Don’t see anyone using Mantis anymore. What happened?
Wednesday, 12 Mar 2025
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The 4th dash for cloak happened
We all learned we can’t hit headshots.
A lot of players don’t realize is she’s a healer meant to turn the tide of 1v1s. It’s just enough to win the battle you’re in and move on. Damage increases and heal over time should guarantee a win over an evenly matched player.
I still use her. I don’t care if my crit percent is 11, I got lord and I love playin as her
They began to fear magneto.
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The speed nerf she got this season just makes her less fun to use to me
people feel comfier with consistent healing therefore luna and dagger being chosen more. healing tanks with her feels so bad, wish it did it off of percentage of the target’s missing hp or something of the sort.
her getting a nerf to her ult next patch is crazy though.
I was a Mantis main in s0 but changed to Sue this season purely because having burst heals is more effective on teams with mediocre positioning and no restraint. If I was playing in a coordinated stack, I would love to still play Mantis, but I just don’t think she’s viable in solo play when everyone is ready to flame you because your 50 heal didn’t keep them alive while they’re being focused by 3 people. Similarly, I feel the lack of help *immensely* when I’m playing Sue and a Mantis is my other strategist, there just isn’t enough healing output so it feels like I’m essentially solo healing.
She’s not a primary healer, she’s more of a combo healer. She excels at pushing the team over the edge with heals and damage over time especially with dive units. I’m guessing that type of healer isn’t popular unless it’s the third healer?
They should revert the speed nerf. It didn’t make her OP but it made her more fun to play. She already has dog ass heals and the worst of the “immortality ults” (you can definitely get killed through mantis ult it happens all the time.
At least let her be fast.
She got some nerfs and is about to get *another* one. It’s hard for us Mantis mains out here rn
mantis requires good aim to be effective.
It’s partly a skill issue, you NEED to able to semi consistently hit headshots or your healing will be limited, and her ult is arguably the weakest of the 4 immortal ults
She’s still my favorite support and imo her immortal ult is the most balanced of the 4, if you can aim she’s extremely good if you can’t aim she’s extremely shit, that’s why CnD is infinitely more popular they have auto aim and higher overall healing output
Her healing isnt strong enough to keep people alive through focus damage or general stupidity. Once you heal someone what they do with it is completely up to them. Shes a much better 3rd support or flex dps but those are niche roles
She doesn’t provide enough heal, and that’s what it really boils down to. Luna/Cloak/Invisible Woman heals and ults are just significantly better, I feel like. Invisible Woman’s abilities are also just amazing. She can shield someone while healing them, she can push or pull, she can cut enemies’ team off with her vortex, she can heal through teammates while doing damage to enemies, and her ult is a big aoe that turns her teammates invisible, heal, and slow enemies while they’re in it.
Us against the world
Us against the world
And
Us against the world.
she’s a bug
Speed nerf, triple support makes her automatically near unusable in 2/2/2 cause the lack of ability to keep a tank supported
She’s still very good, most games I end up having more dmg than healing which is near 25k in damage alone.
If she’s played in triple support, using her as a pocket for your DPS can do wonders.
Invisible Woman was added to the game and seems to just be better. Heals more, has the same amount or more utility, and has a better ult.
She’s a difficult support to learn. I have lord on her and I can confidently say I’m one of the worst mantises (manti?) out there. Having to balance when to boost urself or heal others or boost others in the right moment can get draining.
But she’s hella cute and super fun soooo yay mantis!
You have to play aggressive and look for kills as her or you won’t get any value. You use her ult aggressively to chase into the back line and force an ult and headshot the healers. Or you can play cloak and dagger if you can’t aim
It’s scarce but they do exist. I got SNIPED with a sleep at one point and I didn’t even know the Mantis was there
Slow healing over time and she requires good aim.
Invisible woman is super popular and took over a lot of people. Cloak and Dagger also blew up with their buffs. Luna is also just a better MantisÂ
* C&D buff replaced Mantis as the #2 to Luna
* The speed nerf reduced her ability to be an aggressive flanker dps that made her popular
* With the above two point her skill curve rose sharply and overall perceived utility dropped
You see her a lot more the higher you climb, but usually as a 3rd support. Luna/cloak/IW just have better ways to “not die”
Strangely in comp matches tonight I saw her every match… Paired with Cloak and Dagger. That healing could not keep up with damage. I ended up switching off tank to play Adam Warlock so we could get some burst healing and I finally started winning matches.
I used to play her all the time and now I rarely pick her. I think it’s because no one plays dive heroes anymore. (Also, a lot of players don’t have the game sense to stay alive without an UNGODLY amount of healing). She is still a strong strategist, good utiltiy with damage boost and sleep, but players have relied on such high healing outputs that other supports are better picks.
I used to play Mantis ALL the time in season 0 and she is strong with dive/self sustain comps. Damage boosting dive characters is cracked. Now, no one plays dive heroes as much.
Plus you HAVE to hit headshots to have maximum value. I genuinely LOVED Lokis on the enemy team because I can farm headshots on their clones, and no one really plays Loki as much anymore either. Or I can just sleep someone and get 2-3 headshots.
I’m doing my part!
As a lord mantis who’s almost completely stopped using her since obtaining lord — I think you can just get similar output from other characters, easier.
She’s a tough character to play, and an off game will look a lot worse than an off game with cloak where you can still pump out tons of heals
I got lord with her she my main.
She got replaced by Sue after a week lol. Luna, Sue, Loki, and C&D are all better.
Mantis’ heal is too slow
I have tanks spamming for heals when I’m already healing them lol.
The short answer: she isn’t a healbot, and people want to be healbots.
I almost exclusively played her at the start of the seaaon but started dropping her as time went on. Her healing just wasn’t keeping up with the demand
I do. I use her. But I’m not a support main. I like her because she does a lot of damage and gives damage bonus to your teammates.
Her healing ability is passive and slow, so it works better when your teammates are good players who actually fall back and use cover when they are getting hit. But she is not very effective most of the time because most of you have the common sense of a wooden chair, and will just stand there and take damage and blame support for not pocket heal you 24/7.
She so slow now, cant escape some uti
Still maining her every day.
She basically has the same ult as luna snow so there’s no point in using her since imo luna is a better character overall
Mantis has lower healing output than all the other healers, her ult is just a weaker Luna ult, she takes more skill to use than all the other healers, and they hard nerfed her movement speed in the season 1 patch
Luna, C&D, and Invisible woman do the same thing but better
i realized i wasn’t playing her correctly and i can’t aim to save my life
Cloak was buffed and invisible woman came out
Her healing is simply too inconsistent and her ult is the weakest of the 4 defensive supports. In most situations it’s better to pick Luna/CD/sue. Same reason why Adam warlock is basically the lowest tier support in the game.
Cloak and dagger ult was buffed and invisible woman came out. They’re both better healers than mantis rn and their ults are both better.
Mantis and Adam both requires bain cells from the healer and the rest of the team.
Most players I have run into don’t want to think about any other player so your location and cool downs and if you are even able to get a heal off doesn’t matter to them and mantis being a HOT with a micro urat means everyone needs to play around her Adam is the same.
They are team based healers which shine in a team but really fall apart if the rest of your team is braindead.
The other healers the player on them needs a brain but the team can all share one brain and you can win.
Invisible woman joined the roster