75% of these opinions aren’t even unpopular lmao you can even say they’re cold takes.
jinnx3d
2 months ago
I would’ve been fine with Sevika’s less than desired screen time had they not hyped up her conclusion in act 3.
Interesting_Move_919
2 months ago
I wish we got to see more of Pitfighter Vi’s arc. It would have been interesting to see her overcome her problems like feeling no sense of purpose since she no longer has anyone to protect, her spiraling into alcoholism and getting into fights just to ease the pain in her heart. I wanted to see how she’ll get back up from this devastating blow that life gave her. I want to see her grow as a character. But in the end we only got 3 minutes of screen time and then that whole arc is gone lol. I like what we got in Act 2 but I really wish we got to explore that route more
Richmelony
2 months ago
I’m sad they steered away from the Zaun vs Piltover conflict. Granted, it would have probably lead to similar things if we had seen Jinx wage war against Piltover, but it was so central to the first season… Then again, I love when the message of artistic content is basically “forgive and unite, instead of fighting and hating”.
Vanillacherricola
2 months ago
Cait’s comment to Vi about becoming an enforcer were absolutely foul.
Vi tries to explain the trauma of becoming an enforcer- a group that literally *killed her parents.* and Cait brushes her off repeatedly. Vi tells her she doesn’t understand and Cait says “yes I do, I do know what it’s like-“ umm. No you dont?? And then Cait scoffs and says “I thought you were on our side.” Sorry Cait did you forget the *years* Vi spent in prison getting regularly beat by enforcers?
She basically ignores everything Vi says and then hits her with “I thought you were one of the good ones.”
PleasantExperience38
2 months ago
Arcane what happened to the Firelights
Atomo93
2 months ago
Black rose and the medarda family thing is plain and undeveloped, goes too fast, appears too little that turns meaningless for spectator and just a bunch of colors and light each moment
During season 1 never was even subtly mentioned that Mel has magic powers, she never has training or knowledge about it but then with a saylor moon sequence she knows how to use it, later even attack other witch, is like c’mon
Regular-Age1224
2 months ago
I’ve seen people say Jinx was a better sister to Isha than Vi was to Powder. Yes, their relationship was good but she was not even close to being as good as Vi. Enabling Isha to do whatever she wants is not good, that’s the worst thing you can do to a child. (I’m not saying punishing or screaming at the children is good). Isha put herself in danger everytime, not once Jinx talked to her to not do it. As soon as I saw she tagging along Jinx to find WW I knew she was a goner. Part of parenting is correcting the children and making them understand why, what they did was wrong or dangerous. Isha and Jinx were sisters but Vi was a sister and a parent to Powder.
luka__22
2 months ago
Heimerdinger was right all the time, if everyone listens to him instead of banning, a lot of things will be different
caprix97
2 months ago
Jinx didn’t need a redemption arc. Her arc could’ve led her to become more stable, grow as a person, and maybe even have Isha to take care of. But keeping her as a villain, without everyone forgiving her, would’ve been much more interesting.
Bobbie_Lee
2 months ago
Steb is my favorite character in the whole damn show
perfectlyBurning
2 months ago
This is kind of long and I dont know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I didnt care for the constant killing of everyone jinx loves for the sake of her character development. It became an insanely boring and kind of predictable “twist”, to me, especially in season 2. I get the sentiment of trying to establish why she believes everyone who she gets close to dies, but at what point does that become just slightly cliche?
Her parents die, then Vander dies, then Mylo and Claggor die, then Vi leaves her, then Vi comes back just to “leave” again, then She accidentally kills Silco, then season 2 happens which leads to her meeting Isha and Warwick coming back and right when Jinx is finally at her best we’ve seen in awhile, both of them die within literal seconds/minutes of each other! I get that they need to have a good understandable reason for Jinx to have gotten caught by the enforcers, but do you see how all these things, while tragic and in my opinion decently/well written, happening consistently back to back can become almost expected and loose a bit of its shock value?
It also becomes frustrating when these characters don’t get enough time to really breathe as characters by themself. Lets take Isha for example, nearly every important scene Jinx and Isha should’ve had on screen like them bonding, growing closer, etc. happens off screen or in a very quick montage during that one song that I cant remember the name of right now! So for the viewers it just looks like Isha falls into Jinxs lap, follows her, scene cuts, Isha shows back up during Sevikas fight, Scene cuts, and next thing you know they’re super uber close enough for Jinx to bring a literal child to watch a deadly battle with her sister. It’s hard for me to actually get a grasp of how much time has truly passed for these two to get that close and imagination only can get you so far and will never truly be confirmed.
Scar the Piccolo of Arcane. He pulls up looking cool as hell but gets folded by Jinx in s1e04 and Vi in s1e06. Just a punching bag😭
Racetr
2 months ago
“we don’t judge” and put an image of Marcus, who’s entire personality was that he was a judgemental asshole. Nice one!
Prepare yourself to hate me:
– Episode 7 ruined the pacing and destroyed any chance at a coherent end of the story. That being said, it is also a fantastic episode of television.
– Viktor’s motivation and actions as a villain is stupid as shit, and cheapen his entire arc. I find that he is all like “I know better” only for him to agree he definitely doesn’t know any better hilarious.
DonBearserker
2 months ago
The whole Vander/Warwick plot was unnecessary and badly handled.
There , i said it.
Right_Fail8585
2 months ago
Vi’s character became flatter as the season went on. It felt like at any point in time, she was just Jinx’s sister or Caitlyn’s girlfriend, never her own character.
