“And it’s not working for me” “figure it out buddy” weird argumentive phrases that are unnecessary… all he had to say was he missed her idk
higherthanhugh
3 days ago
It’s not working for me??? You better figure it out buddy???? Wow. Not overreacting at all. This is emotional abuse.
PolitelyUnhinged
3 days ago
NOR – he sounds like a narcissist.
This actually breaks my heart for your daughter. She should not grow up thinking it’s okay for men to speak to her this way.
She asked if he wants to call and he replied “don’t worry about it?” Like a 10 year old is supposed to understand those mind games?!? This makes me so mad
neverbetter069
3 days ago
seems like he needs to lose texting privileges with your kids. this is weird asf. only supervised visits imo. this feels hella manipulative
FutureCrochetIcon
3 days ago
Dawg sounds like a mafia boss during a shakedown😭 “You better figure it out, buddy” is a crazy way to be speaking to a child. You’re absolutely right and he’s a piece of shit. Are the calls court mandated? If not, I wouldn’t bother with continuing to expose the kids and honestly yourself to his shit behavior.
myaccountgotbanmed
3 days ago
From that exchange it seems like he wants your kid to respect him through being dictatorial. Not much relationship there.
Does he know how to treat kids?
sarahSERENADE72
3 days ago
He seems like he has some issues mentally.
jwhymyguy
3 days ago
He’s a dick
OkayButLikeWhyThoo
3 days ago
Giving weird Chester the molester vibes. Yikes.
Yohoho-ABottleOfRum
3 days ago
Sounds like a clueless guy trying to talk with a woman who he is dating that is pulling away from him and about to break up…
Strange relationship to have with your child…one that shows that HE is likely the one who has been disconnected most of the years growing up.
Chilling_Storm
3 days ago
How old are the children?
Your ex sounds like a massive douche.
Empower your children to be able to politely and firmly push back. He is trying to play the victim and dictator all in one. For example when ex says you haven’t called in a long time, he could respond with I was waiting for you to call me, daddy.
I think family therapy would help for your children so they learn how not to fall victim to his manipulations and insults.
Alphaghetti71
3 days ago
She’s 10? That’s awful. I wouldn’t even put this kind of guilt on my 25 year old. Not all thoughts need to be said out loud, and this goes tenfold when you’re talking to an actual child.
OP I’m so glad for you that he’s your ex, and I’m sorry your kids have other put up with this garbage from their own father.
atypicalfuture
3 days ago
you’re not overreacting. what a weird interaction. as an adult kids aren’t even responsible for the relationship they have with you. the hi daddy comment equally made me uncomfortable
Delanthonyx
3 days ago
He’s gonna mess up this kid.
tetrasomnia
3 days ago
This is how you get anxiety. NOR
Holiday-Calendar-541
3 days ago
Wow.. that’s some seriosly manipulative shit to pull on a 10 year old. I’m sorry OP
SpecialistPerfect207
3 days ago
“You better figure it out buddy” literally made me sweat a little. Send this man away.
DeanWinchestersST
3 days ago
Holy shit that is infuriating. If your ex won’t take advice on fixing that rotten ass attitude, it may help to take your child to therapy so that they can learn how to protect themselves from this behavior.
It is NEVER on the child to be the communicator. I am glad he is an ex!
CrankyPapaya
3 days ago
10 is old enough for you to explain why his messages are disrespectful, and that they don’t deserve to be spoken to like that by anyone. They’re probably old enough to realize it on their own, but you need to give them permission to stand up for themselves, that if Dad starts acting like this, it’s fine to grab Mom and ignore the cussing. Screen record his behavior and protect your kids. They deserve to feel safe, cherished, and loved in their own home. I might even go so far as to have these conversations outside, so after the ugliness is done, Dad’s terrible behavior isn’t lingering in the room.
HexingG
3 days ago
My dad used to do this “the phone works both ways” … we don’t talk now
bbanks2121
3 days ago
NOR.
Not much I hate more than parents being whiny babies to their own children. Grow the fuck up, man. We are supposed to be their emotional support and safe space, not the other way around.
A healthier approach would have been “I’d love to be able to connect more with you, when and if you’re up for it”. Putting the blame on the TEN YEAR OLD is so fucked.
PrincessRut0
3 days ago
Ew what. This is how an abusive boyfriend talks to their girlfriend, NOT a normal father/daughter convo. It’s gross, and also manipulative.
