Denying healthcare is violence

Healthcare ceos and directors need to be investigated for murder asap! A child dying of cancer because a oligarch wants a bonus is fucked up.

She’s the only elected official making this point, I think.

Thompson’s death does not make me particularly sad or disturbed. I have far more empathy for the tens of thousands of insureds who have died, whose families have suffered losses, who have experienced bankruptcy, due to UHC’s business decisions – one of which was to launch that AI algorithm that made errors 90% of the time (and was Thompson’s big project push), denying people life-saving care. I’ve been reading reports, lawsuits, etc., and have a very clear sense of how I feel about both UHC and Thompson.

When a system is stacked for those with power and they never face consequences for the harms they cause, desperation breeds retaliation from the people who are being squeezed. For me, the violence isn’t as messed up or upsetting as the system that is upheld and protected by the very wealthy in this country that has driven people to violent retaliation. That’s where I lay the ultimate blame.

I am sad for the people of this country. I am sad for the abuses so many endure at the hands of corporate America (and at the hands of the decision makers in those companies). I am sad we have built (and meticulously maintained) a system that has made people broken and desperate. I’m not particularly sad that a guy who was convicted of drunk driving, under investigation for insider trading (and sued by a firefighters’ pension fund for it), who chose to maximize profits at the expense people’s lives, paid a price. Actions and choices have consequences.

There’s a real issue with how defining radicalization is done, imo. The training that psychologically conditions soldiers to kill without emotional affectation is considered fine. If soldiers are killing people who are state sanctioned, then it’s morally supported, not radical. The Revolutionary War was illegal under British law, but we see it as a moral victory for this country. Revolutionary soldiers occasionally hid in bushes, under bridges, behind walls, flouting traditional warfare in favor of guerrilla attacks, and we applaud them.

And certainly Thompson will never be considered radicalized for knowingly signing off on numerous business practices (meant to enrich himself and his company) that lead to the deaths of thousands of UHC customers. That’s considered business as normal.

My reaction to news of Thompson’s death was basically the same as my reaction to all those Russian Oligarchs having “accidents” since the war in Ukraine started.

Cant scrounge up much sympathy for someone that’s enriched themselves generously by exploiting control over key services to squeeze everyone else. Perhaps the only people I can feel bad for are young kids who had no control over who their dad was but are now left without one.

If a CEO makes a policy that will result in a person’s inevitable death due to not receiving life-saving treatment, why would they not return the favor?

Bin Laden didn’t kill anyone. He made policies and plans that led to the deaths of many people, and no one in America minded when we spent over a trillion dollars hunting him down and killing him.

“When the rich kill the poor it’s called business. When the poor kill the rich it’s called violence” or some shit

Denying someone life saving healthcare is also not justified, just saying!

End the middleman. Reduce medical expenses for everyone and have universal coverage for all.

MEDICARE FOR ALL NOW.

When our twin’s birth and 4-day hospital stay were denied by insurance, they sent the $25,000 bill to collections. It was actually the collections agency that waited patiently, telling us that they were sure the insurance companies’ denial was wrong. After resubmitting all the same paperwork they claimed to have “lost” 4 separate times, the claim was finally approved after a year and a half in collections. Fuck insurance

If someone kills one person they go to jail or get executed.  

If they kill thousands a year they get a bonus.

Got what he deserved.

Lots of deleted comments.

Her underlying principle is valid.  Thousands of people die off because lack of insurance or a denial of claims.  Insurance Companies are publicly traded industry, which means their stock price is governed by their denial of claims. Denial of medical claims is a denial of medical treatments.  That literally goes against the Geneva Conventions.

Denying healthcare is rotten to the core. Pure evil. They kill or hurt many because of their dark business dealings. Scumbags!

Yeah, this is surprisingly tame for AOC. Denying a healthcare claim *is* violence.


I mean… yeah kinda if you stretch it a bit.

Violence is defined by Miriam-Webster as “the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy.”

And force defined as “violence, compulsion, or constraint exerted upon or against a person or thing.”

So… active denial of a healthcare claim is exercising force that causes injury or damage. It’s an act of violence.

The more I hear from and of her, the more I absolutely adore her!

The difference between pushing a knife into someone to kill them, and a surgeon ***not*** pushing a knife into someone to save their lives because an insurance company declined coverage to increase profits is all too often the same result – a dead person.

This is a consequence of a decision made by 2 individuals – in the first case, an assailant, and in the second, a corporation thanks to corporate personhood.

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Because it IS an act of violence. UHC and health insurance profits off denying us the care we desperately need to live. It’s violence to be held up in healthcare limbo only to be forced to live with debilitating diagnoses simply because the CEOs need to meet shareholder demands. Luigi was radicalized by the healthcare industry – and rightfully so.

Your employer pays a shit ton for your healthcare benefit. That’s your money that isn’t going to you to
as salary. Then you pay your premium on top of that from your wages. Imagine getting that as a salary and instead paying some more taxes to get coverage that doesn’t get denied. You’ll be coming out way ahead. That money is savings, could be a downpayment on the house, kids college funds, investments. Instead they scam us and then kill us. Violence isn’t just inevitable it’s overdue.

She’s right you know

AI should NOT be a healthcare insurance tool!! There are enough human ones!!!