I think anything you pay obscene amounts of money to in perpetuity with no expectation of those payments ever stopping is ultimately a scam.
If you’re in therapy for years and the only thing you have to show for it is new terminology with which to describe your various problems therapy is not helping you.
Plastic-Guarantee-88
5 days ago
Low IQ take. “Caring” is not their job. That’s your grandma’s job. Their job is to be an intelligent listener, provide feedback and ask tough questions, and provide perspective.
Similarly, I don’t think my masseuse loves me. I don’t think my cleaning lady loves me. I don’t think my dentist loves me. They are all doing a job that I find useful to pay for.
shellysmeds
5 days ago
What if I told you that your general doctor is not losing sleep over your declining health .
LemonPartyRequiem
5 days ago
Been to therapy, they just gave me different ways to describe what’s wrong with me with no real actionable steps. Spent a lot of money with no forward progress with life.
Maybe this is the difference between men and women but a lot of my male friends that went always said that they mainly don’t help with ACTUALLY improving your life. Just trauma dumping to a rando. I have friends that let me do that.
wildlifewildheart
5 days ago
Good mental health professionals DO care about the general well-being of their clients. Thatâs kind of the whole point.
UncleTio92
5 days ago
Definitely false. Sapphire would never do that to me
Aggravating-Wash5001
5 days ago
As a gen Z therapist these comments do not pass the vibe checkâŚ
yes, I need to make a living and get paid AND I do genuinely care about the well-being of all my clients!
NoahJRoberts
5 days ago
Anyone who actually thinks this fundamentally does not understand therapy or psychology
chief_yETI
5 days ago
this thread is a disaster
kdoors
5 days ago
They are trained to not get emotionally attached.
slothbuddy
5 days ago
This is not the same thing. The therapist probably *cares* about you, or their job would be miserable. Also unlikely they went through that much schooling and debt if they didn’t actually care about people.
However, your therapist doesn’t necessarily *like* you, but you’re not there to be liked because you’re also not there to make friends
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5 days ago
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Exotic_Resource_6200
5 days ago
Men go to strippers not because they think they love them but because they can clap their butt cheeks. I don’t talk to therapist because I think they care, I talk to them because of the knlowdge base of psychology.
Positive_Worker_3467
5 days ago
My therapist is great I was struggling a lot more before
Grumpy_McDooder
5 days ago
As with anything, finding a GOOD therapist should be the focus, not just any therapist.
It may take several tries to find a good fit for you.
For me, just asking friends whom I trust ended up being the key–having someone describe HOW the therapist was able to help them was super helpful in deciding who to go with.
Just1ntransit
5 days ago
Yaâll need therapy geez
AudioSuede
5 days ago
We need to get beyond the notion that therapy is meant to “cure” mental illness. It’s a treatment, and like treatments for physical ailments and disabilities, the amount you need can range from short-term recovery to lifelong management of a chronic condition. Good therapists save lives and help people deal with what can be debilitating issues. Shame on anyone who denigrates their profession.
IllBehaveFromNowOn
5 days ago
Not quite. I canât imagine someone going through all the trouble to become a therapist or psychologist without liking to analyze and help people through their mental issues. How many strippers can say they got into the business because they like stripping for men and their mental health issues? Money is always a major factor to anyone doing a job so itâs moot to bring it up as a comparison point.
potatogoblin21
5 days ago
Yeah no it’s a different thing, you do not on average believe that the therapist is in love with you and wants to start a life with you but these men do oftentimes think that about a stripper. A therapist’s job is to care about you as a human being not as a romantic option whereas these kind of men think that the strippers because they showed them some skin and danced around them are romantic options and care about them. Anyone who thinks that these two conflate to each other are actually just stupid.
RNCPR510
5 days ago
Roman Empire is my Roman Empire
StripperWhore
5 days ago
# I care about you guys
Responsible_Tree9106
5 days ago
You should be going into therapy with like an actual objective not just spinning the wheels
Also know where something comes from, or why you do certain things is not accountability itâs the first step
A lot of people do this thing where they acknowledge why do you certain things, or certain traumas which is beautiful
But then instead of holding themselves accountable or at least trying they use it as a crutch for shittt behavior allowing for the cycle to continue
NovelLongjumping3836
5 days ago
My thoughts on The Rapists??? Um, #NotCool is all I have to say!
Gatzlocke
5 days ago
I’ve read an AMA of a stripper who seemed to genuinely care for some regulars (not love/lust but a fondness)
I think most jobs where you interact with people, you can end up caring about them. Like when I worked at a grocery store there were regulars that you just end up friendly acquaintances over time.
