CEO and executives of Jeju Air bow in apology after deadly South Korea plane crash.
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We have no idea what caused this. It could be pilot error, manufacturing error, birds, weather, all of those combined, we have no idea yet.
Hopefully the KAAIB releases information soon.
But it’s entirely possible these men had nothing to do with it, and for the rest of their lives they’ll have the weight of 180 people’s lives on their conscience.
So fucking tragic. The pictures of the families waiting for more information is heartbreaking.
On the other hand, you have Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun, who received 33 million dollars in bonus and claimed that he is proud of every single decision his company made.
Experts: Both Engines Failed, Likely Not Enough Time to Manually Deploy Landing Gear
JoongAng Ilbo | December 29, 2024 16:56 (Updated 17:50) (https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/25303623)
Current pilots who have reviewed footage of the Jeju Air Flight 7C2216 crash at Muan International Airport suggest that both engines failed, leading to the captain’s inability to operate the landing gear and a subsequent belly landing.
Captain A, an active pilot, stated, “Looking at the footage of the accident, there seems to be slight smoke coming not only from the right engine but also from the left engine, indicating that both engines may have failed.” He further explained, “In the case of Boeing aircraft, if both engines fail, no electronic systems function until the Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) is activated.” It is believed that the left engine may also have ingested a bird, causing damage due to a bird strike.
When all electronic systems in the aircraft fail, it becomes nearly impossible to automatically lower the landing gear or reduce the speed of the aircraft. In such situations, pilots attempt to lower the landing gear manually, but it typically takes about 30 seconds to deploy one gear.
Professor Jung Yoon-sik of the Department of Aviation at Catholic Kwandong University added, “Judging by the landing speed visible in the footage, it seems the captain was unable to control both engines, and the decision to change the runway after the first landing attempt indicates that both engines were likely unmanageable.” He also noted that there likely wasn’t enough time for the pilot to manually deploy the landing gear.
According to the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, and Transport, the pilot declared the international distress signal “Mayday” after the bird strike warning from the control tower. The ministry stated, “One minute after the bird strike warning, the pilot declared Mayday, and two minutes later, the crash occurred.” This suggests that it would have been physically impossible to deploy the landing gear manually within such a short timeframe.
This might be inappropriate but what shoes is the second from the right guy wearing
As for what I have learned, there were plane maintenance crew members posting online about how the Jeju airline has a specifically bad working environment vs other airlines in Korea. Their crew had to work 13-14 hours shifts with only one 20 minutes break. One member even stated online, before the incident, that the planes of their airlines will crash someday because of the faulty maintenance. The company is suspicious.
Shouldn’t they immediately demand less government oversight and blame unions?
People in this thread
“Bows don’t do anything, fix the problem”
People in this thread if it was a Japanese CEO bowing and not Korean
“WOW JAPAN, JUST JAPAN, SUCH NICE AND POLITE PEOPLE!!!!! CLEAN CITIES AND TRAINS”
If this was in the United States, the CEO would have blamed the passengers for being on the plane.
Birdstrike is the initial problem, but the landing gear did not work, and there was a pile of earth with concrete reinforcement structure not so far from the end of the airstrip. The plane crashed into this and that is why there are so many deaths
Uh .. supposedly it was a bird strike. How is the leadership of the company supposed to prevent that🙄
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/experts-question-bird-strike-cause-deadly-south-korean-airliner-crash-2024-12-29/
The BBC report I watched just now had parts of the Korean fire chief giving updates that they still think it’s either a bird strike or inclement weather, but I’m confused why no landing gear was out at all and to what extent this accident could have been caused by human error.
Only a handful of comments by aviation experts can be found online as of now, but this Reuters article was an interesting read…
Some questions/comments I thought were notable
• bird strikes happen often but typically don’t result in “the loss of an airplane” (whatever is meant by that)
• the expert who commented had never seen a bird strike prevent the landing gear from being extended
• expert also added that on-ground emergency services would normally be ready for a belly-landing (foam, extinguishers), so the fact that none of this was prepared goes to show how quickly things went wrong
One of the worst accidents these year.
Maybe we should start bowing after school shootings instead of “thoughts and prayers”.
Shit bow!
I’m not satisfied until the birds apologize.
Far left is a shit bow
Public after seeing these officers bowing: Understandable, have a nice day 👍
Yes i think it was Boewing.
The cultural emphasis on accountability here is both sobering and admirable. Compare this to places where apologies, let alone accountability, are rare.
They barely bowing they dont care i saw curb your enthusiasm
I realize to the West this may look like “responsibility,” but if you ask me, they are not bowing deep enough.
How horrific for the pilots to get the plane on the ground in one piece only have a wall destroy them.
Boeing kills again
That bow ain’t deep enough
Article said the bird strike occurred on landing, if it struck the engine in the last few seconds before landing would the pilot have enough time to adjust throttle, trying and the others to have a safe landing? Knowing the pilot staffing crisis by most airlines and worsening checks/maintenance one planes in the hunt for profits, wouldn’t surprise me if this is an accident just waiting to happen to other airlines. Especially if the USA gets rid of it starts to gut the FAA
That’s a shit bow, they gave a shit bow.
They sure aren’t bowing very much
Lmfao all the comments defending these guys. Not saying they’re in the wrong, but if it was a US company they’d be torn to shreds about how bowing doesn’t fix anything and any reasonable comments saying it wasn’t their fault would be downvoted to hell.
A bow in apology from Japanese executives is probably the most sincere apology you’ll ever get from a corporation. You know they mean it.
You’re gonna need to bow lower than that
Has anyone of them built a wall at the end of the runway?
Does anyone know why Muan airport had a concrete wall for antennae holdings and was poistioned at such a short distance off the runway?
MMW: This is going to be pilot error. Having been shook by the bird strike and the subsequent aviation issues, it appears that the landing gear may have been forgotten about as they swung around for a final approach.
Just my $0.02.
Somewhere Larry David is saying this is no bow!
American company: thoughts and prayers and massive layoffs.
And no charges were pressed
I saw this and heard it was a bird strike, I thought to myself it’s a shame there wasn’t a body of water to land on, it worked the last time I heard about an actual bird strike.
Curious – what kind of execs are they?
If it was a US company, the CEO would be getting a bonus.
Can they not get sued for “admitting” fault?
they are dripped out