Isha getting plot deviced sucks and kinda ruins the whole point of why Jinx was a Jinx (reducing it to some sort of actual curse instead of a commentary on the environment around her)
Hermiweiner had the most complete arc in the show
The whole Noxus storyline kinda just felt like an extended promo for the next show, which sucks because if it was taken out, we would’ve had a lot more time to focus on the characters that we know and love
MlookSM
2 months ago
I’m not a fan of alternative timelines. I’m so tired of stories including this cliché.
cs_zoltan
2 months ago
They 100% screwed up with Vi in season 2. And the amount of people here who to try to gaslight disappointed Vi fans that this is somehow peak writing is upsetting, and approaching toxic positivity.
KnightofNi92
2 months ago
I actually like Vi’s whole “dirt beneath your fingernails” line but every time I hear it I think to myself, “I know Vi’s a bit of a messy slob but she has to know you *are* supposed to clean beneath your fingernails, right?”
AMagicalPotato
2 months ago
Vi was so boring in season 2. Far better in 1.
CarmelPoptart
2 months ago
I feel like they did Ekko dirty in the show.
You’re meaning to tell me a twice orphaned boy who had to grow up in drug riddled, gang run, shit stained city had became sugar, spice and everything nice with ZERO mistakes? Without any other positive adult figure and role model around him, after Benzo gone?
Let the homeboy make some mistakes ffs, let him and people around him suffer for them, let him learn from his mistakes and improve and grow from them. Every other character were allowed to make mistakes and grow from them, be it Vi, Jinx, Cait, Viktor, Jayce, Mel, Ambessa, hell even Silco. But not Ekko, he had to be the perfect, live, laugh, love, all good in the hood, protecting the hoods lifestyle and identity generic black teenage boy. Which made him boring honestly.
And then, they doubled down, created an entire fan service episode where his character has even more reduced into the lovestruck boy savior, he completely forgot about anything else other than Powder/Jinx.
They did Ekko dirty.
Sunlight_stardust
2 months ago
I wish we got a little more closure at the end.
Ngl I’d be pissed with having to clean up all those damn left over robot things. Like is there just a giant pile of them thrown somewhere? What are they made of? Flesh, bone, metal? Also! Why did they become zombie-like when Jayce was in the AU?
Malorie__Pearton
2 months ago
I feel like Mel’s character didn’t stand out much in Season 2.
Don’t get me wrong — Mel’s my favorite Arcane character. But I still don’t fully get the significance of her journey. The whole thing with being trapped in the cave, becoming a mage, fighting Mamadarda, and then saving Mamadarda from the Black Rose—like, it all feels very “chosen one” to me.
In season 1, she used to be the one manipulating everything, pulling all the strings, but in Season 2, it’s like she’s just reacting to the situation and letting herself be manipulated. Except that part in the end when she fooled(?) the black rose from getting red juice from Mamadarda’s head.
I *loved* the “Blood, Sweat, and Tears” MV, though — Loved it to bits. I was encouraged to go to the gym and run the extra mile because of that song. I feel like it adds depth and explains what Season 2 didn’t quite manage to.
Gosh, that song had some OOMPH, some soul and pain and power.
That MV awakened such a fierce, protective instinct in me—it made me cry out of protective rage, like full-on mama-bear rage(in this case, wolf-rage i guess), ready to defend the people I love, no matter what.
Would love to know about your thoughts on this one, please. <3
InkPixelZ
2 months ago
I wish S1 had a character that they built up to take Maddie’s role in S2. Make it feel like an actual betrayal you know
Echoes_Act__3
2 months ago
The ending made 0 sense and Victor should not have been the big bad.
Raaabbit_v2
2 months ago
The writers had so much character plots to juggle by the end of S2 that they couldn’t write a LOT of the main struggle/plot that was brought up in S1 and S2.
Why would Zaunites go to Piltover’s help? Huh? They were martial law-ed but yet helped those that martial lawed them? Nah. Not enough time or writing to go around. A lot of things were just not present for THE MOST satisfying ending.
UncoBeefWang
2 months ago
Agree with the Marcus opinion. Now, a few of my own:
The writers took a lot of shortcuts in the second season, and it shows.
Maddie was handled lazily – we had the potential to see the complications in relationship, but oh no, she had to be a spy, and thus, made it incredibly convenient for people to hate her. With Marcus, they made it clear that he was not to be liked. With Maddie, they wanted to make her likeable, then didn’t know what to do with her.
The show went from one about Piltover and Zaun to a show set in Piltover and Zaun – we lost all of the political intrigue, which is why I hate the eighth episode. The two nations were far too willing to team up, in spite of everything. The PnZ war should have been set at the end of the continuity they are currently trying to set up.
I loved what they did with Isha when she was alive in the moment, but she became an afterthought in the third act, and it kind of makes her feel gimmicky.
Ambessa talking about sacrifice once is simply insufficient to justify the loss of Caitlyn’s eye, if that is the path the writers take her in. Moreover, we see bits and pieces of Caitlyn sacrificing things throughout the series, making this even more redundant, and this would be a bridge to far. Physically, the injury makes zero sense – if you rewatch it, Caitlyn moves her face enough for the blade to move completely past the side of her face, yet there is blood despite it not even touching her eye. The lack of physical sense that the injury makes has gotten to the point where fan artists have to add extra scars from absolutely nowhere in order to justify it.
It honestly feels like the writers did not want to write Caitlyn actually addressing her actions against Zaun, so they tacked on a physical injury (which, as stated above, makes no sense) and I don’t think those two wrongs make a right. This would also kill Caitlyn’s career as a sheriff well before it began – one eyed field agents are either augmented in other ways or possess incredible skills. Also, we clearly see that PnZ has the technology and medicine available to completely heal these wounds, so which further renders this as a permanent injury as asinine.