New_Weekend9765
3 days ago
My daughters dad talks to her like this as well. When she turned 18 she stopped talking to him completely.
Maybe try to set up specific times for phone calls, and make it clear that it is on him to do the reaching out. It’s so unfair for him to put this burden on your daughter.
Gaymer7437
3 days ago
Reads like my BPD parent’s texts would when I was younger.
Pear-Crumble25
3 days ago
Ew
breadaaaahh
3 days ago
He’s more childish than the actual child and this is just weird. I wouldn’t leave any children alone with this man
ivegotcharisma
3 days ago
This guy needs to go. Fuck him.
WeleaseWoderwick_
3 days ago
This isn’t how any decent person would talk to their child. This is manipulating and most likely making her fear him.
Odd_Requirement_6984
3 days ago
No one talking about
“What’s up baby girl” and “no “daddy”?”
klortle_
3 days ago
The fuck? Is he dating your kid? This language is disgusting. NOR.
freedinthe90s
3 days ago
Don’t make her spend time with him if she doesn’t want to. Never unsupervised.
AlisonPoole98
3 days ago
He acts like she’s the parent and responsible for his feelings
heirtoruin
3 days ago
This is what my father would do to me. I was a kid doing kid things with a stepfather who was there since I was 4 years old. Seriously, fuck this behavior. What an asshole.
True_Celebration7088
3 days ago
Wow. You are not over reacting. He is being ridiculous and disrespectful and demanding to a child.
OkLychee8545
3 days ago
Read the messages without reading the title…yikes😬
Carridactyl_
3 days ago
Trying to manipulate and belittle a ten year old is crazy work on his part
anilu12
3 days ago
This is gaslighting 101! Be mad, not just upset. He’s playing a game that needs to be stopped now (speaking from personal experience).
Stinkylilfrogbitch
3 days ago
You’re not overreacting, this is ridiculous. It is *NOT* a child’s job to establish and maintain a relationship with a parent. If he wants to call y’all’s child, he is perfectly capable of picking up a phone and doing that.
Evl-guy
3 days ago
He’s a dick. Shes ten. He needs a communication class. He’s the parent shes the child. He needs to learn how to be attentive to her needs. She shouldn’t have to figure out some secret handshake to deal with a “dick for a dad” just my opinion. Makes me winder if parents are together…..hes a “shitty communicator” so mom (OP) probably made a wise move long ago amd ditched that non communicative shit. (Sorry i dont like grown men who deliberately try to make young women feel small because the dude is some kind of child with obvious short comings.
Feisty_Cut_6980
3 days ago
Passive Aggressive mentally abusive – you could literally go to a child therapist to get backup and help for your kid on this asap – I did and low and behold ppl change their ways real quick when an unbiased professional is suddenly involved. This is icky and I’m sorry you and your child have to deal with this bs
DementedSwan_
3 days ago
NOA. In a couple of years your daughter won’t want anything to do with his melodrama and he’ll have nobody to blame but himself.
DrEskimo
3 days ago
Guy is desperate for social interaction and he’s taking it out on his kids what a pathetic loser
Mi_corrections
3 days ago
Unless he’s her biological dad I don’t think you should let him talk to your kids because that actually sounds very creepy the way he was talking to her.
But if he is her biological dad then it looks like they don’t actually have a relationship and he’s trying to force the ideal relationship of a loving child to their parent.
Definitely comes across like the narcissist you said he is and that all he cares about is himself. I’m sorry but it just came off to me like he’s trying to groom her and that’s not just wrong and inappropriate but super creepy. I hope you keep being momma bear and protecting your kids from him.
Jitterbug_0308
3 days ago
Gross.
StarsofSobek
3 days ago
OP, I’d honestly try to move these conversations to a family / co-parenting app. Something like, Our Family Wizard Co-parenting App, or Peaceful Co-parenting Messenger . It documents and records all messages and, if ever you need them for legal purposes or to show to a therapist, then you have them. Behaviors like this also can be admissible in court under psychological abuse, and these apps help document it.
Also, your child needs to have more of your support if you know and are aware of their father’s narcissistic behaviors. Giving so many confusing commands and feigning disappointment and interactions with them must be so confusing and even hurtful to deal with alone. Something as simple as:
– organising a weekly contact schedule
– informing your ex of the fact that you’re monitoring all interactions
– getting your kid in to see a therapist who specializes in parental abuse
Could all be very helpful things that support your child and their ability to navigate this relationship with their father more confidently.
