The biggest problem I see here is lack of understanding of what is and isn’t part of the tax code
WizardMageCaster
2 months ago
A percentage of what? 1% of wealth compared to 1% of income? WTF is this nonsense?
Unhappy_Local_9502
2 months ago
Why do people that do not understand taxes keep posting this crap?
PD216ohio
2 months ago
This is all false.
I’m going to need some really legit sources to convince me otherwise.
I looked up the Bezos claim and this is the bullshit I found…. what a fucking shitshow of twisted logic:
*From 2006-2018, Jeff Bezos saw a wealth increase of $127 billion, according to Forbes, but he only reported a total income of $6.5 billion. He paid $1.4 billion in federal taxes on that amount, which, while still a massive number, accounts for only a 1.1% true tax rate. Even comparing Bezos’ $1.4 billion in taxes paid to the $6.5 billion he reported as his income, he still only paid taxes in the 21.5% bracket. One of the years Bezos paid $0 in federal income taxes, 2007, Amazon’s stock more than doubled, causing his wealth to jump $3.8 billion.*
What the fuck is a “true tax rate”? They are talking about taxation vs wealth, which is the dumbest fucking argument that keeps being regurgitated.
And no, he didn’t pay “in the 21.5% bracket”…. he paid an effective rate of 21.5%. BIG difference. My assumption is that most of his income was long term capital gains.
I paid an effective rate of 27% on 387k of earnings last year. None of my earnings were capital gains, though.
No_Mercy_4_Potatoes
2 months ago
Hey OP. You know how taxes work?
That was $5.3 billion in pre-tax income from Netflix in 2021. Not profit. Take the time to learn the difference. Then maybe you won’t embarrass yourself.
Bearloom
2 months ago
Obviously taxes on businesses – and subsequently, on long-term ownership of billions of dollars in company stock – have led to a serious wealth imbalance, but continuing to portray taxes as a percentage of net worth or total revenue is hugely disingenuous.
DJ_Wolfy
2 months ago
Let’s say you have 2M in your bank account and you made 400K the last year, and the tax is just 20% to make or simple.
You will play 80K in tax, not 400K. You pay tax on your net income, not all your money you have.
Responsible-Fox-9082
2 months ago
… People do know there’s a difference between income tax, corporate tax and capital gains tax right?
The nurse isn’t paying America’s top rate. However she is being paid for her hours worked. That is income tax.
Bezos however doesn’t get paid based on his work. His net worth rises with the value of his investments. He doesn’t have an income which is why his income tax would be effectively 1%. You can’t tax his investments until he withdraws the money which he won’t do. He’ll take a loan leveraging a percentage of his stocks and pay it back by trading stocks to find one at a loss that would allow him to label it a loss when he sells so the tax is less.
Then Netflix is a corporation. However corporations have their own ways to avoid taxes. The US government heavily reduces corporate taxes for job creation. Mostly due to if they make more jobs that’s more income tax. Hence Netflix going on hiring sprees to secure tax cuts.
RNKKNR
2 months ago
What’s sad is that the general public will believe it…
Potential-Break-4939
2 months ago
Another misleading take.
AllenKll
2 months ago
I do see the problem! mask and smock girl doesn’t know how to avoid taxes. She needs to educate herself.
LuckyConstruction546
2 months ago
Workers get taxed higher because what are they going to do – uproot their family and move country?
Capital is much easier to move, so it is not taxed as much to keep it from fleeing.
In the end it is all about power, people get taxed as much as they can take, the rich have less tolerance because they are mobile and so is their capital.
Trinity_Use6557
2 months ago
Defund the government…we should all pay 1%
seaxvereign
2 months ago
This is a completely foolish comparison all around.
The doctor’s top marginal rate is being compared to Bezos’s likely tax as a % of his overall wealth. Bezo’s top marginal rate was 37%, and based on what information I can gather his effective tax rate is about 23%…which only slightly below the average for the top earners (25%)…so this idea that Bezos is paying “less than the doctor” is ridiculous.
I’m assuming that the profit number of Netflix being used is their GAAP based profit amount, which is not the same thing as their taxable income. Their average GAAP operating income is about $5.8B, and their GAAP income tax expense is about $765M, so their average income tax expense is about 13% of operating income (Source: Netflix 2023 Annual Report). But, again, this is Book basis not the same as what is reported on the tax returns.
Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of income/loss from business entities is reported on individual income tax returns due to pass-through taxation. It’s very likely that Bezos’ income taxes are also reporting the income and loss from his pass-through business entities. How much of his income is because of this, I don’t know.
rantanplan401
2 months ago
problem is bezos smile is so darn attractive, he’ll charm his way out of everything, forever
Bobby_Sunday96
2 months ago
You see, the system wasn’t built for the poors
hukid23
2 months ago
I feel this is misleading…. Hide a lot of context and wrongly mixed the personal and business taxes
Bald-Eagle39
2 months ago
I love it. Businesses need to succeed
JTryg
2 months ago
The problem is that the US gov spends too much.
Jack-Burton-Says
2 months ago
Yes I see the problem. The problem is graphics like this resort to outright lies and distortion to get their point across.
For example, Netflix did not pay 1.1%. Google says they paid 12.85% which is low by corporate standards but utilizing deductions the tax code allows.
TurnDown4WattGaming
2 months ago
Jeff Bezos is essentially retired. He now spends money on a company 20 years behind in the Space Race Part Deux, the Redux, because he’s bored and has the money to. Netflix doesn’t pay taxes, their customers do; this is a concept liberals seem to grasp easily when Trump wants to raise tariffs but can’t seem to get around on when Trump isn’t involved.
I do think we should lower taxes on the person on the left. I suspect though that rather than give her a break, this was posted with the hope of encouraging more taxes on the other two and not dropping her rate at all.
Geocacher62
2 months ago
Well this totally makes sense. Comparing individual income taxes to capital gains taxes to corporate taxes. Why can’t you people understand this?!?!
Let’s take all the money away from successful people and businesses and give it to everyone else. That won’t stifle the incentive to take huge risks. Let’s try socialism again because it has worked so well in the past.
The logic is stupefying. #sarcasm
born_to_clump
2 months ago
On what fucking planet is the top tax rate 22%? Mine is closer to 40%.
SoftWerewolf5541
2 months ago
Where is this mythical top tax rate of 22%? I’d love to only pay 22%
Weary-Fix-3566
2 months ago
I don’t know if that first photo is supposed to be a doctor, but specialist physicians pay a top tax rate of 35-37%, not 22%.
bigbuffdaddy1850
2 months ago
shocking that this is once again a terrible post by an op who knows nothing about finance
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wait, I’m not done laughing at you for such a dumb post
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
🤣🤣🫵🫵🤡🤡🫵🫵🥴🥴🫵🫵
90GTS4
2 months ago
Imagine not even remotely understanding how taxes work.
MarcellusRavnos
2 months ago
Note: The income tax code spans more than **70,000 pages!**
I believe this is a major reason that discussions on how to tax (whoever) need to take a backseat to the streamlining and making the code understandable.
Empty_Description815
2 months ago
Change your vote to change the tax codes. The “evil billionaires” are just using the system as it is designed.
The biggest problem I see here is lack of understanding of what is and isn’t part of the tax code
A percentage of what? 1% of wealth compared to 1% of income? WTF is this nonsense?
Why do people that do not understand taxes keep posting this crap?
This is all false.
I’m going to need some really legit sources to convince me otherwise.
I looked up the Bezos claim and this is the bullshit I found…. what a fucking shitshow of twisted logic:
*From 2006-2018, Jeff Bezos saw a wealth increase of $127 billion, according to Forbes, but he only reported a total income of $6.5 billion. He paid $1.4 billion in federal taxes on that amount, which, while still a massive number, accounts for only a 1.1% true tax rate. Even comparing Bezos’ $1.4 billion in taxes paid to the $6.5 billion he reported as his income, he still only paid taxes in the 21.5% bracket. One of the years Bezos paid $0 in federal income taxes, 2007, Amazon’s stock more than doubled, causing his wealth to jump $3.8 billion.*
What the fuck is a “true tax rate”? They are talking about taxation vs wealth, which is the dumbest fucking argument that keeps being regurgitated.
And no, he didn’t pay “in the 21.5% bracket”…. he paid an effective rate of 21.5%. BIG difference. My assumption is that most of his income was long term capital gains.
I paid an effective rate of 27% on 387k of earnings last year. None of my earnings were capital gains, though.
Hey OP. You know how taxes work?
That was $5.3 billion in pre-tax income from Netflix in 2021. Not profit. Take the time to learn the difference. Then maybe you won’t embarrass yourself.
Obviously taxes on businesses – and subsequently, on long-term ownership of billions of dollars in company stock – have led to a serious wealth imbalance, but continuing to portray taxes as a percentage of net worth or total revenue is hugely disingenuous.