A similar criticism goes to Vander – he does not look anything like a werewolf or his in game model, and him completely losing his memories makes little sense, as in game Warwick clearly still remembers his children. I also think that we saw far too little of a lucid Vander, and him going feral would have been a lot more impactful had we seen him interact with the sisters. However, this could change and he regains his memories in a future series.
The Dynasties and Dystopia scene was short and conveyed so much in such a small amount of time. Nothing really happens in the Guns for Hire scene, but it is my favorite scene in all of Arcane. That being said, the creative team also spent far too much time on musical scenes in the second season, without anywhere near the same impact as in the first.
Vi’s character writing worked in the first season because we could contrast her stagnancy with the changing world around her, but this just doesn’t work in the second season.
Onto slightly greener pastures, I admit that I liked most of Viktor’s arc. The premise was similar: get rid of human imperfections. They addressed this in completely different ways, though. Had this been an original character, it would have been grear, but since it contradicts League lore, there is more controversy, and it is easy to see why.
For now, though, Arcane as canon makes zero sense, and trying to make such drastic retcons defeats the purpose of trying to pass the show as an origin of sorts.
Depressedidiotlol
2 months ago
Season 2 was honestly average
Least-Site2122
2 months ago
I just know jayce and viktor are alive somewhere. That ending sent them elsewhere
Apprehensive-Fail663
2 months ago
I don’t find Ekko that interesting. He didn’t get a lot of screen time that really warranted him to be the savior in the S2 finale. If he appeared more, I probably would’ve liked him more. I feel the same way with Hiemerdinger. He’s cute and fun, but was bland compared to other characters.
There was too much music in S2. They ranged from okay to great, though I think S1’s music quality is better. Also, most of the episodes starting with music got really old.
millana32
2 months ago
1. Ekko is too much like Mary Sue, I simply cant buy and enjoy this character
2. Some fight scenes were too long and I hate Smeech Sevika fight. Generally whole Smeech plotline could be removed and screen time used better.
3. Ending with Vander/Warwick coming back and dying like 4th time was cheap and unnecessary. Jinx could sacrifice herself in some other way, without creators using him again.
Saying this I still rated this season 9/10 and absolutely love it.
I tried using some actually unpopular or not talked about points. It seems like 80% of comments here arent really unpopular
Miserable_Ad_5779
2 months ago
Edit: okay, since my initial statement wasn’t unpopular/controversial enough –
Season 2 was BAD
Poor writing that is all over the place,
Entire arcs given nothing more than a Epic Music Video Montage (except the jayce/ekko AU montage, that was fire and really well done,)
A complete disregard for a lot of things that went down and got set up during season 1(shimmer in its entirety basically doesn’t matter at all)
An obvious plot device child made to die and make the viewers feel bad because oh no the baby
A bad rushed non-ending
Sidelining the previous main characters (vi and jinx) for rushed snippets of each character doing a thing with no actual introspection into ANY of the characters. Caitlyn has an entire dictator arc and we see just about nothing for it, and we get like 3 lines of introspection on how she feels about it. Girl you were a fascist
And the climax of the entire show is a bad disability plot. “Wow jayce… I see now being disabled is okay… Maybe life is okay…” What kind of steven universe writing is that?
The black rose plot sticks out like a sore thumb, and the entire noxus situation 1. Feels out of place 2. Serves nothing but to unite the under/upper city even though we spend like the entirety of season one establishing the class disparity and differences.
Season 2 had breathtaking visuals, a decent instrument score, but very poor writing that had no direction. I don’t blame the writers, I definitely feel like there mightve been corporate overreach to crunch and change things, but the writing doesn’t hold a candle to the emotional masterpiece that season 1 was
Magistricide
2 months ago
I hate how they portrayed the resolution between upper class piltover and zaun here.
“Hey I know we allowed police brutality to be rampant, completely ignored the drug barons, pretty much never tried any social services, dump all of our garbage on your homes and literally fucking gas your civilians, but we made a world ending experiment and now we need you to die fighting our enemies.
But also you have to be the bigger man and just accept we did all of that and let us get away with zero consequences and in return we’ll stop beating you… maybe.”
And then the people in Zaun just… agreed?
drazerius
2 months ago
We needed another season to fully flesh out all stories without feeling rushed. Season 2 should have ended with Isha’s sacrifice.
ArnoTurin
2 months ago
I liked Jinx’s direction in the second season, but I would have preferred her character to become more and more evil until she became the main villain.
I’ve already seen a million redemption arcs, I want an arc of corruption with no return.
Odd_Surround_6694
2 months ago
Hear me out Maddie is kinda hot
strandskjer
2 months ago
CaitVi was ruined for me in season 2. I liked their relationship dynamic up until their reconciliation in episode 7. After that they lost their deep and caring connection and it became shallow where lots of things were unspoken. I also feel like VI’s trauma needed to be explored and the fact that they didn’t made Cait seem like she was taking advantage of her in a way. I mean Cait hits Vi after knowing her backstory in Stillwater, that’s not a normal reaction. Hitting the people you supposedly love is serious and in Arcane they just brushed it off.
At the time, Vi was so desperate for someone that she’d settle for anyone, she loves hard and Cait took advantage of that. Vi literally had no one but Cait who never even apologized. You NEED to verbally apologize and explain if you hit your partner, I’m sorry but that’s just how it is. They could’ve had just ONE scene where they actually talked about what happened, but literally all Cait had to say is “I KNOW”.
