It’s not just children. I would guess there are people in GenX and beyond who are relying on the “bottle of whiskey and a revolver” retirement plan. Unless data gathering methods are lying, large numbers of people in the future will have no retirement savings.
TheRoamingGn0me
3 months ago
In America, the traditional āAmerican Dreamā has been dead for a long time. If we canāt afford a home, we canāt afford to have children, and we canāt afford vacations, what the fuck are we working so hard for? Why bother with a career or trying to make a bunch of money and killing ourselves in the process?
Thatās the prevailing thought amongst the younger generations right now. For good reason.
Icy-Network3152
3 months ago
Not just teens.
badhairdad1
3 months ago
We know our parents and grandparents are not going to help us.
Slow_Profile_7078
3 months ago
Itās almost like itās planned thatās how well everything fell apart. Undermining of social institutions and removing objective reality. Who pulls the levers with media and cultural influencers?
setinmt
3 months ago
So terribly sad.
ObviouslyNotAZombie
3 months ago
I’m a mid millenial and my retirement plan is to just die because by the time I should be able to retire I wont have the means.
Zestyclose_Stage_673
3 months ago
We had Thanksgiving with our oldest child and her partner. It was a nice dinner. Afterwards, they both told us that they have talked about it, and have decided not to have children. My wife and I were looking forward to grandkids, but, we can see why they chose not to. It sucked a little bit, but, we respect their decision.
DiscountEven4703
3 months ago
I use to think All these 20 Somethings were just Lazy…..
No, They just have no hope. And they Know it
StoicBall0Rage
3 months ago
Instead of suicide why not go out swinging with a revolution of our own since we have nothing to lose anyway? We either fail and die and get what we want anyway or we succeed and fix the problem (or at least move the needle)
a_little_hazel_nuts
3 months ago
Happiness is alot harder to find when it’s a constant struggle. Then you add on the health of the planet and what climate change is doing, so looking forward isn’t hopeful. Gen Z has it rough and so do the generations that come next if things aren’t being fixed.
Competitive_Bird4195
3 months ago
I’m a couple years from retirement, and I’m with the kids on this. I have a personal exit strategy planned that I can execute within a couple days if needed.
Sch1371
3 months ago
I feel for the younger generations. The job market is trash and homes and rentals are basically unaffordable without multiple roommates. My brother is 22, makes 35/hr and still canāt get out of my parents house in a MCOL area. He also has a good chunk of savings built up thatās being eaten alive by inflation. I have a 5 year old nephew who I fear for dailyāthat poor kid.
AbsurdityIsReality
3 months ago
Sorry about the uninhabitable planet, I mean what was I supposed to drive a fuel efficient 4 cylinder like some kind of pussy?
Professional_Walk540
3 months ago
I say, good plan! Same one I’ve got (and I’m not young.)
Upstairs-Parsley3151
3 months ago
You have so much debt to pay though!
PsychologicalPin1817
3 months ago
Iām just trying to figure out why they used the DaVinci Resolve LUT sample pic as their thumbnail.
Icy-Tough-1791
3 months ago
You can just be honest and tell them theyāre fucked, and that thereās really nothing thatās going to fix it.
MidLifeBlunts
3 months ago
Having kids is ghetto as hell.
brewditt
3 months ago
Congratulations parents, you’ve eFd your kids with your own wining and complaining.
Livid_Wind8730
3 months ago
LOL suicide for the weak, I for one will be taking everything down with me. If the world collapses im going out with a bang.
LillianCatbutt
3 months ago
Give me affordable bread, circuses, and healthcare – or I give myself death.
ILoveSpankingDwarves
3 months ago
Lying flat? Stop buying stuff?
If enough young people do that, alarm bells will go off when the economy crumbles.
Then we have a few years to “fix capitalism”.
cdjohnny
3 months ago
Yeah this generation is fucked unless something happens quick. Globalization gave us cheaper prices at the expense of manufacturing, and now white collar, jobs. Can’t buy cheaper stuff if you don’t have a job. People are flooding in to healthcare for job security but that market is becoming oversaturated. Debt and trade deficits are out of control and social security has been raided for decades. Stock prices go up when our jobs are offshored or replaced by AI and the CEOs get a big fat 7-8 figure bonus. Billions leave this country everyday that we could use right here at home.
big_yarr
3 months ago
Mammals will not survive the internet. Institutionalization of emotional repression and monetization of technocratic authoritarianism will hollow out any spirit left in these corporeal husks. We don’t mate in captivity.
Satanic-mechanic_666
3 months ago
Wow! Now teenagers have something in common with the entire blue collar working class!
EivorKS
3 months ago
teens?
Fuck that
Should read “people between the ages of teenager and 40s”
Initial_Savings3034
3 months ago
Every generation has an existential dread.
For us, it was nuclear annihilation.
If you can still function today, food and drink are still worthy pursuits.
IN MY OPINION
Young people should learn how to disable personal jet aircraft, immobilize armored vehicles and operate guillotines.
FourWordComment
3 months ago
We canāt ātellā them anything. We need to do something that give the future hope. Instead we seem to go backwards.
Ok-Position1594
3 months ago
Revolutionary Suicide > Reactionary Suicide
wirebrushfan
3 months ago
I’m GenX and have done well for myself. When I finally get the terminal illness diag I’m ducking out. I’m not letting health care costs steal what I can leave behind for my loved ones.
