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I guess you get to save money on stash tabs considering how little loot you get.
They’ve been telegraphing this for years. PoE2 is not meant for PoE1 league enjoyers. Some folks are going to have a hard time with that.
Melee PoE 2 isn’t even Ruthless, it’s Dark Souls
I’m about to finish act3 and the entire time I’ve had maybe 30 rare items and 3 alchemy. My boots and rings are 30 levels old.
i mean, didnt you all expect this? did you not see the gameplay trailers?
I don’t think they “made PoE hard” or implemented Ruthless, I think they made PoE 2 with a specific vision. It’s a different game and I think they made the game that they really wanted to make. It’s difficult but it plays so well. Telegraphs are great. I’m having a blast with it! Feels like something new.
Enjoying it so far, like the changes and the pace.
What I don’t like is the utter lack of drops. I’m not looking for mirrors but the odd basic currency drop so that I can upgrade gear as I go would be nice.
That’s the only thing bothering me just now. If it’s too sparse and ruthless-lite like then I know despite liking the look, play and feel of it then I’ll shitcan it fairly quickly
It’s way better as there are many design elements that make the game flow much better in ruthless mode. Especially more scripted flights like bosses work really well.
But just walking around and killing mobs feels awful. I get that in the middle of act 2 we aren’t meant to be immortal gods but the balance does feel off. I think it’s mostly the area size and movement speed. If we could get some form of sprint where we get a lot more ms but get stunned on taking damage I think it would help a lot.
And doge roll not having phasing is terrible.
I dont dislike the difficulty and scarcity, but the constant need to dodge roll in boss fights really isnt fun. If players cant get mobility and strong defences yet then the low level bosses should be balanced accordingly.
As much as I hate dying, I do appreciate the difficulty of the game, though it is certainly overturned. The bosses are nicely telegraphed, requiring knowledge about their movements. The fights are not filled with stupid oneshot mechanics to increase the difficulty, at least it’s my experience until Act 2.
I just want more loot man
I think it is a compound isssue of 1) I dont know what a good item looks like in PoE2, and 2) I get to look at so few items its hard to tell. I can easily count with 1 hand the number of rare staffs I found by the end of act 2 on my monk, because it was 0. I also found 0 alchs, chaos, or exalts in this time so I had no way of ever upgrading my weapon. Playing melee just isn’t fun with this little gear. If the intent is to have multiple exalts drop per act so that we can roll gear ourselves maybe they should just be quest rewards and not RNG because a lot of people arn’t getting lucky and then are having a really bad time.
No way in hell i’m going to be running this campaign every league. I will stop playing.
To expand on this, I have run the poe1 campaign has to be over 100 times. each league I can only do 1 maybe 2 characters, keep in mind poe1 is a lot easier and I can get through the campaign in about 6-7 hours. Now POE2 from what I can tell is more like Ruthless, I love the slow pace but your extending the campaign at least 20-25 hours, no way am i playing that long on 1 character each league if you have to run though the same thing over and over. Just not going to do it.
You are alienating a large chunk of your users and I have to say being 43 years old myself that’s not good for the company since I have a lot of disposable income that I like to use on games. If you force me each league to run this I will not be buying your cosmetics. Love or Hate D4 they give you alternatives to leveling and I would rather play that for a couple of weeks and pay for cosmetics in that game since I will be having more fun and playing it a lot more.
I know GGG will never add alternative leveling since people have been asking for years in poe1 and it never happened but people will just not play as much and will be no point into buying your in game cosmetics. I just don’t understand why you can’t add something people have been asking for. What does it hurt? Your only getting more people to play your game which in turn means more money for you. Blows me away.
I have very little poe1 experience, but poe2 feels kind of exhausting. I haven’t been playing long, about 4 hours, but I chose monk and it just feels exhausting. I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or what but I feel like I’m putting out hardly any damage, I’m getting like 0 gear drops and even regular enemies take a ton of attention
Honestly I can see ggg making some changes to help with some of the “slog”.
1. They need to so something about the weird slowdown at the end of the roll animation. It makes it so it feels clunky vs just straight running.
2. Either give us some form of utility spd (quicksilver flask) or make our base walk speed faster because holy shit is it annoying to traverse the map. Having to full clear everything is rough when you walk this slow.
3. Scale up the rewards on magic/rare mob kills. Going through killing them and getting diddly squat is… annoying to say the least.
