Let’s be real, Trump had very little to do with that map. He merely slapped his name on it after his team presented him with 5 bullet points that made sense to him.
Rare_Government507
2 months ago
Here before the comments get locked 🎉
ShroomieDoomieDoo
2 months ago
babe wake up, they’re gerrymandering foreign countries now
Intrepid-Treacle-862
2 months ago
This is one of the worst and least realistic plans ever constructed. When you compare it to the Clinton parameters which where rejected by Arafat or even olmert’s plan (which I don’t think would have succeeded). If there is any new peace process it should follow the Clinton parameters because that was as realistic as you would get imo.
Emotional-Ebb8321
2 months ago
1980 called. They want their bantustans back.
Marius_Sulla_Pompey
2 months ago
A map called “How you upset everyone”. It’s a sorry looking combination of Palestine pre-1970s – Jerusalem and west bank suburbs.
Palestine wouldn’t give up that much of west bank and neither Israel regress its progress it made on the Gaza side.
Not just dysfunctional it’s also a recipe for more war. Clocks back in 60 years sort of.
StevenColemanFit
2 months ago
A two state solution is the only answer to this conflict, however, this is not it.
The Palestinian state must have dignity for the Palestinians and the opportunity to prosper.
The deal should also recognise and deal with Israel’s legitimate security concerns and ensure it can continue to exist as a Jewish state.
Too deny or argue with either of these points means you’re not an advocate for peace but rather an advocate for demonisation of one side, or simply put; a useful idiot for propaganda.
merckx575
2 months ago
The tunnel part is interesting.
KR1735
2 months ago
Honest question – is there anything left of Gaza to go back to?
Special_Ad8921
2 months ago
😂 You think Trump is going to offer the same thing he did BEFORE 10/7 to them now?
They’re not going to have a state for another 76 years.
moozootookoo
2 months ago
The majority of Palestinians want it all or nothing, they will end up with nothing.
In 50 years from now this map will look more desirable then what they have or will get.
It’s just how it’s going to go for anyone paying attention to reality.
jussumguy123
2 months ago
I do not see much difference in Trumps plan and what’s been going on for 40 plus years. Isreal controls resources and travel Palestinians get semi autonomy in designated areas.
teamswiftie
2 months ago
Map is missing tunnel styling in legend
karimDONO
2 months ago
This is a joke right? It is just less land for Palestinians
RubOwn
2 months ago
After what happened on October 7th, the Palestinians will be extremely lucky if they ever get something remotely similar to this.
AdministrationFew451
2 months ago
To anyone criticizing this, like it or not, this is actually way more plausible than any “67” style borders.
The palestinians had multiple chances for just that and rejected them all, and no one minimally sane would give them that now, as that would just mean more war.
The only plausible state would likely be based on the current actual situation on the ground, and current A&B divisions with some corrections, and transportational continuity.
And even then, obviously demilitarized.
That’s where doubling down on attempt to destroy the other side for 80 years gets you, even as you keep losing.
CatVegetable8705
2 months ago
There will be no peace in Israel/Palestine as long as the religious fundamentalists on both sides have a say in the matter.
adeadhead
2 months ago
It’s honestly not the worst plan I’ve ever seen, if it includes citizenship for east Jerusalem residents.
It’s not perfect, but its one of the better realistic maps I’ve seen.
OFmerk
2 months ago
“But the Palestinians always reject peace” because every deal offered involves them getting fleeced
DevoidHT
2 months ago
Lets be honest. Its not his plan. Hes too dumb to come up with anything as complex as a peace plan. This is what the highest bidder paid for.
ProConqueror
2 months ago
wtf is this shit?
This looks like something a child could draw
Achmedino
2 months ago
This looks totally reasonable and sustainable 👌👌
Ape_Politica1
2 months ago
After October 7 there will never be a Palestinian state. That ship has sailed. Not saying that’s a good thing- but it’s the reality of the situation.
David210
2 months ago
Here is my comprehensive peace plan I drafted for an imaginary map I’m working on.
