A friend of mine- a really good overall dude and an incredibly smart nurse practitioner who I would want taking care of my own-
bought into the Joe Rogan talking points that the economy was getting shafted because of us supporting ukraine.
that we were sending millions in subsidies to them and getting little to no benefit
I tried to explain that its so important that russians lose because it will directly affect our and our allies security but he doesn’t see it
He also came to the frame of mine “isn’t it better for people to stop dying than to continue to fight?” and i lowkey had to stop having the conversation because i knew what the issue was and didnt want to be a dick
Americans are fucking weak. I don’t mean the gen Z’ers or anyone specific like that
I mean everyone from politicians to even ex military guys to kids to old folk- people are so up their own asses about “me me me” that we forgot why the world looks the way it does
we have been so used to hegemony for so long and enforcing it through proxies and one sided conflicts that people don’t understand what its like to survive a real war or have to fight in one.
We don’t get the idea that american dominance in the world has led to us having the easiest lives ever and having a standard of living that others would kill for.
People give a shit about the prices of eggs but fail to realize that only through collective defense and challenging antagonistic actors is how the western democratic world stays safe.
I’m no war hawk but how can you look at the war in ukraine and think “ya not our problem”
they tried to decry ukraine as a corrupt shithole of a country but fail to remember the Russian aligned government was in power for 20 years. Then when they risked losing that influence invaded crimea.
So many people on both sides of the isle are just so stupid and ignorant and weak.
Conservatives only want what’s beneficial to the economy unless they’re an oldhead nostalgic for the cold war
interest groups have more sway pushing america to arm israel than to arm a nation that’s having its soverivnty actively destroyed
we’re ignoring war crimes in droves
And americans are too “afraid” of russia to do anything. No one wants war, least of all me, but to not compare this to the appeasement policies of the 30’s is just silly.
If the US understood how important this was and if we had some balls we could have become the arsenal of democracy and evened the playing field long ago
But the US and the west is just so caught up in their own bullshit.
It feels like someone ignoring their family member being domestically abused because they “have their own shit to deal with”
And trump’s recent actions show he doesn’t give a damn about who wins- just that stock prices go up.
We literally were supposed to be defenders of the free world- the country and people who put down Nazi Germany but now we’re chasing dollar signs at any cost and cozying up to dictators we’re gonna have to fight eventually anyway.
Humble-Drummer1254
23 days ago
Place this under r/pics
Apparently I have been banned because I have commented on something that does not exist
Standard-Tailor-6195
23 days ago
1/3 of America is ready to kill 1/3 of America while 1/3 of America stands by and watches .. god damn.
LorenzoSparky
23 days ago
Trump also said that Russia has spent a lot of money and lost a lot of men to gain Ukrainian land.
What about the money used and men Ukraine lost to defend it?
The man is demented.
adron
23 days ago
I didn’t vote for that piece of shit, and yet just being an American I have to hold my head in disgrace. The dishonor and embarrassment of Trump is next level. His defenders are like a swarm of gas lighting lunatics that can’t shut up and are angry and sad too, even though they’ve won.
This has become one of the worst timelines imaginable and it’s even worse considering how many are so validly stupid to have voted for him AGAIN. I could even forgive one time, but a second is unforgivable.
I am sorry for my entire god forsaken two faced nation right now. America fucking sucks right now.
Canwoodman
23 days ago
100%
nunchucks2danutz
23 days ago
Trump is a totalitarian traitor to democracy. Him and his goons. But no matter what you do his goons won’t see it. They’re in denial and deluded.
I’ve been seeing the influence of Russia since 2012 and they started with RT on YouTube.
It’s a disgrace that we just let a Putin puppet become a King.
modogg63
23 days ago
How completely embarrassing having trump as the president. What a fuckin mess…
its1968okwar
23 days ago
Americans used to care about two things only:
– getting rich
– staying safe and comfortable
Now they care about Trunk being safe and comfortable and his friends getting rich.
jebus197
23 days ago
II think it’s becoming evident that the reason Trump wants to meet Putin alone, is that he wants to see if Putin can make him a better offer than Ukraine. (For Ukraine’s rare-earth mineral and gas resources in particular.)
Vegetable-Ganache-59
23 days ago
Here’s the thing.
The MAGA electorate only cares about about two things. *Triggering the libs*, and *TRUMP* (Peace upon him)
Anything else is a *distant* memory, lost in a fog of rage after they saw someone vaguely brown in the line at Costco….
