We need more vanguard characters to encourage fans to play them. The Thing is a step in the right direction.
NavyDragons
1 month ago
reasons why i dont have a main:

Dabmann2
1 month ago
Vanguard takes a lot of thought. Knowing when to push up away from your healers to chase someone, knowing when to shield your team or output DPS. Slow movement and a designated location in the team comp, a lot of players struggle to keep up with it.
Vegetable_Ease2087
1 month ago
I love it too. Its my main role, but don’t get to overconfident.
A higher rank duelist folds you if isolated, since most tanks feel slugish in comparison.
Active_Fun850
1 month ago
Tanking is difficult for most people as they treat them like dps, so most people don’t have fun with them since they can’t play it properly. Some also don’t like getting targeted by most of the enemy team and relying on healing from unreliable teammates. Also, most of the tanks don’t really do as much dps as the dps (and that’s a good thing), but most people like to kill things quickly. ” Big damage means me do good” kinda mindset ya know.
Scary_Fan4350
1 month ago
Good afternoon fellow tanks ๐ช๐ป I usually end up with the most damage on my team anyways cause Iโm the god damn god of thunder โก๏ธโก๏ธโก๏ธโก๏ธ
joeyctt1028
1 month ago
**Hulk** after changing the setting to disable hold to big jump is fun once I get used to getting big jump ready 24/7. Punch clap punch punch shift punch punch punch alrightfuckyoubye. Also great to lock down an Iron Fist. Forced him to either trade with 1 (not good) or straightout kill him, then jump back to frontline and enjoy 6v5. Not to mention jumping back and shifting for extra protection against ults
**Captain** is also fun and somewhat devastating with Thor’s teamup. I duo with my IRL friend and we smashed enemies’ strats to death everytime we saw them. Very funny seeing both Hulk and Strange bodybuarding their precious supports but unfortunately fail every time (My condolence for the CAD, 1/11/8 at the end)
IMO all other tanks lack the fun or dynamic of gameplay choice as most of their gameplan are quite straight forward. Due to their lack of mobility they are also more dependent on strats pumping resource to them.
EDIT: disable hold to big jump = press space to **start charging**, press again to jump
SETTING > KEYBOARD > ALL HEROS <=> BRUCE BANNER > scroll down and toggle OFF **Hold to Activate Incredible Leap**
alewi619
1 month ago
My friends usually play tank. Iโm not a fan of leaving the strategist job to anyone else except me in ranked (not in quick play tho I just play whatever)
Serious-Run-6165
1 month ago
Itโs the biggest learning gap when coming from Fortnite or CoD or whatever shooter people come from.ย
Duelist is just shooting the enemy, specialist is just shooting your team. Vanguard is a huge change.ย
ItsAMeVal
1 month ago
I prefer venom or peni, melee tanks just arent it for me. nothing give me that dopamine rush like a tank getting insta killed due to peni mines
ElTrAiN33
1 month ago
As a Venom/Doctor Strange main I feel as though if you want to perform well your support has to be on the fuckin’ ball. Tanks are extremely reliant on the team whereas Iron Man or Spider-Man you can kinda just do whatever you want as long as you’re getting kills.
This is coming from a gold 2 player, if you disagree don’t be a dick about it- respectfully explain why you think I’m wrong, I’d love to hear it.
LurkingPhoEver
1 month ago
The problem is that most Vanguards are slow and can’t really do much on their own.
A lot of players have wtf 360 no scope COD brain so playing a character that requires teamwork to be effective is incompatible with them.
GrinAndWaltz
1 month ago
I love Magneto, there’s nothing like the feeling of bubbleing a low-HP teammate about to be killed by a flanker. However while I like playing vanguards I’m shit at it, so I mostly play healers.
WorthMaintenance4386
1 month ago
If you have a bad support ( yes bad supports do exist and if you think otherwise youโre probably one of them) then it doesnโt feel good to tank when you arenโt getting healed.