I really loved Jayce and Viktor’s ending a lot more than CaitVi because it actually showed true connection and true love, not just convenient love.
and don’t even get me started on how this translates to real life statistics on lesbian domestic abuse. I’m queer myself and this topic was treated in an insensitive way with CaitVi.
*I’ll probably get downvoted for this even though it’s a safe space, but oh well
Careless_Reply2862
2 months ago
Jinx redemption was rushed after all the horrible things she done how am i supposed to feel like sympathy for her though there are cases when characters have done just as much as jinx but their redemption feels earned
Isha was just there so that jinx redemption could be a bit more believable
Laura_aura
2 months ago
The amount of people excusing Mel’s actions at the start of season 1 and going as far to say she wasn’t manipulative towards Jayce or literally everyone around her minus Elora or well she’s a politician that’s her job just baffle me . Even the writers seem to excuse her actions since when Jayce finally calls her out , she doesn’t even apologize or feel remorse for her earlier actions and then in the next scene Jayce apologizes which is wtf
I get Mel grew and later probably developed real feelings for Jayce and is complex and yada yada but that doesn’t erase the fact that she was part of the oppressive council of Piltover that led Zaun to be that bad, that she is essentially the (one of) richest person in Piltover with so much influence and power and she could have done something to make a change , at least speak up about Zaun and that they are also people or need help once in a blue moon, anything, and not accumulate more money or not take part in the council when she already has enough money ffs. She only starts caring about Zaun literally around the time they start causing problems and become a threat and when Jayce brings it up, NEVER before cuz they aren’t a threat up her ass to her status. Or her pretaking in corruption and shady deals (she was teaching Jayce so she presumably also takes part in corruption ) which i mean you can choose not to do it, like Heimerdinger (who is just oblivious probably but still doesn’t consciously enable corruption )
Mel to me seems like those extremely beautiful celebrities or CEOs that are super rich , have shady businesses going on, hundreds if not thousands of people suffer due to their actions (or inactions especially because she chose to take part in politics and not idk merchant guild or some other non government business ) but people totally overlook or forget that because oh this person is attractive (aka fuckable) and they have a cool girlboss personality…
I am actually glad i read somewhere on instagram that if Mel and Jayce’s genders were reversed more people would be appaled by her bullshit at the start . Because a manipulative slightly older male in a position of financial and social power over two scientist females like Jayce/Viktor that has sex with one of them would be more shocking and controversial .
I could give more examples of how her behavior at the start is totally appalling (small things like her supposedly caring so much about Jayce and knowing him for years , but she has 0 idea about his personal relationships past Heimerdinger like when Jayce tells her Viktor is super close to him she says she didn’t know or in the forge Jayce says “no signs of Caitlyn either” Caitlyn his only other major friend, a girl he has known for years, basically Jayce’s little non blood related sister , his (bond) SISTER ffs and Mel just replies “the kiramman girl?” Indicating that she has no idea why Jayce would call her by first name or that they are close, nor with Viktor, because she is so used to using people she probs can’t comprehend Jayce isn’t just using Viktor for his knowledge or using the Kirammans for their funding (like how she would) ….but she supposedly knows him for years , which shows she initially only cared about superficial stuff and how much profit he was making for her, not his actual deep relationships or anything else)
Anyway back to the main beef since Mel isn’t shown directly harming anyone like Cait, Vi , Jinx, Jayce , Silco , Sevika , Singed, who directly harm people or talk about harming people, everyone overlook Mel’s involvement with piltovers oppression, even in the show (same with Heimerdinger but at least he tries to go to Zaun and then goes to Ekko to help who lives in Zaun so dude makes some in person attempt even tough i could go on about how Heimerdinger is also older and even worse since he let everything get worse but anyway) . Same in real life people will be appalled at someone directly punching or harming or murdering another person and calling them awful , but won’t be mad at ultra rich people or politicians who indirectly ruin the lives of hundreds, thousands and millions, because they haven’t directly seen them harm children or other people.
_nitroglycerin_
2 months ago
Idk if I sound fucking stupid but how did Vi and Cait just instantly reconnect though Cait literally hit her with her rifle? Like straight up parallel to Vi and Powder in s1 and it was YEARS until they reunited (long enough to where reuniting again was most important) and after a couple months they never even had them like, discuss it? Have Vi show some sort of disdain/hurt from that?
Because from the framing, the parallels, I felt that Vi experienced the same betrayal/pain as Powder did when Vi hit Powder in s1. That was one of the biggest scenes that had me like “wow. This is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.” Because of how emotional and *raw* it was to me. So to see it happen AGAIN and then just be brushed off, to not alter the dynamic even a *smidge* just threw me off. Like at least talk it out ???
Competitive-Cover101
2 months ago
1. i didn’t like how they handled sisters dynamic this season
2. isha is cute but i couldn’t feel anything when she died because it was crystal clear from the first moment we saw her
3. i can’t help but feel sad when i think vi’s potential and development in S1 turns into her following cait and did not really a significant role in S2
4. jinx was NOT a better sister than vi
5. it annoys me when people make jinx and ishas relationship maternal, they clearly had a sister dynamic
6. it annoys me when people say jinx is incapable of love because she has mental ilness
7. ep7 was very much of a fanservice, and as a fan i was serviced thank you very much
8. that final line was so ass
TheUnderRedditor
2 months ago
I like season 2 better than 1. I said this on a previous post asking the same thing but it’s the only one I really got.
ReallyRhea
2 months ago
I was not a fan of the soundtrack. While I do think most of the songs are good, the music really just pulled me out of the show.