ScroteMcTaint
23 days ago
If MAGA could read this they’d be very upset.
ohyeahsure11
23 days ago
Considering he negotiated directly with the Taliban during his first term, the people that voted for him are jumping for joy that he’s pals with such a “strong man” as Putin.
juanmlm
23 days ago
Trump had invited the talibans to camp david (when it came to light he canceled the meeting), and he’s the one who decided when the us would leave afghanistan.
His cult didn’t care.
After he lost, he joked about how the retreat from afghanistan was like a ticking time bomb for biden.
His cult cheered.
Crozius_Arcanum
23 days ago
No the fuck I did not choose him…. I didnt choose his fraud businessmen reality TV star ass in 2016 either. So many of my countrymen are so fucking stupid….
SavingsDimensions74
23 days ago
Ukraine is the only country in Europe that is battle hardened.
It also has direct experience of drone warfare, which is the new front.
Irrespective of your political leanings, you have a simple choice:
A) take the largest and most experienced army and increase your geopolitical influence
B) let Russia take all this and use it against you
It really is that fucking simple.
RickySal
23 days ago
As an American, I’m sorry for what my idiotic countrymen have done by electing a criminal who’s in cahoots with Putin. I hate that a large chunk of America loves Trump and seeing my neighbors express that boils my blood.
TheUknownPoster
23 days ago
How the Fuck do you think we feel? Finding out 35% of your adult populous Love them some Hitler. We feel betrayed, angry, and probably ready to burn it down. THATS HOW WE FUCKING FEEL!
Heimerdinger893
23 days ago
I have the answer: those 48.5% of us who didnt support Trump and voted AGAINST him felt like SHIT!
BillyYank2008
23 days ago
How do I feel about it? Pretty fucking angry and upset.
Money-Type-176
23 days ago
Trump is a douchebag! Trump likes to talk shit and talk about stuff he knows nothing about!
Maxi_We
23 days ago
Sadly the ones that should read this wont read this
BroBeansBMS
23 days ago
As an American, it feels fucking awful. There’s about 49 percent of us who are absolutely ashamed of what’s going on and hopefully that number will grow to the point where we can stop this national and international embarrassment.
Tomatosouce
23 days ago
I am not an American but suspect that part of the republican party think that russia is a white christian country with traditional values that defends itself againts liberalism. I know crazy and no amount of ruzzian atrocities will persuade them. They just dont care.
renegadeindian
23 days ago
Terrible! Dumpster surrendered to the taliban that attacked America under what musta been putins orders to get out of there. Same with Syria. That’s two surrenders to Putin. It’s disgusting that he is in control. He’s a B cowardly puppet that is lorded over by a little troll pervert. I hope that the rest of the world stands with you. Dumpster is weakening America for Russia it seems with his moves here. He is dismantling the military and firing people who run very important things. He will probably surrender Alaska this year. What a mess he has made everywhere
The answer is they don’t give a shit or care.
A friend of mine- a really good overall dude and an incredibly smart nurse practitioner who I would want taking care of my own-
bought into the Joe Rogan talking points that the economy was getting shafted because of us supporting ukraine.
that we were sending millions in subsidies to them and getting little to no benefit
I tried to explain that its so important that russians lose because it will directly affect our and our allies security but he doesn’t see it
He also came to the frame of mine “isn’t it better for people to stop dying than to continue to fight?” and i lowkey had to stop having the conversation because i knew what the issue was and didnt want to be a dick
Americans are fucking weak. I don’t mean the gen Z’ers or anyone specific like that
I mean everyone from politicians to even ex military guys to kids to old folk- people are so up their own asses about “me me me” that we forgot why the world looks the way it does
we have been so used to hegemony for so long and enforcing it through proxies and one sided conflicts that people don’t understand what its like to survive a real war or have to fight in one.
We don’t get the idea that american dominance in the world has led to us having the easiest lives ever and having a standard of living that others would kill for.
People give a shit about the prices of eggs but fail to realize that only through collective defense and challenging antagonistic actors is how the western democratic world stays safe.
I’m no war hawk but how can you look at the war in ukraine and think “ya not our problem”
they tried to decry ukraine as a corrupt shithole of a country but fail to remember the Russian aligned government was in power for 20 years. Then when they risked losing that influence invaded crimea.
So many people on both sides of the isle are just so stupid and ignorant and weak.
Conservatives only want what’s beneficial to the economy unless they’re an oldhead nostalgic for the cold war
interest groups have more sway pushing america to arm israel than to arm a nation that’s having its soverivnty actively destroyed
we’re ignoring war crimes in droves
And americans are too “afraid” of russia to do anything. No one wants war, least of all me, but to not compare this to the appeasement policies of the 30’s is just silly.