UnderstandingDeep342
1 month ago
Vanguard main here. I 100% agree with you. I use every tank(minus Thor and Venom)and can do pretty good with each one. High health, great escaping mechanics if needed to go back, and the defensive ones are just so fun and great for pressure, too. Need more vanguard lovers out here
OkOutlandishness1710
1 month ago
Main support untill I got Mantis to Lord. Now Iโm trying to play only Vanguard. Love Hulk but heโs reliant on my supports being capable for me. Great supports and Iโm killing it with Hulk. Otherwise I find it easier to tank with Magneto/Strange/Thor with sub-par supports. Think I got the most time on Magento.
Valuable_Remote_8809
1 month ago
Because a lot of reason:
1. Players want damage and think that means they are doing good.
2. Players do not want responsibility and tanking requires more than just standing and hitting.
3. People believe that โwell Duelist has more characters so more people will naturally go thereโ, when in reality, it doesnโt matter if we have 60 characters split evenly amongst roles, or 33 characters split unevenly amongst all roles, more players, especially BAD players will head to dps.
4. Tanks have a lot of nuance and can feel bad to play if you donโt understand who to choose and how to counter pick.
None, one or more than one can apply, but these are the reasons i see. Evidently this is why a lot of people also meme on DPS players.
opiatesdesert
1 month ago
the COD player in me just likes duelists more ๐ In ranked tho I main Hulk exactly because of what you wrote. He is a beast
Longjumping_Big3659
1 month ago
I like Groot the most as Vangaurd and the most in general my fav hero ever lol
PatchNotesMan
1 month ago
My main, Peni, is Vanguard… but I don’t really like playing Vanguard characters outside of her nearly as much, the dynamic is completely different for each of them. Peni is fun for me because it’s a character who sets up and builds traps, and as someone who likes characters like Engineer in TF2, just feels right. I think people who aren’t playing Vanguard characters are just seeking an archetype that they don’t represent yet, and you’ll see more of them as more get added.
Fearless_Quail4105
1 month ago
I love playing magneto and bullying the backline with my RMB. though vanguard takes a lot of game sense to play. you have to play at the right spot. push too far and you wont get heals, dont push enough and the game will stall. but since it takes “some” thinking to play, not a lot of people play it because they dont wanna put in the effort of pressing more than 1 button. I used to play peni but right now the lobbies are 1-3-2 which is really unfun to play peni as a solo tank. magneto on the other hand, hard counters luna and cloak’s stalling ults, and semi counters wolverine.
divy-lover
1 month ago
I hit GM1 2 days ago playing nothing but tank (going for celestial), I plan on doing a “lessons learned” post but, to answer your question, its not easy and too much responsibility imo.
Hjonkr
1 month ago
I find most of them boring, that is all
Nikedawg
1 month ago
It’s my favorite for sure, I love Thor lately and have been pretty much exclusively playing him with fairly good results overall. He’s more of a Bruiser than a straight tank though although i still do fine solo tanking with him quite a bit. Sadly the only other tank I really enjoy is Magneto. Hoping Thing clicks with me so I have more options.
Paolomoonman
1 month ago
Started playing Doctor Strange in Plat because I kept filling into Tank and he’s quickly become one of my favorite characters to play. Actually a fair bit of carry potential with Strange.
Playing a bit more Magneto as well and it’s so fun one shotting a support through their ultimate. Planning to pick up Hulk/Captain America as well later in the season too.
yankeesullivan
1 month ago
I’m still trying to find a Vanguard I vibe with. The closest I’ve come is cap, but then I realized he’s like an off tank really.
I think a problem I have is: most of the support kits feel really dynamic and active. But I don’t get quite the same feedback with the vanguards that I’ve played so far. Imma keep trying though, I enjoy being a flex pick, so I gotta find at least a couple I enjoy.
crunkplug
1 month ago
sub tops unite
Hajileytsof
1 month ago
Tank was my best role in OW and I wanted to transition to Duelist coming into MR
I am a solo queue player and as duelist I am less reliant on the performance of my team but my own skill
However in higher ELO it becomes easier to flex because I feel more comfortable trusting the DPS at times
Would I climb faster if I were to focus on vanguard again? Maybe but tanks have less agency in this game
YaBoi_DarthMagician
1 month ago
Because it’s hard. You can’t just dive in with Hulk and start smashing like you would expect from the comics, shows and movies. You get MELTED with Hulk if you try a 1v6.