The Rafah Accords ☮️
Article 1
Reaffirmation of Existing Peace Treaties
A. The border between Egypt and Israel as defined by the 1979 peace treaty is recognized.
B. The border between Jordan and Israel as defined by the 1994 peace treaty is recognized.
Article 2
Negotiation and Recognition between Israel and Lebanon
The border between Lebanon and Israel will be negotiated through international mediation, aiming to define it as closely as possible to the 1949 armistice line. Lebanon recognizes Israel as an independent and legitimate state contingent on the successful conclusion of these negotiations.
Article 3
Mutual Recognition and Defined Borders between Israel and Palestine
Israel and Palestine recognize each other as independent and legitimate states. The borders are defined as follows:
– Gaza Strip: According to the 1950 armistice agreements.
– West Bank: The final borders to be determined through negotiations based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed land swaps.
Article 4
Jerusalem as a Shared Capital
Jerusalem will serve as the shared capital of both Israel and Palestine. The city’s administration will be divided, with East Jerusalem under Palestinian control and West Jerusalem under Israeli control, ensuring free access to holy sites for all religions.
The specific arrangements will be subject to further negotiations with international mediation.
Until an agreement is reached, the entirety of Jerusalem will be under the authority the United Nations.
Article 5
Security and Withdrawal
Israel will gradually withdraw military and security personnel from Palestinian territories over a period of 18 months, with international peacekeepers overseeing the process to ensure security and stability.
Article 6
Settler Relocation and Compensation
Israeli settlers in designated Palestinian territories will have 18 months to relocate. Those who choose to stay will be granted Palestinian residency with rights protected under international law. A compensation mechanism for displaced settlers will be established with international assistance.
Article 7
Demilitarization and Security
Palestine will maintain a limited security force for internal security and police functions, supported and trained by an international coalition. Armed groups will be disbanded under international supervision. An amnesty will be granted to the members of those armed groups excluding those in leadership positions.
Article 8
Rights and Citizenship
The Palestinian government will grant full civil rights to Israeli settlers who choose to remain and prohibit discriminatory laws against Jews and other minorities. This will be monitored by an international human rights commission.
Article 9
International Involvement and Guarantees
An international peacekeeping force, along with observers from the United Nations, the European Union, and regional organizations, will oversee the implementation of the agreement. This force will ensure compliance with the terms and provide security during the transition period.
This peacekeeping force will have full authority to act in disputed territory to protect civilians populations and maintain peace and security.
Article 10
Economic Cooperation and Development
Both states will commit to economic cooperation, facilitated by an international fund aimed at rebuilding infrastructure, promoting economic development, and improving living standards in both Israel and Palestine.
Article 11
Continuous Dialogue and Dispute Resolution
A permanent joint committee with representatives from Israel, Palestine, and the international community will be established to resolve disputes, oversee the implementation of the peace agreement, and ensure continuous dialogue.
Neenchuh
2 months ago
Ironically after what hamas did to israel on Oct 7 this is probably going to be the best deal that they would get going forward. That is if israelis ever again want to offer them a deal which is highly unlikely
rmp959
2 months ago
A problem with this is that the hardline Israeli regime will continue to steal land from Palestinians until they take everything. They believe everything is theirs and they have the right to all lands. No peace for Palestinians.
randucci
2 months ago
Imagine a world without God.
BaxElBox
2 months ago
Palestine looses more land and gets even more controlled. Wanna bet settlers would still pour in to the west bank if this happened. And try to take more and more. These the types of plans Palestinians “reject” which makes them look bad by the media because they don’t show the horrendous deal just the fact they rejected one to curb there image .
ContractLong7341
2 months ago
Take their best land, relocate them, and make them dependent on you for food, water, and energy.
This is exactly what happened to the Native Americans.
thetaleech
2 months ago
It’s so funny that anybody thinks that this is novel or logical lol.
Just bc you heard about Palestine a year ago doesn’t mean nobody has thought of these ideas. It’s all been considered. He’s not gonna fix it bc “he makes deals” lol … be a serious person.