If the US understood how important this was and if we had some balls we could have become the arsenal of democracy and evened the playing field long ago
But the US and the west is just so caught up in their own bullshit.
It feels like someone ignoring their family member being domestically abused because they “have their own shit to deal with”
And trump’s recent actions show he doesn’t give a damn about who wins- just that stock prices go up.
We literally were supposed to be defenders of the free world- the country and people who put down Nazi Germany but now we’re chasing dollar signs at any cost and cozying up to dictators we’re gonna have to fight eventually anyway.
Place this under r/pics
Apparently I have been banned because I have commented on something that does not exist
1/3 of America is ready to kill 1/3 of America while 1/3 of America stands by and watches .. god damn.
Trump also said that Russia has spent a lot of money and lost a lot of men to gain Ukrainian land.
What about the money used and men Ukraine lost to defend it?
The man is demented.
I didn’t vote for that piece of shit, and yet just being an American I have to hold my head in disgrace. The dishonor and embarrassment of Trump is next level. His defenders are like a swarm of gas lighting lunatics that can’t shut up and are angry and sad too, even though they’ve won.
This has become one of the worst timelines imaginable and it’s even worse considering how many are so validly stupid to have voted for him AGAIN. I could even forgive one time, but a second is unforgivable.
I am sorry for my entire god forsaken two faced nation right now. America fucking sucks right now.
100%
Trump is a totalitarian traitor to democracy. Him and his goons. But no matter what you do his goons won’t see it. They’re in denial and deluded.
I’ve been seeing the influence of Russia since 2012 and they started with RT on YouTube.
It’s a disgrace that we just let a Putin puppet become a King.
How completely embarrassing having trump as the president. What a fuckin mess…
Americans used to care about two things only:
– getting rich
– staying safe and comfortable
Now they care about Trunk being safe and comfortable and his friends getting rich.
II think it’s becoming evident that the reason Trump wants to meet Putin alone, is that he wants to see if Putin can make him a better offer than Ukraine. (For Ukraine’s rare-earth mineral and gas resources in particular.)
Here’s the thing.
The MAGA electorate only cares about about two things. *Triggering the libs*, and *TRUMP* (Peace upon him)
Anything else is a *distant* memory, lost in a fog of rage after they saw someone vaguely brown in the line at Costco….
If MAGA could read this they’d be very upset.
Considering he negotiated directly with the Taliban during his first term, the people that voted for him are jumping for joy that he’s pals with such a “strong man” as Putin.
Trump had invited the talibans to camp david (when it came to light he canceled the meeting), and he’s the one who decided when the us would leave afghanistan.
His cult didn’t care.
After he lost, he joked about how the retreat from afghanistan was like a ticking time bomb for biden.
His cult cheered.
No the fuck I did not choose him…. I didnt choose his fraud businessmen reality TV star ass in 2016 either. So many of my countrymen are so fucking stupid….
Ukraine is the only country in Europe that is battle hardened.
It also has direct experience of drone warfare, which is the new front.
Irrespective of your political leanings, you have a simple choice:
A) take the largest and most experienced army and increase your geopolitical influence
B) let Russia take all this and use it against you
It really is that fucking simple.
As an American, I’m sorry for what my idiotic countrymen have done by electing a criminal who’s in cahoots with Putin. I hate that a large chunk of America loves Trump and seeing my neighbors express that boils my blood.
How the Fuck do you think we feel? Finding out 35% of your adult populous Love them some Hitler. We feel betrayed, angry, and probably ready to burn it down. THATS HOW WE FUCKING FEEL!
I have the answer: those 48.5% of us who didnt support Trump and voted AGAINST him felt like SHIT!
How do I feel about it? Pretty fucking angry and upset.
Trump is a douchebag! Trump likes to talk shit and talk about stuff he knows nothing about!
Sadly the ones that should read this wont read this
As an American, it feels fucking awful. There’s about 49 percent of us who are absolutely ashamed of what’s going on and hopefully that number will grow to the point where we can stop this national and international embarrassment.
I am not an American but suspect that part of the republican party think that russia is a white christian country with traditional values that defends itself againts liberalism. I know crazy and no amount of ruzzian atrocities will persuade them. They just dont care.
Terrible! Dumpster surrendered to the taliban that attacked America under what musta been putins orders to get out of there. Same with Syria. That’s two surrenders to Putin. It’s disgusting that he is in control. He’s a B cowardly puppet that is lorded over by a little troll pervert. I hope that the rest of the world stands with you. Dumpster is weakening America for Russia it seems with his moves here. He is dismantling the military and firing people who run very important things. He will probably surrender Alaska this year. What a mess he has made everywhere