?
We tried the other ones.
Killing CEOs is really good for the environment though.
This is like the “carbon footprint” always putting the blame and responsibility on the little people and not the person who’s running the corporation that’s directly the cause of the suffering of those little people.
Oh you mean the coarsening of society when the president is on television literally calling other politicians and world leaders names like a middle school child?
Kick rocks Nicholas Florko. We’re passed the point of no return now.
Scootch a little closer children. This is the warning shot (no pun intended). It will spread from here. HR never got back to the applicants about that job? Surprise, HR drones, you won’t get door-to-door security escorts. People will find out who you are no matter how careful you are to scrub your details off the company website — not that the company will let you (keep smiling, keep smiling or we’ll give you something to cry about).
What’s that? Your boss laid you off because the company’s “going in a different direction”? Well, don’t worry former boss. All those former employees now know what to do about it.
Everyone’s in the Denial/Anger phase of this right now: “Oh, it’s just a fluke. How DARE someone get upset with us!” Everyone who’s been giving the middle finger to applicants and workers lo these many years better get to relearning basic manners.
Super rich dude who fucks over the plebs thinks it bad when plebs kill super rich dudes who fuck over plebs, my mind is blown
It is true that “online endorsement of the killing of a slain insurance CEO is evidence of a terrible coarsening of society”.
But lets take it one step further and understand the root cause of that “coarsening”.
*we are being coarsened by living in a terrible society and reacting accordingly
FTFY
this was the first of many to come. ceos should learn from this and stop treating 99,9% of the society like actual shit
And exactly what is denying service for a dying person if not murder
Health Caren’t
I blame the media. They were too bust dividing Americans to report on the real things that affect lots of Americans. The best disinfectant is sunshine and these guys have been operating in the dark for way too long.
Condescending and lacking insight to why ppl feel like this.
I’m perfectly fine with admitting that he deserved it. He put to death millions of people by denying coverage, I’d say he got what was coming.
Worse than killing people by denying healthcare?