Cyzax007
2 months ago
Tbh, this would probably give the Palestinians more than any other realistic(!) deal would give them…
OldGuto
2 months ago
I see no Trump Resort Gaza.
Mofane
2 months ago
Crazy how some people believe you can come up with a “let’s go back to status quo” plan and expect anyone to like it.
Israël does not plan on giving up any part of Palestine, the USA does not plan to give any dollar to any Palestinian state, and Palestinian do not plan to give up their liberty.
I like the tunnel that will never get built
Shit I see in HOI4
Wtf is that
i thought i was on the cirklejerk sub 😭
Why is the border of Libanon dotted?
Brown: Israel
Green: Israel, but in green
Let’s be real, Trump had very little to do with that map. He merely slapped his name on it after his team presented him with 5 bullet points that made sense to him.
Here before the comments get locked 🎉
babe wake up, they’re gerrymandering foreign countries now
This is one of the worst and least realistic plans ever constructed. When you compare it to the Clinton parameters which where rejected by Arafat or even olmert’s plan (which I don’t think would have succeeded). If there is any new peace process it should follow the Clinton parameters because that was as realistic as you would get imo.
1980 called. They want their bantustans back.
A map called “How you upset everyone”. It’s a sorry looking combination of Palestine pre-1970s – Jerusalem and west bank suburbs.
Palestine wouldn’t give up that much of west bank and neither Israel regress its progress it made on the Gaza side.
Not just dysfunctional it’s also a recipe for more war. Clocks back in 60 years sort of.
A two state solution is the only answer to this conflict, however, this is not it.
The Palestinian state must have dignity for the Palestinians and the opportunity to prosper.
The deal should also recognise and deal with Israel’s legitimate security concerns and ensure it can continue to exist as a Jewish state.
Too deny or argue with either of these points means you’re not an advocate for peace but rather an advocate for demonisation of one side, or simply put; a useful idiot for propaganda.
The tunnel part is interesting.
Honest question – is there anything left of Gaza to go back to?
😂 You think Trump is going to offer the same thing he did BEFORE 10/7 to them now?
They’re not going to have a state for another 76 years.
The majority of Palestinians want it all or nothing, they will end up with nothing.
In 50 years from now this map will look more desirable then what they have or will get.
It’s just how it’s going to go for anyone paying attention to reality.
I do not see much difference in Trumps plan and what’s been going on for 40 plus years. Isreal controls resources and travel Palestinians get semi autonomy in designated areas.
Map is missing tunnel styling in legend
This is a joke right? It is just less land for Palestinians
After what happened on October 7th, the Palestinians will be extremely lucky if they ever get something remotely similar to this.
To anyone criticizing this, like it or not, this is actually way more plausible than any “67” style borders.
The palestinians had multiple chances for just that and rejected them all, and no one minimally sane would give them that now, as that would just mean more war.
The only plausible state would likely be based on the current actual situation on the ground, and current A&B divisions with some corrections, and transportational continuity.
And even then, obviously demilitarized.
That’s where doubling down on attempt to destroy the other side for 80 years gets you, even as you keep losing.
There will be no peace in Israel/Palestine as long as the religious fundamentalists on both sides have a say in the matter.
It’s honestly not the worst plan I’ve ever seen, if it includes citizenship for east Jerusalem residents.
It’s not perfect, but its one of the better realistic maps I’ve seen.
“But the Palestinians always reject peace” because every deal offered involves them getting fleeced
Lets be honest. Its not his plan. Hes too dumb to come up with anything as complex as a peace plan. This is what the highest bidder paid for.
wtf is this shit?
This looks like something a child could draw
This looks totally reasonable and sustainable 👌👌
After October 7 there will never be a Palestinian state. That ship has sailed. Not saying that’s a good thing- but it’s the reality of the situation.
Here is my comprehensive peace plan I drafted for an imaginary map I’m working on.