Tanking requires knowing where the enemy is, where your healers are and where cover/health packs are at all times. Knowing when to give it gas and when to let off and peel. Good tanking is a craft that takes work. For the amount of work you put in as a tank to not even get MVP or a thanks from your team, it’s more enticing to just shut your brain off and get kills as DPS.
It’s a thankless job, but we do it and real players know we carry the team.
Invisiblegun2
1 month ago
Its to the point i feel hardlocked as vanguard๐ every game its a instant 3-4 dps 1-2 healers & no vanguards. & if there is one its just groot. Thats my experience
We need more vanguard characters to encourage fans to play them. The Thing is a step in the right direction.
reasons why i dont have a main:

Vanguard takes a lot of thought. Knowing when to push up away from your healers to chase someone, knowing when to shield your team or output DPS. Slow movement and a designated location in the team comp, a lot of players struggle to keep up with it.
I love it too. Its my main role, but don’t get to overconfident.
A higher rank duelist folds you if isolated, since most tanks feel slugish in comparison.
Tanking is difficult for most people as they treat them like dps, so most people don’t have fun with them since they can’t play it properly. Some also don’t like getting targeted by most of the enemy team and relying on healing from unreliable teammates. Also, most of the tanks don’t really do as much dps as the dps (and that’s a good thing), but most people like to kill things quickly. ” Big damage means me do good” kinda mindset ya know.
Good afternoon fellow tanks ๐ช๐ป I usually end up with the most damage on my team anyways cause Iโm the god damn god of thunder โก๏ธโก๏ธโก๏ธโก๏ธ
**Hulk** after changing the setting to disable hold to big jump is fun once I get used to getting big jump ready 24/7. Punch clap punch punch shift punch punch punch alrightfuckyoubye. Also great to lock down an Iron Fist. Forced him to either trade with 1 (not good) or straightout kill him, then jump back to frontline and enjoy 6v5. Not to mention jumping back and shifting for extra protection against ults
**Captain** is also fun and somewhat devastating with Thor’s teamup. I duo with my IRL friend and we smashed enemies’ strats to death everytime we saw them. Very funny seeing both Hulk and Strange bodybuarding their precious supports but unfortunately fail every time (My condolence for the CAD, 1/11/8 at the end)
IMO all other tanks lack the fun or dynamic of gameplay choice as most of their gameplan are quite straight forward. Due to their lack of mobility they are also more dependent on strats pumping resource to them.
EDIT: disable hold to big jump = press space to **start charging**, press again to jump
SETTING > KEYBOARD > ALL HEROS <=> BRUCE BANNER > scroll down and toggle OFF **Hold to Activate Incredible Leap**
My friends usually play tank. Iโm not a fan of leaving the strategist job to anyone else except me in ranked (not in quick play tho I just play whatever)
Itโs the biggest learning gap when coming from Fortnite or CoD or whatever shooter people come from.ย
Duelist is just shooting the enemy, specialist is just shooting your team. Vanguard is a huge change.ย
I prefer venom or peni, melee tanks just arent it for me. nothing give me that dopamine rush like a tank getting insta killed due to peni mines
As a Venom/Doctor Strange main I feel as though if you want to perform well your support has to be on the fuckin’ ball. Tanks are extremely reliant on the team whereas Iron Man or Spider-Man you can kinda just do whatever you want as long as you’re getting kills.
This is coming from a gold 2 player, if you disagree don’t be a dick about it- respectfully explain why you think I’m wrong, I’d love to hear it.
The problem is that most Vanguards are slow and can’t really do much on their own.
A lot of players have wtf 360 no scope COD brain so playing a character that requires teamwork to be effective is incompatible with them.
I love Magneto, there’s nothing like the feeling of bubbleing a low-HP teammate about to be killed by a flanker. However while I like playing vanguards I’m shit at it, so I mostly play healers.
If you have a bad support ( yes bad supports do exist and if you think otherwise youโre probably one of them) then it doesnโt feel good to tank when you arenโt getting healed.