So, it’s not a far stretch where a therapist will actually care, or even a stripper will care, if there’s just consistent human interaction.
ShaperMC
5 days ago
Idk, they’re a doctor who’s trying to help you get better. I don’t care if my surgeon cares about me as long as they do their job. Same with therapy.
Also, the language of “Psychiatrist” really shows that the person making this comment doesn’t understand the psychology field in general, as psychiatrists generally don’t engage in therapy as much as they engage in prescribing mental health drugs, of which even more so there’s less to “care” about the other person for.
SpecificPainter3293
5 days ago
I donât think people fully understand what a good therapist is meant to do. Their role is to support your mental health and guide you toward the best ways to support yourself.
So far, Iâve had two long-term therapists (both psychologists, not psychiatrists). Before committing, each of them had an initial conversation with me to ensure we were a good fit. We discussed their methods, my goals, and what âhealingâ would look like for me. They asked me how I would ideally respond to trauma, grief, or crises by the time our work together was done. An end to our work was always in the plan from the beginning and they made that clear. No leeching.
When my first therapist decided to take a break from practice, she told me she felt I was in a strong enough place to handle the transition. We had done good work and made good progress together and I definitely was in a much better place emotionally, mentally, and physically. She helped me prepare by coaching me on finding a new therapist and setting future goals, as my needs had evolved over time. I applied that knowledge when starting with my second therapist, who has a completely different approach and structure to our sessions. Despite their differences, both were as invested in my progress as I reasonably expected.
They assisted me with university accommodations, provided letters excusing absences when necessary, helped me create plans for myself, and connected me with resources, including diagnostic evaluations and welfare support if needed. However, they werenât going to show up and yell at my family for causing so much childhood trauma or offer me a place to stay. I know very little about their personal lives, and they donât ask irrelevant questions that donât pertain to our sessionsâthatâs a normal therapist-client relationship. They donât /need/ to think about you at all after the session. And honestly the fact that they get paid to listen to you rant and rave was actually solace to me as I could let go of feeling like a burden for pushing my issues on someone. I donât have to feel bad about complaining.
Through therapy, Iâve learned how to manage stress, cope with trauma and grief, and communicate in a healthy way. Iâm in a much better place than I was before I started. I feel more capable, more confident, but Iâm still learning and shaking off old bad habits and their support is very helpful in learning how to do so.
If youâre lying to your therapist, twisting the truth, assuming you know better than them, ignoring their advice, or trying to build an overly personal relationship with them, therapy isnât going to work for you. Different approaches exist, and traditional talk therapy may not be the right fit for everyoneâbut there are other options. Just like with any doctor, you need to be willing to shop around to find the therapist that works best for you. You need to be willing to say âI donât think this is workingâ if thatâs how you feel and finding someone else. Iâve gotten lucky but for others it can be a bit of a process to find a good fit. I think a lot of people brush off therapy as completely useless as a generalization, or because they have had bad therapists in the past, which is valid, however there are some great therapists out there and sometimes itâs not that the therapist is bad, just a bad match for you. Do research, ask questions, be comfortable being uncomfortable. Therapy is meant to challenge your perspective, not coddle you. Several times my therapists have had to stop me and say âthatâs not the question I askedâ because without even realizing I avoided answering something uncomfortable. I have had to admit to some absolutely embarrassing or inappropriate/shameful things that made me want to curl up and die but it was necessary that they knew so they could help me. They have had to call me out on bad behavior, when I both knew I was in the wrong or when I was completely unaware I was the problem. If you arenât ready to do that, and youâre not willing to eventually open up, itâs not going to work. I think a lot of people could benefit from therapy, but bias, anxiety, horror stories, etc. get in the way of people really embracing the process. And it truly is a process. Very much a gentle support, but you are eventually gonna get kicked out of the nest and be on your own. You learn what you can while youâre with them in hopes to be able to stand strong on your own, falter less, when their work is done.
belac4862
5 days ago
As a guy in therapy. I genuinely belive my therapist cares about me. In an intimate way? No.
But does she care about my well being and making sure I’m coping with my mental health. Absolutely!
Ok_Schedule8461
5 days ago
I think therapists are a bit more likely to care but there is likely a degree of truth to this.
Zombies4EvaDude
5 days ago
Too expensive. And idk if they work.
VampyFae05
5 days ago
They just haven’t found the right therapist, if the therapist is a bad therapist
Salty145
5 days ago
Therapy isn’t the be all end all that people make it out to be. A bad therapist can do more harm than good but a lot of people don’t realize this until its too late. There are good therapists, don’t get me wrong, and I’ve recommended some friends find one, but the solution to every problem isn’t to just “go to therapy”.
