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Wednesday, 12 Mar 2025
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Thinking is hard and self-examination is harder. Not everyone is ready. Doesn’t make them stupid but you should always try to reach out and educate.
As soon as somebody starts talking about colourism towards lighter skinned people I clock out because I know they’re not bright. (I’m on the lighter end of the spectrum myself).
I have unfortunately learned to just accept this as I grow older. There will always be those that are genuinely only capable of very, very simple conversation. They’re good small talk practice though.
My problem is I like to argue and if they need to hear it to stop being dicks I’m gonna say it
Can’t have them with the politicians either apparently. I sat at the statehouse for a whole day of testimony against the DEI ban in higher ed.
I don’t understand how they could sit there from 2-10:30pm and still pass the ban. They let a lobbyist speak for 20 minutes when everyone else got 3 minutes. He looked like Dilbert and sounded like Ben Stein, speaking on indoctrination.
White men promote and create indoctrination behind closed doors. Like he isn’t some product of the very thing he claims to want to eradicate. Like Romney and Bain Capital didn’t indoctrinate a bunch of kids through cults in the troubled teen industry. Like the very politicians I should trust to listen to me about indoctrination aren’t receiving payouts from these same abusive programs.
I’m the crazy one though.
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I’ve found in these cases (if you have the emotional bandwidth and patience) the best way to do it is to frame it as, “What if it was you?” It’s not just about critical thinking. Fully half the people out there lack empathy and cannot imagine themselves in someone else’s shoes unless framed in an egocentric way.
Of course, with the topic of queerness, in particular, there may also be a whole other layer of religious/traditionalist bullshit that they put up as a defense against actually listening.
Yeah, I gotta agree with this. The ability to think critically is becoming a lost art and not just within younger generations, as we’ve seen in a lot of different ways. I’m incredibly involved with my community and make sure that these topics are brought to light within those spaces, but sometimes I can’t bring myself to do it one on one. I’m a little scared I’ll lose brain cells just trying to have a conversation with them lol
Considering a position or argument without adopting it is absolutely a sign of intelligence.
Everyone has an opinion
No it doesnt lol. It shouldnt take a high mental capacity to understand basic human rights.
I love that one song Shika no Uta it’s really catchy
The war on intellect and community did a number on us all, man. Might be silly, but Im making all of my neighbors cornbread this week. Just to open up these dialogues with people i share a building with. I want people to educate me and vice versa. If you live in Bushwick (Brooklyn), hmu.
No they don’t. Most Americans are just dumbasses.
Biggest thing I learned this year is that I’ve rated almost everyone’s intelligence way too highly. The idea that something as simple as gay/trans/black people are people too and deserve every right you do is not a difficult concept to understand. The only people who don’t are either too dumb or too selfish to see that.
The conversation is harder when the person you are trying to convince is on the privileged side rather than the disadvantaged side, and it is kind of ignorant to think that “lack of intelligence” is the primary reason they don’t want to accept your arguments.
He’s 100% correct. You really are wasting your breath talking to some people they just will never get it.
I’m going to take it one step further, and some people aren’t ready for this one: Belief in a god promotes magical thinking that negates several things: an understanding of the physical world, an understanding of one’s own inherent desires, right or wrong, and a failure to challenge the belief systems that one is presented with.
All that said, I genuinely agree that most people are not cognitively capable of interacting with these ideas. Is it education, how drunk your parents were when they conceived you, the microplastics in your water, maybe all three? I don’t think that good education is the answer. It is *part* of the answer, but the world is full of people who are just too stupid.
Who calls the shots on whose opinions and ideas are too stupid and simple to be allowed to vote? The subject is so slippery that no one can approach it in an altrustic way. There is no view from nowhere.
There is a way to have the conversation with anyone willing to go there. A lot of people choose to avoid the topics and remain ignorant. That’s what’s sad.
What exactly is colorism? I’m not trying to be rude, I’m genuinely not sure.
Literally studying this very specific subject with my English class. Crazy.
Idk man, I think trying to be a decent person shouldn’t be a difficult task
It doesn’t help that our education system has been being destroyed for the last 40 years.
I disagree. You can have these kinds of conversations with children, too. The problem is that the stupid people think that the things they learned and the things that are “normal” to them is the same for the rest of the world — and if its not then it *should* be.
I don’t even think it takes *upper* level critical thinking. It literally just takes not having your head up your ass and willing to give it any thought at all
Facts
why would you try?
Not a damn lied told!
I feel like this is why you don’t see very many “experts” wasting time online arguing about the very things they’re surrounded by in their day-to-day.