Let’s say you have 2M in your bank account and you made 400K the last year, and the tax is just 20% to make or simple.
You will play 80K in tax, not 400K. You pay tax on your net income, not all your money you have.
… People do know there’s a difference between income tax, corporate tax and capital gains tax right?
The nurse isn’t paying America’s top rate. However she is being paid for her hours worked. That is income tax.
Bezos however doesn’t get paid based on his work. His net worth rises with the value of his investments. He doesn’t have an income which is why his income tax would be effectively 1%. You can’t tax his investments until he withdraws the money which he won’t do. He’ll take a loan leveraging a percentage of his stocks and pay it back by trading stocks to find one at a loss that would allow him to label it a loss when he sells so the tax is less.
Then Netflix is a corporation. However corporations have their own ways to avoid taxes. The US government heavily reduces corporate taxes for job creation. Mostly due to if they make more jobs that’s more income tax. Hence Netflix going on hiring sprees to secure tax cuts.
What’s sad is that the general public will believe it…
Another misleading take.
I do see the problem! mask and smock girl doesn’t know how to avoid taxes. She needs to educate herself.
Workers get taxed higher because what are they going to do – uproot their family and move country?
Capital is much easier to move, so it is not taxed as much to keep it from fleeing.
In the end it is all about power, people get taxed as much as they can take, the rich have less tolerance because they are mobile and so is their capital.
Defund the government…we should all pay 1%
This is a completely foolish comparison all around.
The doctor’s top marginal rate is being compared to Bezos’s likely tax as a % of his overall wealth. Bezo’s top marginal rate was 37%, and based on what information I can gather his effective tax rate is about 23%…which only slightly below the average for the top earners (25%)…so this idea that Bezos is paying “less than the doctor” is ridiculous.
I’m assuming that the profit number of Netflix being used is their GAAP based profit amount, which is not the same thing as their taxable income. Their average GAAP operating income is about $5.8B, and their GAAP income tax expense is about $765M, so their average income tax expense is about 13% of operating income (Source: Netflix 2023 Annual Report). But, again, this is Book basis not the same as what is reported on the tax returns.
Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of income/loss from business entities is reported on individual income tax returns due to pass-through taxation. It’s very likely that Bezos’ income taxes are also reporting the income and loss from his pass-through business entities. How much of his income is because of this, I don’t know.
problem is bezos smile is so darn attractive, he’ll charm his way out of everything, forever
You see, the system wasn’t built for the poors
I feel this is misleading…. Hide a lot of context and wrongly mixed the personal and business taxes
I love it. Businesses need to succeed
The problem is that the US gov spends too much.
Yes I see the problem. The problem is graphics like this resort to outright lies and distortion to get their point across.
For example, Netflix did not pay 1.1%. Google says they paid 12.85% which is low by corporate standards but utilizing deductions the tax code allows.
Jeff Bezos is essentially retired. He now spends money on a company 20 years behind in the Space Race Part Deux, the Redux, because he’s bored and has the money to. Netflix doesn’t pay taxes, their customers do; this is a concept liberals seem to grasp easily when Trump wants to raise tariffs but can’t seem to get around on when Trump isn’t involved.
I do think we should lower taxes on the person on the left. I suspect though that rather than give her a break, this was posted with the hope of encouraging more taxes on the other two and not dropping her rate at all.
Well this totally makes sense. Comparing individual income taxes to capital gains taxes to corporate taxes. Why can’t you people understand this?!?!
Let’s take all the money away from successful people and businesses and give it to everyone else. That won’t stifle the incentive to take huge risks. Let’s try socialism again because it has worked so well in the past.
The logic is stupefying. #sarcasm
On what fucking planet is the top tax rate 22%? Mine is closer to 40%.
Where is this mythical top tax rate of 22%? I’d love to only pay 22%
I don’t know if that first photo is supposed to be a doctor, but specialist physicians pay a top tax rate of 35-37%, not 22%.
shocking that this is once again a terrible post by an op who knows nothing about finance
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wait, I’m not done laughing at you for such a dumb post
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
🤣🤣🫵🫵🤡🤡🫵🫵🥴🥴🫵🫵
Imagine not even remotely understanding how taxes work.
Note: The income tax code spans more than **70,000 pages!**
I believe this is a major reason that discussions on how to tax (whoever) need to take a backseat to the streamlining and making the code understandable.
Change your vote to change the tax codes. The “evil billionaires” are just using the system as it is designed.