Also, therapy speak is wildly out of hand. People talk about gaslighting like its nothing and will throw the term at just about anything. Should be noted too that a lot of abusers will use therapy speak to further manipulate their victims and this goes for both men and women. There are whole rabbit holes to go down here.
Lastly, the goal of therapy should be to *fix* your problems which is obviously not always in the best financial interest of the therapist. That’s not me saying don’t trust them, but to the point the original post is making, don’t trust them to always be looking out for you. It’s up to you to be the driving force in your own therapy journey.
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this is definitely false đ
I think anything you pay obscene amounts of money to in perpetuity with no expectation of those payments ever stopping is ultimately a scam.
If you’re in therapy for years and the only thing you have to show for it is new terminology with which to describe your various problems therapy is not helping you.
Low IQ take. “Caring” is not their job. That’s your grandma’s job. Their job is to be an intelligent listener, provide feedback and ask tough questions, and provide perspective.
Similarly, I don’t think my masseuse loves me. I don’t think my cleaning lady loves me. I don’t think my dentist loves me. They are all doing a job that I find useful to pay for.
What if I told you that your general doctor is not losing sleep over your declining health .
Been to therapy, they just gave me different ways to describe what’s wrong with me with no real actionable steps. Spent a lot of money with no forward progress with life.
Maybe this is the difference between men and women but a lot of my male friends that went always said that they mainly don’t help with ACTUALLY improving your life. Just trauma dumping to a rando. I have friends that let me do that.
Good mental health professionals DO care about the general well-being of their clients. Thatâs kind of the whole point.
Definitely false. Sapphire would never do that to me
As a gen Z therapist these comments do not pass the vibe checkâŚ
yes, I need to make a living and get paid AND I do genuinely care about the well-being of all my clients!
Anyone who actually thinks this fundamentally does not understand therapy or psychology
this thread is a disaster
They are trained to not get emotionally attached.
This is not the same thing. The therapist probably *cares* about you, or their job would be miserable. Also unlikely they went through that much schooling and debt if they didn’t actually care about people.
However, your therapist doesn’t necessarily *like* you, but you’re not there to be liked because you’re also not there to make friends
[deleted]
Men go to strippers not because they think they love them but because they can clap their butt cheeks. I don’t talk to therapist because I think they care, I talk to them because of the knlowdge base of psychology.
My therapist is great I was struggling a lot more before
As with anything, finding a GOOD therapist should be the focus, not just any therapist.
It may take several tries to find a good fit for you.
For me, just asking friends whom I trust ended up being the key–having someone describe HOW the therapist was able to help them was super helpful in deciding who to go with.
Yaâll need therapy geez
We need to get beyond the notion that therapy is meant to “cure” mental illness. It’s a treatment, and like treatments for physical ailments and disabilities, the amount you need can range from short-term recovery to lifelong management of a chronic condition. Good therapists save lives and help people deal with what can be debilitating issues. Shame on anyone who denigrates their profession.
Not quite. I canât imagine someone going through all the trouble to become a therapist or psychologist without liking to analyze and help people through their mental issues. How many strippers can say they got into the business because they like stripping for men and their mental health issues? Money is always a major factor to anyone doing a job so itâs moot to bring it up as a comparison point.
Yeah no it’s a different thing, you do not on average believe that the therapist is in love with you and wants to start a life with you but these men do oftentimes think that about a stripper. A therapist’s job is to care about you as a human being not as a romantic option whereas these kind of men think that the strippers because they showed them some skin and danced around them are romantic options and care about them. Anyone who thinks that these two conflate to each other are actually just stupid.
Roman Empire is my Roman Empire
# I care about you guys
You should be going into therapy with like an actual objective not just spinning the wheels
Also know where something comes from, or why you do certain things is not accountability itâs the first step
A lot of people do this thing where they acknowledge why do you certain things, or certain traumas which is beautiful
But then instead of holding themselves accountable or at least trying they use it as a crutch for shittt behavior allowing for the cycle to continue
My thoughts on The Rapists??? Um, #NotCool is all I have to say!
I’ve read an AMA of a stripper who seemed to genuinely care for some regulars (not love/lust but a fondness)
I think most jobs where you interact with people, you can end up caring about them. Like when I worked at a grocery store there were regulars that you just end up friendly acquaintances over time.
So, it’s not a far stretch where a therapist will actually care, or even a stripper will care, if there’s just consistent human interaction.
Idk, they’re a doctor who’s trying to help you get better. I don’t care if my surgeon cares about me as long as they do their job. Same with therapy.
