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No way we can talk about actual finance?? Lets do it!

* Tesla saved half a billion in taxes last year using accelerated depreciation. Tax breaks for executive stock options shaved a quarter billion off the company’s tax bill. Unspecified “U.S. tax credits” were good for $300 million of tax savings. Musk’s company also used net operating losses to offset current year income, although it’s hard to know how much of that affects U.S. income rather than the company’s far-larger foreign income.
* Congress might give Tesla even more tax breaks. A bill passed by the House of Representatives in the previous Congress would have retroactively reinstated a provision allowing full expensing of research and development expenses which could save the company up to $2.4 billion in taxes.

That’s one of the things that I’ve found odd. A lot of people that very strongly support things like tax credits for EV cars, in order to fight climate change, will then turn around and talk about how terrible they are when they’re actually used. A lot of times people don’t seem to have a consistent view of what they actually want, and will be outraged by the results of policies they themselves supported.

DEI for white South Africans but no DEI for non white Americans. Thanks president Elon. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-orders-u-s-refugee-resettlement-of-afrikaners/

I love how she’s proving his point, i think he’s saying he shouldn’t be able to do that, but as it currently stands, it’s legal

This post is half true 2024 paid 0 dollars 2023 48 million paid in takes in 2022 0 dollars. It’s still pennies but just post the truth.

You know, every Dem POTUS candidate has run on tax reform of some description. There haven’t been a single tax reform bill brought to,the floor of either house.

They’ll close the loopholes for regular people; add more for themselves

This post is the prime example of people not understanding the US tax laws and just regurgitating Main Stream Media.

Net Operating Loss carryover. Available to all businesses in the US regardless of size.

Ditto for most of big tech. Amazon famously lost money for like 20 years then suddenly posted several billions of profits just a few years ago. Elon and others would be foolish to not take advantage every tax loop hole out there just as foolish if you or I failed to do so. The trouble is the tax code is highly focused on the individual W2 income as there is the cash cow for US Gov’t. Individuals can’t fight IRS and maneuver and frankly ‘hide’ income as large companies can. You think Biden’s 80,000 extra IRS workers were going to audit companies? Nope – think again, much easier, more successful audits, auditing individuals and everyone in IRS knows this.

Yeah but let’s cut 1 million to fema it’ll change ppls life 😅

Let’s not forget Musk’s generous income tax cut over that period.

Why no post the truth. Yes 2024 zero dollars in federal taxes. 2023 paid 48 million and 2022 zero dollars again. Yes barely nothing. But do the truth.

She actually proved his point. In a working tax system Tesla would NEVER be able to do that.

Loop holes are a right of stupidity

Tax those freeloaders.

Keep in mind both sides of the aisle wrote in the loopholes that allow this. This is not an Elon problem. This is an over bloated and corrupt federal bureaucracy problem.

People will keep moaning about capitalism and these shitty billionaires but will keep obeying them and will keep going to work tirelessly.

Democrats should attach a bill killing the carbon credits gas engine companies end up paying Tesla to any debt deal, effective immediately. Dare Republicans to kill it. Call your reps in blue states and demand it. Climate change is important, but killing Musk’s money takes priority. The credits are what keeps Tesla alive to the tune of a billion dollars a year.

You’d be the biggest fool around to not participate in tax avoidance.

Elon is right. The federal government needs to fix the tax code. Make companies pay taxes.

You shouldn’t BE ABLE to avoid taxes.

Right now? You can avoid them with a good lawyer.

Don’t forget about the billions in government subsidies. He is the one taking taxpayers money.

Freeloader

Hence why I support ending federal income tax – it’s just a complex scheme for tax lawyers to profit off of.

There’s so much brilliant human potential locked up in collecting & avoiding taxes.

Inflation is an invisible tax that takes no accountants, or lawyers to implement. Simply spend what you want to spend, print it, and we pay taxes via inflation.

Or, you can have your employer automatically deduct your taxes while they spend a billion dollars on lawyers to pay zero.

Everybody paying – is clearly not an option.

Sounds like we need to simplify the tax system.

Yeah he has to pay several accountants to navigate all those loopholes. Would be better for him if there was just one massive loophole that he could use for all purposes.

Have you as middle class, or lower class, or hell even upper middle class, used a tax loophole? I didn’t think so.

Elon: But I’m also a genius for exploiting those loopholes. LOOPHOLE

Think how much easier it is to get rich if you make a lot and don’t pay taxes.

I try to make 10% on the market every year but if I didn’t pay my taxes and put it under a mattress I’d make 30+ % a year so at least 3x the market. And they don’t do either or.

trump loves tax loopholes

It’s not helping the poor, it’s giving money to the people that say they’ll help the poor then go on trips and study the issue.

If the government had any sense of efficiency it would be obvious, but as long as they’re charging 8$ per Celsius to the taxpayer they can go fuck themselves.

You can’t trust the rich with billions but you trust the government with trillions

I don’t even get the EIC anymore, what fuckin loopholes are there for normal-ass people? Lmk I need some this year for sure.

Did they have losses that carried over from previous years?

Rather than agreeing with what you’ve been saying this entire time, you just throw out a lame gotcha zinger and miss the point. 

#elonmustdie

What’s not been mentioned is that Tesla is a multinational corporation and so most of its tax bill is through other countries. It might seem illogical to Americans and written a certain way almost criminal BUT it is in fact legit and would be almost tax malpractice on Teslas part if it did not do its taxes this way.

As for the original post it is not accurate.

I’m not saying it’s fair but Tesla is following tax laws. So rather than trying to make this something against Musk and Tesla it’s really about how multi national corporations pay taxes through other countries.

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So Tesla used the existing tax code, that the Biden administration had 4 years to change but didn’t even think about changing, to avoid paying taxes. Tax avoidance is not a crime.

Elon already said it, too many loopholes.

Tax reform is required.

So, Elon is telling you the system is messed up while paying zero taxes. He’s quite literally advocating for his company to pay more tax, and you guys are mad about it? That’s what you want, no? Or do you just want to hate anything Trump and Musk do whether or not it’s good?

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It’s amazing how bitter, jealous people choose to focus on attacking the successful (who are following the law or they would be being prosecuted, since the govt is so great and efficient, right?) rather than on the crazy spending & graft that same govt is trying to hide.

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