‘EU vs USA’ stock market ‘Last Month’
Thursday, 13 Mar 2025
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Donny is killing the stock market without even implementering import taxes. just talking about it.
5 companies with only about a million employees combined (worldwide, not even just in the US) are about 23,5% of the entire US market cap. If the EU replaces these services over time I could see this trend continuing.
I would imagine a big part of that is from the defense sector, after the EU finally, after years of wishful thinking, realised relying on the US is not safe.
Thank you Vance (I guess?)
I guess the reason US was doing better than EU is all that soft power.
Money loves stability and everyone knows Trump is going to destroy the American economy. Anyone who believes Trump and the Republicans are going to be great for the US economy, has the intelligence and critical thinking skills of a mango.
When your investment and livelihood depends on the whims of some lunatic; the smart money is to move it away. It is so obvious yet people will be surprised when they discover that
There is a saying in Polish and it goes something like this- “harmony builds, conflict ruins.”
This happens because the US stock market is so heavily dependent on super over valued tech stocks. If the tech sector takes a hit, the US markets take a massive hit whereas European markets hardly feel it.
It’s the same reason that the US markets have boomed over the last decade, when tech stocks go up, the US performs much better.
Excluding tech, there isn’t all that much difference in the performance of the two.
For those in the US who missed the point: this is not about the EU outperforming the US economy (which it clearly isn’t).
What is happening is that companies in the US are being valued at a lower price following the dumpster fire that is the Trump administration. This is mostly due to declining investor confidence in the US. I work in Europe and I’m seeing companies and governments reassessing their dependencies on US firms and US infrastructure and finding alternatives.
I mean, c’mon guys: there is gorilla loose in the White House. Tariffs, threats of war, government institutions being torn down, alliances being torn down, rule of law being effectively sidelined…this is a nightmare for CEO’s, investors, government leaders, just about everyone not living in the US.
Who here honestly thinks all of this WON’T affect the US stock market?
If you are able, consider moving your money and pension from stock and index funds that primarily focus on US and move to European alternatives. The cheap money US companies have access to is a huge market advantage. It should be shifted back home to Europe
I’m not a stocks guy by any means, but I do believe that money talks more than loud minorities on the internet or TV.
So I took a look at how the stock markets have been doing over the last month.
The indexes compared are:
* Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI)
* NASDAQ Composite (^IXIC)
* S&P 500 (^GSPC)
vs
* Euronext 100 Index (^N100)
* EURO STOXX 50 (^STOXX50E)
* EURO STOXX 600 (^STOXX)
Trump really messed up his countrys stock market to really own the libs. Unbelievable lmao. Trump has fucked his country so hard I’d call it Rule 34
The American age is rapidly vanishing as America under Trump sinks further into chaos and disorder everyday.
Europe must be ready to embrace a new age where US influence over Europe evaporates as thin air, and shoulder up the responsibilities of safeguarding its security on its own.
Now compare it with like last 5;10;15 years. Investing in european indices lets say stoxx would probably have been your worst financial decision since buying a home in 2007/08.
For example in the last 15 years, nasdaq 10x, sp500 5x, dowj 4x. Stoxx 2x… Ftse hasnt even reached 2x since 2010….
MAGA /s
hope they get what they deserve for electing orange moron – simple as that.
Please let this drive up business for the EU and more partnerships. Maybe we can relax some of the ridiculous bureaucracy over here to speed that process up.
This is impressive until you realized that US stocks have consistently outperformed European ones for the past decade or more. The [NASDAQ-100, for example, is 7.2x bigger than the STOXX](https://curvo.eu/backtest/en/compare-indexes/nasdaq-100-vs-stoxx-europe-600?currency=eur).
5 american companies are worth more than the first 1.500 European companies by market cap. Its an absolute comical difference.
How much of the money invested in the US stock market is European? EU pensions funds and state funds, etc. should only be allowed to invest in European stocks, not American.
USA becoming small Russia at this point.
Zoom out
I hope orange man is enjoying his potus period because he’ll never be elected again afterwards
It would be great to add the dates of the most significant decision taken by the US and EU administrations.
Besides – and pardon my ignorance – are these real trends or fluctuations in the grand scheme of things? Does this have any consequence for the US – Russia so called negotations?
Hey but at least trans peoples lives are now more miserable
Feeling the greatness yet Trump voters????
As an investment banker in a EU country, a lot of my clients have sold off their USD stocks/funds to go into EU stocks/funds.
This is all part of their plan btw, tank the economy so musk and all his other tech bro millionaire cronies can buy the once public institutions for pennies, hospitals, police stations, public transportation, etc.
We are witnessing the total and utter oligarchisation of the US.
1 month is not good research, but it highlights diversification exists and why you shouldn’t put your life savings into just one country
Bro really Making Europe Great Again.
Guys, I understand the excitement but this is more due to the enormous growth in the US during the past 5 years. Like S&P500 has gone up 100 % in five years while EURO 50 alternatives have gone up 65 % (**including** the latest growth spurt) – both good numbers but America has done much better than us. At the same time dividends in the US have not gone up 100 %, and this makes the stocks very expensive in the US right now. Analysts expect to see kind of meh growth for the US this year so the stocks are not getting cheaper and the money is looking for other places to go to. With Europe showing small positive signs in the economy the market has figured that’s the place to stuff your money in right now.
I wouldn’t nitpick, I’m all about celebrating the downfall of the orange sockpuppet. But this is r/europe, not r/YUROP so I think there should be space for this kind of discussion as well.
These kind of arguments are prone to backfire. What happens when some time during the next 4 years the US stock market outperforms EU’s? Do we give credit to Trump for that? And by the way this chart is pretty useless if it doesn’t show the x axis.
Yes, let’s get hyped about data I don’t understand!
Can you show last 10 years?
Now zoom out
And what exactly does this prove now?
copium radiation levels abnormal…
Could be a correction of last years bull run, especially the last few months
Is it broken? Tell Russia to start a couple more invasions and then we will can see if works or not.
better call musk to flip that chart upside down