AsbeliaRoll
3 days ago
My (26F) father did this to me throughout my childhood and would emotionally manipulate me this way as a kid. He could not separate me as a child from WOMEN. This showed up in a lot of ways as I matured (early btw) and I should have put him in prison. I hit puberty at 10, please keep her safe when no one did for me.
FUZExxNOVA2
3 days ago
He’s the adult. It’s his job to put the effort into being a father. No you aren’t overreacting. My dad did the same shit to me growing up. I’m almost 28 now and haven’t spoken to him since I was 16.
CathcartTowersHotel
3 days ago
No, he is the parent, he should be calling her not making her feel bad about it. He will lose her, too. Sorry you’re the only good parent. Good luck.
Poirotico
3 days ago
He can call her too, yes?
LifeOutLoud107
3 days ago
Uh no. He seems to think his CHILD is his equal in a relationship. That is not the case at all.
I’m going to ask the obvious. Is being emotionally immature pretty on brand for this person?
“And it’s not working for me” “figure it out buddy” weird argumentive phrases that are unnecessary… all he had to say was he missed her idk
It’s not working for me??? You better figure it out buddy???? Wow. Not overreacting at all. This is emotional abuse.
NOR – he sounds like a narcissist.
This actually breaks my heart for your daughter. She should not grow up thinking it’s okay for men to speak to her this way.
She asked if he wants to call and he replied “don’t worry about it?” Like a 10 year old is supposed to understand those mind games?!? This makes me so mad
seems like he needs to lose texting privileges with your kids. this is weird asf. only supervised visits imo. this feels hella manipulative
Dawg sounds like a mafia boss during a shakedown😭 “You better figure it out, buddy” is a crazy way to be speaking to a child. You’re absolutely right and he’s a piece of shit. Are the calls court mandated? If not, I wouldn’t bother with continuing to expose the kids and honestly yourself to his shit behavior.
From that exchange it seems like he wants your kid to respect him through being dictatorial. Not much relationship there.
Does he know how to treat kids?
He seems like he has some issues mentally.
He’s a dick
Giving weird Chester the molester vibes. Yikes.
Sounds like a clueless guy trying to talk with a woman who he is dating that is pulling away from him and about to break up…
Strange relationship to have with your child…one that shows that HE is likely the one who has been disconnected most of the years growing up.
How old are the children?
Your ex sounds like a massive douche.
Empower your children to be able to politely and firmly push back. He is trying to play the victim and dictator all in one. For example when ex says you haven’t called in a long time, he could respond with I was waiting for you to call me, daddy.
I think family therapy would help for your children so they learn how not to fall victim to his manipulations and insults.
She’s 10? That’s awful. I wouldn’t even put this kind of guilt on my 25 year old. Not all thoughts need to be said out loud, and this goes tenfold when you’re talking to an actual child.
OP I’m so glad for you that he’s your ex, and I’m sorry your kids have other put up with this garbage from their own father.
you’re not overreacting. what a weird interaction. as an adult kids aren’t even responsible for the relationship they have with you. the hi daddy comment equally made me uncomfortable
He’s gonna mess up this kid.
This is how you get anxiety. NOR
Wow.. that’s some seriosly manipulative shit to pull on a 10 year old. I’m sorry OP
“You better figure it out buddy” literally made me sweat a little. Send this man away.
Holy shit that is infuriating. If your ex won’t take advice on fixing that rotten ass attitude, it may help to take your child to therapy so that they can learn how to protect themselves from this behavior.
It is NEVER on the child to be the communicator. I am glad he is an ex!
10 is old enough for you to explain why his messages are disrespectful, and that they don’t deserve to be spoken to like that by anyone. They’re probably old enough to realize it on their own, but you need to give them permission to stand up for themselves, that if Dad starts acting like this, it’s fine to grab Mom and ignore the cussing. Screen record his behavior and protect your kids. They deserve to feel safe, cherished, and loved in their own home. I might even go so far as to have these conversations outside, so after the ugliness is done, Dad’s terrible behavior isn’t lingering in the room.
My dad used to do this “the phone works both ways” … we don’t talk now
NOR.
Not much I hate more than parents being whiny babies to their own children. Grow the fuck up, man. We are supposed to be their emotional support and safe space, not the other way around.
A healthier approach would have been “I’d love to be able to connect more with you, when and if you’re up for it”. Putting the blame on the TEN YEAR OLD is so fucked.
Ew what. This is how an abusive boyfriend talks to their girlfriend, NOT a normal father/daughter convo. It’s gross, and also manipulative.