ArnoTurin
2 months ago
Mylo was right about Powder, she wasn’t ready to join the missions, if Vi hadn’t insisted on including her all the time (besides never training her to improve her skills), she wouldn’t have felt the need to prove herself, she wouldn’t have intervened in Vander’s rescue, the explosion would never have happened and the gang would have managed to save Vander, escape from the factory and avoid the entire disaster that followed.
That’s the truth, and Jinx knows it, that’s why he’s the one she sees the most in her hallucinations.

UnFuqwittable
2 months ago
Isha was a boring character with no personality of her own. I wish they would’ve had Jinx bond with an established character instead of creating the plot device that is Isha.
Hairy_Skill_9768
2 months ago
Marcus was someone that nade shit ton of mistakes, relatable and couldn’t redeem himself, very tragic I love that implementation even if it’s just a warning
75% of these opinions aren’t even unpopular lmao you can even say they’re cold takes.
I would’ve been fine with Sevika’s less than desired screen time had they not hyped up her conclusion in act 3.
I wish we got to see more of Pitfighter Vi’s arc. It would have been interesting to see her overcome her problems like feeling no sense of purpose since she no longer has anyone to protect, her spiraling into alcoholism and getting into fights just to ease the pain in her heart. I wanted to see how she’ll get back up from this devastating blow that life gave her. I want to see her grow as a character. But in the end we only got 3 minutes of screen time and then that whole arc is gone lol. I like what we got in Act 2 but I really wish we got to explore that route more
I’m sad they steered away from the Zaun vs Piltover conflict. Granted, it would have probably lead to similar things if we had seen Jinx wage war against Piltover, but it was so central to the first season… Then again, I love when the message of artistic content is basically “forgive and unite, instead of fighting and hating”.
Cait’s comment to Vi about becoming an enforcer were absolutely foul.
Vi tries to explain the trauma of becoming an enforcer- a group that literally *killed her parents.* and Cait brushes her off repeatedly. Vi tells her she doesn’t understand and Cait says “yes I do, I do know what it’s like-“ umm. No you dont?? And then Cait scoffs and says “I thought you were on our side.” Sorry Cait did you forget the *years* Vi spent in prison getting regularly beat by enforcers?
She basically ignores everything Vi says and then hits her with “I thought you were one of the good ones.”
Arcane what happened to the Firelights
Black rose and the medarda family thing is plain and undeveloped, goes too fast, appears too little that turns meaningless for spectator and just a bunch of colors and light each moment
During season 1 never was even subtly mentioned that Mel has magic powers, she never has training or knowledge about it but then with a saylor moon sequence she knows how to use it, later even attack other witch, is like c’mon
I’ve seen people say Jinx was a better sister to Isha than Vi was to Powder. Yes, their relationship was good but she was not even close to being as good as Vi. Enabling Isha to do whatever she wants is not good, that’s the worst thing you can do to a child. (I’m not saying punishing or screaming at the children is good). Isha put herself in danger everytime, not once Jinx talked to her to not do it. As soon as I saw she tagging along Jinx to find WW I knew she was a goner. Part of parenting is correcting the children and making them understand why, what they did was wrong or dangerous. Isha and Jinx were sisters but Vi was a sister and a parent to Powder.
Heimerdinger was right all the time, if everyone listens to him instead of banning, a lot of things will be different
Jinx didn’t need a redemption arc. Her arc could’ve led her to become more stable, grow as a person, and maybe even have Isha to take care of. But keeping her as a villain, without everyone forgiving her, would’ve been much more interesting.
Steb is my favorite character in the whole damn show
This is kind of long and I dont know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I didnt care for the constant killing of everyone jinx loves for the sake of her character development. It became an insanely boring and kind of predictable “twist”, to me, especially in season 2. I get the sentiment of trying to establish why she believes everyone who she gets close to dies, but at what point does that become just slightly cliche?
Her parents die, then Vander dies, then Mylo and Claggor die, then Vi leaves her, then Vi comes back just to “leave” again, then She accidentally kills Silco, then season 2 happens which leads to her meeting Isha and Warwick coming back and right when Jinx is finally at her best we’ve seen in awhile, both of them die within literal seconds/minutes of each other! I get that they need to have a good understandable reason for Jinx to have gotten caught by the enforcers, but do you see how all these things, while tragic and in my opinion decently/well written, happening consistently back to back can become almost expected and loose a bit of its shock value?
It also becomes frustrating when these characters don’t get enough time to really breathe as characters by themself. Lets take Isha for example, nearly every important scene Jinx and Isha should’ve had on screen like them bonding, growing closer, etc. happens off screen or in a very quick montage during that one song that I cant remember the name of right now! So for the viewers it just looks like Isha falls into Jinxs lap, follows her, scene cuts, Isha shows back up during Sevikas fight, Scene cuts, and next thing you know they’re super uber close enough for Jinx to bring a literal child to watch a deadly battle with her sister. It’s hard for me to actually get a grasp of how much time has truly passed for these two to get that close and imagination only can get you so far and will never truly be confirmed.
Scar the Piccolo of Arcane. He pulls up looking cool as hell but gets folded by Jinx in s1e04 and Vi in s1e06. Just a punching bag😭
“we don’t judge” and put an image of Marcus, who’s entire personality was that he was a judgemental asshole. Nice one!
Prepare yourself to hate me:
– Episode 7 ruined the pacing and destroyed any chance at a coherent end of the story. That being said, it is also a fantastic episode of television.
– Viktor’s motivation and actions as a villain is stupid as shit, and cheapen his entire arc. I find that he is all like “I know better” only for him to agree he definitely doesn’t know any better hilarious.