Also, the language of “Psychiatrist” really shows that the person making this comment doesn’t understand the psychology field in general, as psychiatrists generally don’t engage in therapy as much as they engage in prescribing mental health drugs, of which even more so there’s less to “care” about the other person for.
I donât think people fully understand what a good therapist is meant to do. Their role is to support your mental health and guide you toward the best ways to support yourself.
So far, Iâve had two long-term therapists (both psychologists, not psychiatrists). Before committing, each of them had an initial conversation with me to ensure we were a good fit. We discussed their methods, my goals, and what âhealingâ would look like for me. They asked me how I would ideally respond to trauma, grief, or crises by the time our work together was done. An end to our work was always in the plan from the beginning and they made that clear. No leeching.
When my first therapist decided to take a break from practice, she told me she felt I was in a strong enough place to handle the transition. We had done good work and made good progress together and I definitely was in a much better place emotionally, mentally, and physically. She helped me prepare by coaching me on finding a new therapist and setting future goals, as my needs had evolved over time. I applied that knowledge when starting with my second therapist, who has a completely different approach and structure to our sessions. Despite their differences, both were as invested in my progress as I reasonably expected.
They assisted me with university accommodations, provided letters excusing absences when necessary, helped me create plans for myself, and connected me with resources, including diagnostic evaluations and welfare support if needed. However, they werenât going to show up and yell at my family for causing so much childhood trauma or offer me a place to stay. I know very little about their personal lives, and they donât ask irrelevant questions that donât pertain to our sessionsâthatâs a normal therapist-client relationship. They donât /need/ to think about you at all after the session. And honestly the fact that they get paid to listen to you rant and rave was actually solace to me as I could let go of feeling like a burden for pushing my issues on someone. I donât have to feel bad about complaining.
Through therapy, Iâve learned how to manage stress, cope with trauma and grief, and communicate in a healthy way. Iâm in a much better place than I was before I started. I feel more capable, more confident, but Iâm still learning and shaking off old bad habits and their support is very helpful in learning how to do so.
If youâre lying to your therapist, twisting the truth, assuming you know better than them, ignoring their advice, or trying to build an overly personal relationship with them, therapy isnât going to work for you. Different approaches exist, and traditional talk therapy may not be the right fit for everyoneâbut there are other options. Just like with any doctor, you need to be willing to shop around to find the therapist that works best for you. You need to be willing to say âI donât think this is workingâ if thatâs how you feel and finding someone else. Iâve gotten lucky but for others it can be a bit of a process to find a good fit. I think a lot of people brush off therapy as completely useless as a generalization, or because they have had bad therapists in the past, which is valid, however there are some great therapists out there and sometimes itâs not that the therapist is bad, just a bad match for you. Do research, ask questions, be comfortable being uncomfortable. Therapy is meant to challenge your perspective, not coddle you. Several times my therapists have had to stop me and say âthatâs not the question I askedâ because without even realizing I avoided answering something uncomfortable. I have had to admit to some absolutely embarrassing or inappropriate/shameful things that made me want to curl up and die but it was necessary that they knew so they could help me. They have had to call me out on bad behavior, when I both knew I was in the wrong or when I was completely unaware I was the problem. If you arenât ready to do that, and youâre not willing to eventually open up, itâs not going to work. I think a lot of people could benefit from therapy, but bias, anxiety, horror stories, etc. get in the way of people really embracing the process. And it truly is a process. Very much a gentle support, but you are eventually gonna get kicked out of the nest and be on your own. You learn what you can while youâre with them in hopes to be able to stand strong on your own, falter less, when their work is done.
As a guy in therapy. I genuinely belive my therapist cares about me. In an intimate way? No.
But does she care about my well being and making sure I’m coping with my mental health. Absolutely!
I think therapists are a bit more likely to care but there is likely a degree of truth to this.
Too expensive. And idk if they work.
They just haven’t found the right therapist, if the therapist is a bad therapist
Therapy isn’t the be all end all that people make it out to be. A bad therapist can do more harm than good but a lot of people don’t realize this until its too late. There are good therapists, don’t get me wrong, and I’ve recommended some friends find one, but the solution to every problem isn’t to just “go to therapy”.
Also, therapy speak is wildly out of hand. People talk about gaslighting like its nothing and will throw the term at just about anything. Should be noted too that a lot of abusers will use therapy speak to further manipulate their victims and this goes for both men and women. There are whole rabbit holes to go down here.
Lastly, the goal of therapy should be to *fix* your problems which is obviously not always in the best financial interest of the therapist. That’s not me saying don’t trust them, but to the point the original post is making, don’t trust them to always be looking out for you. It’s up to you to be the driving force in your own therapy journey.