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NC just passed an anti-mask bill where they conveniently forgot about those who are immunocompromised but managed to remember to make an exception for religious and ritualistic reasons. I feel like this same sentiment applies.
Also, this isn’t anything new. If you’ll read Just Mercy (Bryan Stevenson) he makes that abundantly clear.
ETA: in case it’s not really clear, the reason why the same sentiment applies is because the wording allows for the KKK to still wear masks. I love the South.
He’s been charged with terrorism as an enhancement to murder at the state level. The same as the Buffalo grocery store shooter was.
theyre medieval nobility in a modern suit and tie, thats why killing one of them is oh so terrible while killing thousands of us is business as usual
Just keep walking headlong into fascism, like nobody paid attention in history class or something. It’s simultaneously depressing and infuriating.
Why he was charged [with terrorism](https://apnews.com/article/unitedhealthcare-ceo-killing-luigi-mangione-terrorism-law-7fcb28dcc0106c980b6ecf4aa9cf682f#)
If a random person was shot, and there was a manifesto and bullet casings suggesting that there would be additional attacks, that would also be terrorism under this law.
Are they federal or state charges there is a distinction.
>supports the act since it will strike terror to ceos
>cries that it’s not terrorism
??
bullet casings with a clear message, manifesto supporting the same message
essentially the same as other terror attacks carried out by officially declared terrorists, just with a singular victim instead of the more commonly known mass shootings
I mean, technically speaking, the use of violence to achieve political ends *is* terrorism.
This is dishonest. Terrorism is defined, at least in the US, as a violent act intended to coerce or intimidate a civilian population or government. Luigi(allegedly) killed a billionaire to intimidate other billionaires. He’s a terrorist. There isn’t a threshold of damage caused pr people killed that causes something to be defined as terrorism.
I’m not mad that a health insurance CEO bit the dust.
Yet, I think terrorism could fit here. If the intent was to scare health insurance companies into changing their policies, even if those changes would be good, that still sounds like terrorism to me.
Jan. 6 rioters should also be charged with terrorism, IMO. They used violence and threats of violence to try to scare lawmakers into making Trump president.
I also think a lot of mass shooters fall into this category.
Heyyyy it used to be my job to study and educate the public about terrorism, and Luigi’s actions (which I support) do qualify. They just do. The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is perspective, and there are examples of that throughout history. A civilian committed a public act of violence for a political/societal goal. Just because a lot of people agree with his goal (or his means) doesn’t mean it’s not terrorism.
There are MANY right wing murderers and shitheads who should also have been charged with terrorism, and it’s a legitimate part of the conversation to point that out. The woman arrested for saying words that her healthcare provider didn’t like should absolutely not have been arrested, and that was politically motivated and disgusting. But people need to stop pretending this is not an applicable charge. The methods were intentionally theatrical (deny/defend/depose) to shock the public and stir emotions, and the manifesto is clear that the goal is to create fear in order to spur change in a system that the perpetrator finds unjust. It’s okay to look at this clearly and call it what it is.
Zephen Xaver is not a terrorist, even though he made threats to multiple women who reported him to the police. He went on to shoot 5 women in a mass shooting at a bank. Still not a terrorist.
Under the legal definition of terrorism in NY, that being “violent act with the purpose of swaying public opinion or policy” it explicitly *was* a terrorist act.
Now, that’s not to say it wasn’t *based,* but sometimes terrorism can be based.
Terrorism?!? This makes absolutely no sense at all!! (I have no idea what the definition of terrorism is and I am choosing to not learn it because it may challenge my belief)
I don’t necessarily disagree with the terrorism charge, since an act of violence motivated by political views specifically to create fear is kind of by definition terrorism. That being said, the fact that barely anyone ever gets charged with it and it’s clearly just being done to deter potential copycats is heinous and should be criticized.
Terrorism is when you attempt to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government body
He, like, 100% did that
So under New York State law he’s a terrorist. Simple as? Can you give an example of a New York State terrorist who wasn’t charged as a terrorist?
Wtf was Jan 6? Fuck this place is so wack it’s hard to cope
God bless the USA 🛐 I’ve been saying that a lot lately. Every time I see some dumb shit.
The reason people get charged with terrorism for threatening billionaires is that each dollar one of them has is equal to a person
I get it but none of those people are doing this in new York where he caught state level terrorism charges. The fbi is a federal agency who is unsurprisingly not allowed to levy federal terrorism charges against these people
I know this isn’t hon a mean much to Reddit, but what the US government can do to a terrorist legally should be illegal full stop, fuck political affiliation, it’s inhumane. you are basically free to be tortured in a black site for a charge like that
I really am surprised everyone pinned the blame Luigi so fast. I know it’s nice to have a face to associate with but he looks nothing like the guy in the video.
He feels too convenient. For 5 days the NYPD had no leads except a bag of monopoly money it took them 3 days to find, and then suddenly they have this guy who was apparently just walking around in the same outfit with a(n unreleased) manifesto in his pocket and a gun in his other.
Even if he wasn’t visibly a different guy from the one in the video (you can’t do that to your eyebrows in 5 days that would require plastic surgery which you’d have to heal from) it just seems way too suddenly incompetent compared to before.
The NYPD has a history of planting and faking evidence, and has a lot of eyes on them right now. They have every reason to grab an innocent man and pretend he’s the shooter. It masks their incompetence and discourages copycats.
Or maybe I’m just being conspiratorial.
I couldn’t be more supportive of cleaning up as many healthcare CEOs as possible, but look up how New York State defines terrorism from a legal standpoint. It makes perfect sense that he was charged with that. Their definition is something along the lines of “using nonlegal means and violence to instigate social or political change”, and like, yeah. Exactly.
Have any of you people actually done the half-hour of research it would take to understand this more completely? How New York State has used the terrorism statute? How it’s been applied, or not been applied, in the past? Various rulings on the statute? The distinction between state and federal law? All of this shit is publicly available information.
Try doing some research to actually understand the situation before getting angry. You are not immune to propaganda.
The KKK are a domestic terrorist group based on the rebellion of 1860 made for the explicit purpose of intimidation and interference with normal democratic processes. They had to be destroyed by the US Army. Somehow they are allowed to keep existing as an organization.
What he did was terrorism, like it fits the definition of terrorism perfectly. That doesn’t automatically mean he was wrong. Terrorism is an ugly word, has been since 9/11, but in this case I think we can all agree this act of terrorism was justified
I mean he did scare the ever-loving fuck out of billionaires and CEOs everywhere, so he does fit the definition of terror in terrorist.