The Rafah Accords ☮️
Article 1
Reaffirmation of Existing Peace Treaties
A. The border between Egypt and Israel as defined by the 1979 peace treaty is recognized.
B. The border between Jordan and Israel as defined by the 1994 peace treaty is recognized.
Article 2
Negotiation and Recognition between Israel and Lebanon
The border between Lebanon and Israel will be negotiated through international mediation, aiming to define it as closely as possible to the 1949 armistice line. Lebanon recognizes Israel as an independent and legitimate state contingent on the successful conclusion of these negotiations.
Article 3
Mutual Recognition and Defined Borders between Israel and Palestine
Israel and Palestine recognize each other as independent and legitimate states. The borders are defined as follows:
– Gaza Strip: According to the 1950 armistice agreements.
– West Bank: The final borders to be determined through negotiations based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed land swaps.
Article 4
Jerusalem as a Shared Capital
Jerusalem will serve as the shared capital of both Israel and Palestine. The city’s administration will be divided, with East Jerusalem under Palestinian control and West Jerusalem under Israeli control, ensuring free access to holy sites for all religions.
The specific arrangements will be subject to further negotiations with international mediation.
Until an agreement is reached, the entirety of Jerusalem will be under the authority the United Nations.
Article 5
Security and Withdrawal
Israel will gradually withdraw military and security personnel from Palestinian territories over a period of 18 months, with international peacekeepers overseeing the process to ensure security and stability.
Article 6
Settler Relocation and Compensation
Israeli settlers in designated Palestinian territories will have 18 months to relocate. Those who choose to stay will be granted Palestinian residency with rights protected under international law. A compensation mechanism for displaced settlers will be established with international assistance.
Article 7
Demilitarization and Security
Palestine will maintain a limited security force for internal security and police functions, supported and trained by an international coalition. Armed groups will be disbanded under international supervision. An amnesty will be granted to the members of those armed groups excluding those in leadership positions.
Article 8
Rights and Citizenship
The Palestinian government will grant full civil rights to Israeli settlers who choose to remain and prohibit discriminatory laws against Jews and other minorities. This will be monitored by an international human rights commission.
Article 9
International Involvement and Guarantees
An international peacekeeping force, along with observers from the United Nations, the European Union, and regional organizations, will oversee the implementation of the agreement. This force will ensure compliance with the terms and provide security during the transition period.
This peacekeeping force will have full authority to act in disputed territory to protect civilians populations and maintain peace and security.
Article 10
Economic Cooperation and Development
Both states will commit to economic cooperation, facilitated by an international fund aimed at rebuilding infrastructure, promoting economic development, and improving living standards in both Israel and Palestine.
Article 11
Continuous Dialogue and Dispute Resolution
A permanent joint committee with representatives from Israel, Palestine, and the international community will be established to resolve disputes, oversee the implementation of the peace agreement, and ensure continuous dialogue.
Ironically after what hamas did to israel on Oct 7 this is probably going to be the best deal that they would get going forward. That is if israelis ever again want to offer them a deal which is highly unlikely
A problem with this is that the hardline Israeli regime will continue to steal land from Palestinians until they take everything. They believe everything is theirs and they have the right to all lands. No peace for Palestinians.
Imagine a world without God.
Palestine looses more land and gets even more controlled. Wanna bet settlers would still pour in to the west bank if this happened. And try to take more and more. These the types of plans Palestinians “reject” which makes them look bad by the media because they don’t show the horrendous deal just the fact they rejected one to curb there image .
Take their best land, relocate them, and make them dependent on you for food, water, and energy.
This is exactly what happened to the Native Americans.
It’s so funny that anybody thinks that this is novel or logical lol.
Just bc you heard about Palestine a year ago doesn’t mean nobody has thought of these ideas. It’s all been considered. He’s not gonna fix it bc “he makes deals” lol … be a serious person.
Tbh, this would probably give the Palestinians more than any other realistic(!) deal would give them…
I see no Trump Resort Gaza.
Crazy how some people believe you can come up with a “let’s go back to status quo” plan and expect anyone to like it.
Israël does not plan on giving up any part of Palestine, the USA does not plan to give any dollar to any Palestinian state, and Palestinian do not plan to give up their liberty.