My daughters dad talks to her like this as well. When she turned 18 she stopped talking to him completely.
Maybe try to set up specific times for phone calls, and make it clear that it is on him to do the reaching out. It’s so unfair for him to put this burden on your daughter.
Reads like my BPD parent’s texts would when I was younger.
Ew
He’s more childish than the actual child and this is just weird. I wouldn’t leave any children alone with this man
This guy needs to go. Fuck him.
This isn’t how any decent person would talk to their child. This is manipulating and most likely making her fear him.
No one talking about
“What’s up baby girl” and “no “daddy”?”
The fuck? Is he dating your kid? This language is disgusting. NOR.
Don’t make her spend time with him if she doesn’t want to. Never unsupervised.
He acts like she’s the parent and responsible for his feelings
This is what my father would do to me. I was a kid doing kid things with a stepfather who was there since I was 4 years old. Seriously, fuck this behavior. What an asshole.
Wow. You are not over reacting. He is being ridiculous and disrespectful and demanding to a child.
Read the messages without reading the title…yikes😬
Trying to manipulate and belittle a ten year old is crazy work on his part
This is gaslighting 101! Be mad, not just upset. He’s playing a game that needs to be stopped now (speaking from personal experience).
You’re not overreacting, this is ridiculous. It is *NOT* a child’s job to establish and maintain a relationship with a parent. If he wants to call y’all’s child, he is perfectly capable of picking up a phone and doing that.
He’s a dick. Shes ten. He needs a communication class. He’s the parent shes the child. He needs to learn how to be attentive to her needs. She shouldn’t have to figure out some secret handshake to deal with a “dick for a dad” just my opinion. Makes me winder if parents are together…..hes a “shitty communicator” so mom (OP) probably made a wise move long ago amd ditched that non communicative shit. (Sorry i dont like grown men who deliberately try to make young women feel small because the dude is some kind of child with obvious short comings.
Passive Aggressive mentally abusive – you could literally go to a child therapist to get backup and help for your kid on this asap – I did and low and behold ppl change their ways real quick when an unbiased professional is suddenly involved. This is icky and I’m sorry you and your child have to deal with this bs
NOA. In a couple of years your daughter won’t want anything to do with his melodrama and he’ll have nobody to blame but himself.
Guy is desperate for social interaction and he’s taking it out on his kids what a pathetic loser
Unless he’s her biological dad I don’t think you should let him talk to your kids because that actually sounds very creepy the way he was talking to her.
But if he is her biological dad then it looks like they don’t actually have a relationship and he’s trying to force the ideal relationship of a loving child to their parent.
Definitely comes across like the narcissist you said he is and that all he cares about is himself. I’m sorry but it just came off to me like he’s trying to groom her and that’s not just wrong and inappropriate but super creepy. I hope you keep being momma bear and protecting your kids from him.
Gross.
OP, I’d honestly try to move these conversations to a family / co-parenting app. Something like, Our Family Wizard Co-parenting App, or Peaceful Co-parenting Messenger . It documents and records all messages and, if ever you need them for legal purposes or to show to a therapist, then you have them. Behaviors like this also can be admissible in court under psychological abuse, and these apps help document it.
Also, your child needs to have more of your support if you know and are aware of their father’s narcissistic behaviors. Giving so many confusing commands and feigning disappointment and interactions with them must be so confusing and even hurtful to deal with alone. Something as simple as:
– organising a weekly contact schedule
– informing your ex of the fact that you’re monitoring all interactions
– getting your kid in to see a therapist who specializes in parental abuse
Could all be very helpful things that support your child and their ability to navigate this relationship with their father more confidently.
My (26F) father did this to me throughout my childhood and would emotionally manipulate me this way as a kid. He could not separate me as a child from WOMEN. This showed up in a lot of ways as I matured (early btw) and I should have put him in prison. I hit puberty at 10, please keep her safe when no one did for me.
He’s the adult. It’s his job to put the effort into being a father. No you aren’t overreacting. My dad did the same shit to me growing up. I’m almost 28 now and haven’t spoken to him since I was 16.
No, he is the parent, he should be calling her not making her feel bad about it. He will lose her, too. Sorry you’re the only good parent. Good luck.
He can call her too, yes?
Uh no. He seems to think his CHILD is his equal in a relationship. That is not the case at all.
I’m going to ask the obvious. Is being emotionally immature pretty on brand for this person?