Vanguard main here. I 100% agree with you. I use every tank(minus Thor and Venom)and can do pretty good with each one. High health, great escaping mechanics if needed to go back, and the defensive ones are just so fun and great for pressure, too. Need more vanguard lovers out here
Main support untill I got Mantis to Lord. Now Iโm trying to play only Vanguard. Love Hulk but heโs reliant on my supports being capable for me. Great supports and Iโm killing it with Hulk. Otherwise I find it easier to tank with Magneto/Strange/Thor with sub-par supports. Think I got the most time on Magento.
Because a lot of reason:
1. Players want damage and think that means they are doing good.
2. Players do not want responsibility and tanking requires more than just standing and hitting.
3. People believe that โwell Duelist has more characters so more people will naturally go thereโ, when in reality, it doesnโt matter if we have 60 characters split evenly amongst roles, or 33 characters split unevenly amongst all roles, more players, especially BAD players will head to dps.
4. Tanks have a lot of nuance and can feel bad to play if you donโt understand who to choose and how to counter pick.
None, one or more than one can apply, but these are the reasons i see. Evidently this is why a lot of people also meme on DPS players.
the COD player in me just likes duelists more ๐ In ranked tho I main Hulk exactly because of what you wrote. He is a beast
I like Groot the most as Vangaurd and the most in general my fav hero ever lol
My main, Peni, is Vanguard… but I don’t really like playing Vanguard characters outside of her nearly as much, the dynamic is completely different for each of them. Peni is fun for me because it’s a character who sets up and builds traps, and as someone who likes characters like Engineer in TF2, just feels right. I think people who aren’t playing Vanguard characters are just seeking an archetype that they don’t represent yet, and you’ll see more of them as more get added.
I love playing magneto and bullying the backline with my RMB. though vanguard takes a lot of game sense to play. you have to play at the right spot. push too far and you wont get heals, dont push enough and the game will stall. but since it takes “some” thinking to play, not a lot of people play it because they dont wanna put in the effort of pressing more than 1 button. I used to play peni but right now the lobbies are 1-3-2 which is really unfun to play peni as a solo tank. magneto on the other hand, hard counters luna and cloak’s stalling ults, and semi counters wolverine.
I hit GM1 2 days ago playing nothing but tank (going for celestial), I plan on doing a “lessons learned” post but, to answer your question, its not easy and too much responsibility imo.
I find most of them boring, that is all
It’s my favorite for sure, I love Thor lately and have been pretty much exclusively playing him with fairly good results overall. He’s more of a Bruiser than a straight tank though although i still do fine solo tanking with him quite a bit. Sadly the only other tank I really enjoy is Magneto. Hoping Thing clicks with me so I have more options.
Started playing Doctor Strange in Plat because I kept filling into Tank and he’s quickly become one of my favorite characters to play. Actually a fair bit of carry potential with Strange.
Playing a bit more Magneto as well and it’s so fun one shotting a support through their ultimate. Planning to pick up Hulk/Captain America as well later in the season too.
I’m still trying to find a Vanguard I vibe with. The closest I’ve come is cap, but then I realized he’s like an off tank really.
I think a problem I have is: most of the support kits feel really dynamic and active. But I don’t get quite the same feedback with the vanguards that I’ve played so far. Imma keep trying though, I enjoy being a flex pick, so I gotta find at least a couple I enjoy.
sub tops unite
Tank was my best role in OW and I wanted to transition to Duelist coming into MR
I am a solo queue player and as duelist I am less reliant on the performance of my team but my own skill
However in higher ELO it becomes easier to flex because I feel more comfortable trusting the DPS at times
Would I climb faster if I were to focus on vanguard again? Maybe but tanks have less agency in this game
Because it’s hard. You can’t just dive in with Hulk and start smashing like you would expect from the comics, shows and movies. You get MELTED with Hulk if you try a 1v6.
Tanking requires knowing where the enemy is, where your healers are and where cover/health packs are at all times. Knowing when to give it gas and when to let off and peel. Good tanking is a craft that takes work. For the amount of work you put in as a tank to not even get MVP or a thanks from your team, it’s more enticing to just shut your brain off and get kills as DPS.
It’s a thankless job, but we do it and real players know we carry the team.
Its to the point i feel hardlocked as vanguard๐ every game its a instant 3-4 dps 1-2 healers & no vanguards. & if there is one its just groot. Thats my experience