4. Oh and holy crap the lack of crafting options and currency to do things with it. Please ggg I get we are spoiled in poe1 but its brutal when you literally cant find a single upgrade and you are boned just trying to get a single useful dmg modifier on your gear or actually useful stats.
First time around this is fine but for leagues they might need to speed up the leveling and gear progression a bit (they do this in poe1). I am really enjoying the game but I think the above changes would go miles for people’s enjoyment.
Honestly kind of disappointed so far. Melee just feels awful to play. Leveled to 15 on a warrior and my basic attack felt more impactful than any of the mace skills. The skills are just way too slow when the bosses are running and teleporting around.
Sorc felt 5x stronger
Jonathan said that they’ve made currencies which add mods to items more common. For those who finished Act 1, how many of those did you find until the end of it?
I love the pace and combat but they 100% need to bump up the loot.
I really want to like the game. I played POE1 for years and wanted this to be something exciting, but it is really hard to like it when it drains the lifeforce out of you.
It’s an ARPG without an A. I played Grim Dawn or LE too, and they feel better.
If I play a warrior, I want to feel like a warrior. I want to jump into packs and fight. Not roll, roll, roll, attack, roll, roll, roll … in that case I would play DS.
The starter skills are a joke. You should not need to use your starter skill 3-4 times on a white mob and almost use all your mana
What I find most annoying is that the mobs respawn if you die. I can get behind it when it comes to bosses but I don’t think that the normal mobs needs to respawn. So annoying having to clear a zone again if you happen to die.
At level 33 and my crossbow is from level 16…. It was a breeze when I picked it up but damn
I still remember all the people who claimed that Ruthless was not going to represent the way the game would go in the future. Heh
Poe 1 feels better. The feels of poe 2 combat feels nice but tedious even killing normal white monsters at times. Also stuck alot when I would think i should be able to dodge roll Im just surrounded with no movement skills. I like the game but I am thinking 1 is the king and were ill stay until they speed up the game.
This game is ruthless on steroids. The difficulty is batshit insane. I get the challenge, but this is really taking it too far.
And that ‘you’ll be crafting you own gear as you go though acts’ was a lie. I got zero alch, zero regals, there’s no way to get a rare item that you can upgrade with exalts. Exalts are droping, but nothing else.
I’m really not enjoying the gameplay now.
Im having fucking blast, no zooming through maps, no fancy explosions all over screen. Just love to suffer.
I didn’t like the gameplay, dull and boring, in 1 day I lost the desire to play further.
Did you miss when they said that Ruthless and people’s reaction to it inspired their decision creating a new game? The meme should be more like PoE1 players pulling the wool from their own eyes. It’s a different game and GGG’s biggest mistake is calling it a sequel.
POE 2 = Ruthless-Like Game
Is there any damn way to generate power charge without landing a killing palm kill? I’m looking at a dozen abilities all wanting to consume power charges and no way to generate them without killing adds, and that itself is dicey because the cull window is so narrow, killing palm does no damage, and the melee attack to get the add low are more likely to kill it outright.
seems fucked.
I am not playing it yet- my partner is however- and so far this tracks. Lmfaooo
i will not change your mind because this game is honestly fkin dog water. i have 0 interest in dodge rolling again and again and again to have to roll 2 seconds into a 3 second long attack, dawg ive got a fkin job, im trying to relax and enjoy myself
I’m a poe1 vet, I had 4 friends who are good gamers but didn’t play Poe before and tried out poe2 today. Only one still has it installed and I honestly I’m not having a ton of fun so four out of five. Bad look
100% agree. Although it feels like Ruthless on steroids.
My Ruthless character in poe1 is 3 or 4 times more stacked than poe2. It’s like ruthless +++
I dont know why people are surprised about this? this is very foreseen and what everyone expected, its why i didnt use my keys, i have no interest in ruthless
I think poe2 is not for me, it almost feels like im playing a souls like game where spamming dodge makes me invulnerable. I always liked getting your Charakter someday to a op state if you play long enough. To maybe skip or brick some mechanics only because my build is going ham. And even if you dont like this fast pace gameplay you could play builds that are weaker to get your slower gameplay you want. The only reason why someone prefers slower gameplay in poe1 is because he cant reach builds like top tier Players, wich are farming twice as much loot as they are with twice as much investment because they have the builds to do that and the slow players dont.
It’s feel like playing dark souls, which i really dont enjoy. Poe 2 is very very slow, too hard and clunky as hell. I’m glad they divided the games cause poe 2 it’s one of those games that i hate with all myself
Yeah. I saw it coming but I’m still bummed about it.
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