The whole Vander/Warwick plot was unnecessary and badly handled.
There , i said it.
Vi’s character became flatter as the season went on. It felt like at any point in time, she was just Jinx’s sister or Caitlyn’s girlfriend, never her own character.
Isha getting plot deviced sucks and kinda ruins the whole point of why Jinx was a Jinx (reducing it to some sort of actual curse instead of a commentary on the environment around her)
Hermiweiner had the most complete arc in the show
The whole Noxus storyline kinda just felt like an extended promo for the next show, which sucks because if it was taken out, we would’ve had a lot more time to focus on the characters that we know and love
I’m not a fan of alternative timelines. I’m so tired of stories including this cliché.
They 100% screwed up with Vi in season 2. And the amount of people here who to try to gaslight disappointed Vi fans that this is somehow peak writing is upsetting, and approaching toxic positivity.
I actually like Vi’s whole “dirt beneath your fingernails” line but every time I hear it I think to myself, “I know Vi’s a bit of a messy slob but she has to know you *are* supposed to clean beneath your fingernails, right?”
Vi was so boring in season 2. Far better in 1.
I feel like they did Ekko dirty in the show.
You’re meaning to tell me a twice orphaned boy who had to grow up in drug riddled, gang run, shit stained city had became sugar, spice and everything nice with ZERO mistakes? Without any other positive adult figure and role model around him, after Benzo gone?
Let the homeboy make some mistakes ffs, let him and people around him suffer for them, let him learn from his mistakes and improve and grow from them. Every other character were allowed to make mistakes and grow from them, be it Vi, Jinx, Cait, Viktor, Jayce, Mel, Ambessa, hell even Silco. But not Ekko, he had to be the perfect, live, laugh, love, all good in the hood, protecting the hoods lifestyle and identity generic black teenage boy. Which made him boring honestly.
And then, they doubled down, created an entire fan service episode where his character has even more reduced into the lovestruck boy savior, he completely forgot about anything else other than Powder/Jinx.
They did Ekko dirty.
I wish we got a little more closure at the end.
Ngl I’d be pissed with having to clean up all those damn left over robot things. Like is there just a giant pile of them thrown somewhere? What are they made of? Flesh, bone, metal? Also! Why did they become zombie-like when Jayce was in the AU?
I feel like Mel’s character didn’t stand out much in Season 2.
Don’t get me wrong — Mel’s my favorite Arcane character. But I still don’t fully get the significance of her journey. The whole thing with being trapped in the cave, becoming a mage, fighting Mamadarda, and then saving Mamadarda from the Black Rose—like, it all feels very “chosen one” to me.
In season 1, she used to be the one manipulating everything, pulling all the strings, but in Season 2, it’s like she’s just reacting to the situation and letting herself be manipulated. Except that part in the end when she fooled(?) the black rose from getting red juice from Mamadarda’s head.
I *loved* the “Blood, Sweat, and Tears” MV, though — Loved it to bits. I was encouraged to go to the gym and run the extra mile because of that song. I feel like it adds depth and explains what Season 2 didn’t quite manage to.
Gosh, that song had some OOMPH, some soul and pain and power.
That MV awakened such a fierce, protective instinct in me—it made me cry out of protective rage, like full-on mama-bear rage(in this case, wolf-rage i guess), ready to defend the people I love, no matter what.
Would love to know about your thoughts on this one, please. <3
I wish S1 had a character that they built up to take Maddie’s role in S2. Make it feel like an actual betrayal you know
The ending made 0 sense and Victor should not have been the big bad.
The writers had so much character plots to juggle by the end of S2 that they couldn’t write a LOT of the main struggle/plot that was brought up in S1 and S2.
Why would Zaunites go to Piltover’s help? Huh? They were martial law-ed but yet helped those that martial lawed them? Nah. Not enough time or writing to go around. A lot of things were just not present for THE MOST satisfying ending.
Agree with the Marcus opinion. Now, a few of my own:
The writers took a lot of shortcuts in the second season, and it shows.
Maddie was handled lazily – we had the potential to see the complications in relationship, but oh no, she had to be a spy, and thus, made it incredibly convenient for people to hate her. With Marcus, they made it clear that he was not to be liked. With Maddie, they wanted to make her likeable, then didn’t know what to do with her.
The show went from one about Piltover and Zaun to a show set in Piltover and Zaun – we lost all of the political intrigue, which is why I hate the eighth episode. The two nations were far too willing to team up, in spite of everything. The PnZ war should have been set at the end of the continuity they are currently trying to set up.
I loved what they did with Isha when she was alive in the moment, but she became an afterthought in the third act, and it kind of makes her feel gimmicky.
Ambessa talking about sacrifice once is simply insufficient to justify the loss of Caitlyn’s eye, if that is the path the writers take her in. Moreover, we see bits and pieces of Caitlyn sacrificing things throughout the series, making this even more redundant, and this would be a bridge to far. Physically, the injury makes zero sense – if you rewatch it, Caitlyn moves her face enough for the blade to move completely past the side of her face, yet there is blood despite it not even touching her eye. The lack of physical sense that the injury makes has gotten to the point where fan artists have to add extra scars from absolutely nowhere in order to justify it.
It honestly feels like the writers did not want to write Caitlyn actually addressing her actions against Zaun, so they tacked on a physical injury (which, as stated above, makes no sense) and I don’t think those two wrongs make a right. This would also kill Caitlyn’s career as a sheriff well before it began – one eyed field agents are either augmented in other ways or possess incredible skills. Also, we clearly see that PnZ has the technology and medicine available to completely heal these wounds, so which further renders this as a permanent injury as asinine.