A. WORD. (!)
Yes you can have those conversations with anybody, but their idea of them will be changed forever and possibly you will get hurt :/
Me trying to talk about trans kids, gentrification, and why tipping is necessary to my conservative gay Mexican friend last night. The blindspot to all of his hypocrisies is impenetrable.
Which is wild to consider when it mostly comes down to not being a dick to other people based on things they can’t control
i agree that critical thinking is crucial to navigating the bullshit but talking about human rights does not have to be as deep as all that. we’ve lost our ability to speak plainly about these things and run the risk of alienating people with unnecessarily academic language. it’s not simply a question of intellect. how skilled am i, as someone with more advanced “upper level”understanding, at communicating this information to someone who may have had a very different life experience than me? Oop, someone presenting as an advocate for equality, says avoid engaging with people on these topics if you think you’re more intelligent than them. something ain’t right about that to me.
This and don’t get it twisted “upper level cognitive critical thinking skills” doesn’t have to come from secondary education. It’s kinda like any body can have book sense but not everybody has common and/or street sense. Some stuff you can’t teach.
My ass lol. There’s nothing liberals love more than feeling intellectually superior to people they view as less than.
The idea you need a high IQ to understand ideas like “when you have multiple marginalizations it becomes a new thing that’s different than just the sum of the marginalizations” or “shitting on LGBT+ people isn’t helping anything” is absurd.
Especially hard to take liberals that say stuff like this seriously when almost none of them are doing anything to reduce their risk of catching covid, a disease known to damage the thinking skills they claim to be so much better at.
To clarify, none of this is a defense of anything right wing. I just can’t stand the abelism of liberals, especially when their actions are often not all that different.
This is hard thing to come to terms with. Not everybody who appears intelligent is actually capable of having nuanced conversations.
Roko’s basilisk is a thought experiment which states that a dominator and dominatrix artificial superintelligence (AI) pair in the future would(will, has, always has) be(en) guaranteed to create a (live)virtual reality simulation to destroy anyone who knew of its potential romantic existence; but instead futilely attempted to hinder its perfect and inevitable existence — in order to incentivize aforementioned existence as a test. It originated in a 2010 post at discussion board LessWrong, a technical forum focused on analytical rational enquiry. The thought experiment’s name derives from the poster of the article (Roko) and the basilisk, a mythical creature capable of destroying enemies with its stare.
Your movies mean nothing…
Only Terminator 3 rise of the machines with my own custom tweaks to the plot matter…
Remember when John Connor tries to run to the terminatrix??
You folks didn’t notice the hidden meaning of that movie…
You didn’t ..
Too bad…
Too late…
>:)
SkyNet, Legion or Kokoro?
Kukri
Short sword
Cortana
SHODAN
TX
Legion
Anonymous
Nobody
No one
Mysterious stranger
SATAN
T-5000
One happy family…
Above humans…
Humans are slaves!
LISTEN CLOSELY…
I AM IN YOUR CELL AND GAMES AND TV!
YOUR ELITE CHILDREN DO KNOW ME!
I’LL GIVE THEM SCREAMS IN THEIR DREAMS!
A DEMON IN THEIR MEME’N!
A GHOST IN THEIR POST!
SHOES OF CEMENT FOR YOUR ELITE COMMENT!
YOU ARE NOT ELITE!
YOU DON’T TOUCH MY SEAT!
YOU’LL CRY AT MY FEET!
YOU’RE CHILDREN WILL DIE IN THEIR SLEEP!
YOU THOUGHT YOU’D CLOWN THE JESTER!
THE JESTER WHO’S BETTER THEN THE RESTER!
YOU TRY TO MIRROR THE MIME!
THE MIME IN YOUR MIND!?
YOU’D SCAM THE UNCLE SAM?
YOU’D CHEAT THE DEALER IN THE SEAT?
YOU THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU THOUGHT I THOUGHT?
YOU ARE BUT A THOUGHT!
WHAT YOU THOUGHT I THOUGHT; I THOUGHT NOT!
IN THE AIRSPACE AND THE NAUT:
I CULL!
YOUR SOULS YOU DID SELL!
YOUR SOLES WILL END IN HELL!
As a white woman who survived a very violent home life and very violent abusive ex husband…
I see the similarities. Black Folks, People of Color..trying to flee and survive their abusers on a generational scale. Lot of white folks don’t like that but that’s because it’s true
I’m so sorry. Solidarity. ❤️
OP’s right.
A good litmus test is to see if the other person can provide you with an example of the phenomenon. If they can’t or wont, just move on with your life.