A similar criticism goes to Vander – he does not look anything like a werewolf or his in game model, and him completely losing his memories makes little sense, as in game Warwick clearly still remembers his children. I also think that we saw far too little of a lucid Vander, and him going feral would have been a lot more impactful had we seen him interact with the sisters. However, this could change and he regains his memories in a future series.
The Dynasties and Dystopia scene was short and conveyed so much in such a small amount of time. Nothing really happens in the Guns for Hire scene, but it is my favorite scene in all of Arcane. That being said, the creative team also spent far too much time on musical scenes in the second season, without anywhere near the same impact as in the first.
Vi’s character writing worked in the first season because we could contrast her stagnancy with the changing world around her, but this just doesn’t work in the second season.
Onto slightly greener pastures, I admit that I liked most of Viktor’s arc. The premise was similar: get rid of human imperfections. They addressed this in completely different ways, though. Had this been an original character, it would have been grear, but since it contradicts League lore, there is more controversy, and it is easy to see why.
For now, though, Arcane as canon makes zero sense, and trying to make such drastic retcons defeats the purpose of trying to pass the show as an origin of sorts.
Season 2 was honestly average
I just know jayce and viktor are alive somewhere. That ending sent them elsewhere
I don’t find Ekko that interesting. He didn’t get a lot of screen time that really warranted him to be the savior in the S2 finale. If he appeared more, I probably would’ve liked him more. I feel the same way with Hiemerdinger. He’s cute and fun, but was bland compared to other characters.
There was too much music in S2. They ranged from okay to great, though I think S1’s music quality is better. Also, most of the episodes starting with music got really old.
1. Ekko is too much like Mary Sue, I simply cant buy and enjoy this character
2. Some fight scenes were too long and I hate Smeech Sevika fight. Generally whole Smeech plotline could be removed and screen time used better.
3. Ending with Vander/Warwick coming back and dying like 4th time was cheap and unnecessary. Jinx could sacrifice herself in some other way, without creators using him again.
Saying this I still rated this season 9/10 and absolutely love it.
I tried using some actually unpopular or not talked about points. It seems like 80% of comments here arent really unpopular
Edit: okay, since my initial statement wasn’t unpopular/controversial enough –
Season 2 was BAD
Poor writing that is all over the place,
Entire arcs given nothing more than a Epic Music Video Montage (except the jayce/ekko AU montage, that was fire and really well done,)
A complete disregard for a lot of things that went down and got set up during season 1(shimmer in its entirety basically doesn’t matter at all)
An obvious plot device child made to die and make the viewers feel bad because oh no the baby
A bad rushed non-ending
Sidelining the previous main characters (vi and jinx) for rushed snippets of each character doing a thing with no actual introspection into ANY of the characters. Caitlyn has an entire dictator arc and we see just about nothing for it, and we get like 3 lines of introspection on how she feels about it. Girl you were a fascist
And the climax of the entire show is a bad disability plot. “Wow jayce… I see now being disabled is okay… Maybe life is okay…” What kind of steven universe writing is that?
The black rose plot sticks out like a sore thumb, and the entire noxus situation 1. Feels out of place 2. Serves nothing but to unite the under/upper city even though we spend like the entirety of season one establishing the class disparity and differences.
Season 2 had breathtaking visuals, a decent instrument score, but very poor writing that had no direction. I don’t blame the writers, I definitely feel like there mightve been corporate overreach to crunch and change things, but the writing doesn’t hold a candle to the emotional masterpiece that season 1 was
I hate how they portrayed the resolution between upper class piltover and zaun here.
“Hey I know we allowed police brutality to be rampant, completely ignored the drug barons, pretty much never tried any social services, dump all of our garbage on your homes and literally fucking gas your civilians, but we made a world ending experiment and now we need you to die fighting our enemies.
But also you have to be the bigger man and just accept we did all of that and let us get away with zero consequences and in return we’ll stop beating you… maybe.”
And then the people in Zaun just… agreed?
We needed another season to fully flesh out all stories without feeling rushed. Season 2 should have ended with Isha’s sacrifice.
I liked Jinx’s direction in the second season, but I would have preferred her character to become more and more evil until she became the main villain.
I’ve already seen a million redemption arcs, I want an arc of corruption with no return.
Hear me out Maddie is kinda hot
CaitVi was ruined for me in season 2. I liked their relationship dynamic up until their reconciliation in episode 7. After that they lost their deep and caring connection and it became shallow where lots of things were unspoken. I also feel like VI’s trauma needed to be explored and the fact that they didn’t made Cait seem like she was taking advantage of her in a way. I mean Cait hits Vi after knowing her backstory in Stillwater, that’s not a normal reaction. Hitting the people you supposedly love is serious and in Arcane they just brushed it off.
At the time, Vi was so desperate for someone that she’d settle for anyone, she loves hard and Cait took advantage of that. Vi literally had no one but Cait who never even apologized. You NEED to verbally apologize and explain if you hit your partner, I’m sorry but that’s just how it is. They could’ve had just ONE scene where they actually talked about what happened, but literally all Cait had to say is “I KNOW”.
I really loved Jayce and Viktor’s ending a lot more than CaitVi because it actually showed true connection and true love, not just convenient love.
and don’t even get me started on how this translates to real life statistics on lesbian domestic abuse. I’m queer myself and this topic was treated in an insensitive way with CaitVi.
*I’ll probably get downvoted for this even though it’s a safe space, but oh well
Jinx redemption was rushed after all the horrible things she done how am i supposed to feel like sympathy for her though there are cases when characters have done just as much as jinx but their redemption feels earned
Isha was just there so that jinx redemption could be a bit more believable
The amount of people excusing Mel’s actions at the start of season 1 and going as far to say she wasn’t manipulative towards Jayce or literally everyone around her minus Elora or well she’s a politician that’s her job just baffle me . Even the writers seem to excuse her actions since when Jayce finally calls her out , she doesn’t even apologize or feel remorse for her earlier actions and then in the next scene Jayce apologizes which is wtf
I get Mel grew and later probably developed real feelings for Jayce and is complex and yada yada but that doesn’t erase the fact that she was part of the oppressive council of Piltover that led Zaun to be that bad, that she is essentially the (one of) richest person in Piltover with so much influence and power and she could have done something to make a change , at least speak up about Zaun and that they are also people or need help once in a blue moon, anything, and not accumulate more money or not take part in the council when she already has enough money ffs. She only starts caring about Zaun literally around the time they start causing problems and become a threat and when Jayce brings it up, NEVER before cuz they aren’t a threat up her ass to her status. Or her pretaking in corruption and shady deals (she was teaching Jayce so she presumably also takes part in corruption ) which i mean you can choose not to do it, like Heimerdinger (who is just oblivious probably but still doesn’t consciously enable corruption )
Mel to me seems like those extremely beautiful celebrities or CEOs that are super rich , have shady businesses going on, hundreds if not thousands of people suffer due to their actions (or inactions especially because she chose to take part in politics and not idk merchant guild or some other non government business ) but people totally overlook or forget that because oh this person is attractive (aka fuckable) and they have a cool girlboss personality…
I am actually glad i read somewhere on instagram that if Mel and Jayce’s genders were reversed more people would be appaled by her bullshit at the start . Because a manipulative slightly older male in a position of financial and social power over two scientist females like Jayce/Viktor that has sex with one of them would be more shocking and controversial .
I could give more examples of how her behavior at the start is totally appalling (small things like her supposedly caring so much about Jayce and knowing him for years , but she has 0 idea about his personal relationships past Heimerdinger like when Jayce tells her Viktor is super close to him she says she didn’t know or in the forge Jayce says “no signs of Caitlyn either” Caitlyn his only other major friend, a girl he has known for years, basically Jayce’s little non blood related sister , his (bond) SISTER ffs and Mel just replies “the kiramman girl?” Indicating that she has no idea why Jayce would call her by first name or that they are close, nor with Viktor, because she is so used to using people she probs can’t comprehend Jayce isn’t just using Viktor for his knowledge or using the Kirammans for their funding (like how she would) ….but she supposedly knows him for years , which shows she initially only cared about superficial stuff and how much profit he was making for her, not his actual deep relationships or anything else)
Anyway back to the main beef since Mel isn’t shown directly harming anyone like Cait, Vi , Jinx, Jayce , Silco , Sevika , Singed, who directly harm people or talk about harming people, everyone overlook Mel’s involvement with piltovers oppression, even in the show (same with Heimerdinger but at least he tries to go to Zaun and then goes to Ekko to help who lives in Zaun so dude makes some in person attempt even tough i could go on about how Heimerdinger is also older and even worse since he let everything get worse but anyway) . Same in real life people will be appalled at someone directly punching or harming or murdering another person and calling them awful , but won’t be mad at ultra rich people or politicians who indirectly ruin the lives of hundreds, thousands and millions, because they haven’t directly seen them harm children or other people.
Idk if I sound fucking stupid but how did Vi and Cait just instantly reconnect though Cait literally hit her with her rifle? Like straight up parallel to Vi and Powder in s1 and it was YEARS until they reunited (long enough to where reuniting again was most important) and after a couple months they never even had them like, discuss it? Have Vi show some sort of disdain/hurt from that?
Because from the framing, the parallels, I felt that Vi experienced the same betrayal/pain as Powder did when Vi hit Powder in s1. That was one of the biggest scenes that had me like “wow. This is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.” Because of how emotional and *raw* it was to me. So to see it happen AGAIN and then just be brushed off, to not alter the dynamic even a *smidge* just threw me off. Like at least talk it out ???
1. i didn’t like how they handled sisters dynamic this season
2. isha is cute but i couldn’t feel anything when she died because it was crystal clear from the first moment we saw her
3. i can’t help but feel sad when i think vi’s potential and development in S1 turns into her following cait and did not really a significant role in S2
4. jinx was NOT a better sister than vi
5. it annoys me when people make jinx and ishas relationship maternal, they clearly had a sister dynamic
6. it annoys me when people say jinx is incapable of love because she has mental ilness
7. ep7 was very much of a fanservice, and as a fan i was serviced thank you very much
8. that final line was so ass
I like season 2 better than 1. I said this on a previous post asking the same thing but it’s the only one I really got.
I was not a fan of the soundtrack. While I do think most of the songs are good, the music really just pulled me out of the show.
Mylo was right about Powder, she wasn’t ready to join the missions, if Vi hadn’t insisted on including her all the time (besides never training her to improve her skills), she wouldn’t have felt the need to prove herself, she wouldn’t have intervened in Vander’s rescue, the explosion would never have happened and the gang would have managed to save Vander, escape from the factory and avoid the entire disaster that followed.
That’s the truth, and Jinx knows it, that’s why he’s the one she sees the most in her hallucinations.

Isha was a boring character with no personality of her own. I wish they would’ve had Jinx bond with an established character instead of creating the plot device that is Isha.
Marcus was someone that nade shit ton of mistakes, relatable and couldn’t redeem himself, very tragic I love that implementation even if it’s just a warning