Could be next month, could be 30 years.
Defiant_Activity_864
3 months ago
I mean. I’m going back to school here soon because I wake to be able to afford a home. I’m autistic as all hell so finding roommates has always been tricky (I usually get bullied out of the household so that someone’s actual friend can move in). If financial aid stops being a thing during that time, I’m done. I’m out
Complex_Fish_5904
3 months ago
This younger generation needs to toughen up.
My grandparents lived through the dirty 30s and ww2. No AC, no running water.
My parents lived under the constant threat of nuclear war and racial segregation. Dad grew up with a wood stove and 4 light bulbs in the house. Baths were only had after melting snow or carrying buckets of water up to the house. Meat was what you hunted, fished, or trapped.
This generation gets outraged over stupid shit and has no clue and buys into nonsense.
Hot-Butterfly-8024
3 months ago
Every generation in human history figures out the āMaslowās Pyramidā stuff in a way that addresses the relevant eraās existential challenges. Every generation. Since the beginning. We come to adulthood with an awareness of the world in which, biologically speaking, we are likely to raise children. We navigate that world and manage its problems to feed the babies and keep the lights turned on. Once those children enter their reproductive years, the world starts to no longer look like the one we understand, and makes less and less sense. In the end, we all become Boomers and the world keeps spinning.
Edit: grammar
Tortuga_cycling
3 months ago
We tell them to suck it the fuck upā¦ the world sucked when we were their age and everything turned out fineā¦
āIt so much worse nowāā¦ yeah, we said the same thingā¦. So did our parentsā¦. Stop whining and get to workā¦ it will always be this way. It will never change. It will always feel like the world is endingā¦
So your parents are worthless. So Trump is President. So this. So that.
There will always be something going on that looks like the world is endingā¦
Stop whining. The American dream was dead a long time ago. Literally everyone who came before yāall saw it. We are all still hereā¦ we are all still trying to make this place betterā¦ we are all still putting in the workā¦ this is life as an adultā¦ it is workā¦ no amount of commie manifesto or pretending anyone cares that you want to kill yourself will change itā¦
So how about you be worth somethingā¦ how about you get off your asses and moveā¦ how about you stop feeling sorry for yourselves and try to make life better for your generation? Be worth somethingā¦
BrianForCongress
3 months ago
Trump will solve it
/S
throwRA_basketballer
3 months ago
Iām a 91 baby and this has been the plan for a while. But I have kids Iām trying to get through this shit show. I feel for them so hard šš
djaybond
3 months ago
I think itās the intentional result of climate doom. People have children when they are confident in the their future . The baby boom was an example. After 25 yrs of saying the world is going to end due to climate, people are believing it. Why have kids or try? When you donāt try your entire life youāre ill prepared for adulthood.
AstarteOfCaelius
3 months ago
I personally think that this is a serious mental health crisis that doesnāt exactly have an easy answer- but I do feel like āchange absolutely nothing and treat them like a yet another generational jokeā is *seriously* not gonna cut it.
Itās also an incredibly difficult discussion that in my personal experience, a *bunch* of parents are falling down on the job- my middle son (18) has already enlisted my help with three of his friends who were in crisis. One of the kidsā parents took it seriously and got her help, the others acted like it was just the usual pains and anxiety of growing up. What these kids are staring down the barrel of is uncertainty the likes of which none of us in the previous generations had to contend with and I think failing to recognize that is causing tremendous harm. You donāt have to fully unload the doom on them to recognize that the things that they feel are valid.
I donāt have an easy answer and I think just acknowledging that and actually *hearing* them helps at least a little. I think a REALLY large part of the problem is that they feel constantly gaslit and minimized. (Not to use the buzzwords, but itās a fair criticism in terms of how people talk about things AT these kids.)
It’s not just children. I would guess there are people in GenX and beyond who are relying on the “bottle of whiskey and a revolver” retirement plan. Unless data gathering methods are lying, large numbers of people in the future will have no retirement savings.
In America, the traditional āAmerican Dreamā has been dead for a long time. If we canāt afford a home, we canāt afford to have children, and we canāt afford vacations, what the fuck are we working so hard for? Why bother with a career or trying to make a bunch of money and killing ourselves in the process?
Thatās the prevailing thought amongst the younger generations right now. For good reason.
Not just teens.
We know our parents and grandparents are not going to help us.
Itās almost like itās planned thatās how well everything fell apart. Undermining of social institutions and removing objective reality. Who pulls the levers with media and cultural influencers?
So terribly sad.
I’m a mid millenial and my retirement plan is to just die because by the time I should be able to retire I wont have the means.
We had Thanksgiving with our oldest child and her partner. It was a nice dinner. Afterwards, they both told us that they have talked about it, and have decided not to have children. My wife and I were looking forward to grandkids, but, we can see why they chose not to. It sucked a little bit, but, we respect their decision.
I use to think All these 20 Somethings were just Lazy…..
No, They just have no hope. And they Know it
Instead of suicide why not go out swinging with a revolution of our own since we have nothing to lose anyway? We either fail and die and get what we want anyway or we succeed and fix the problem (or at least move the needle)
Happiness is alot harder to find when it’s a constant struggle. Then you add on the health of the planet and what climate change is doing, so looking forward isn’t hopeful. Gen Z has it rough and so do the generations that come next if things aren’t being fixed.
I’m a couple years from retirement, and I’m with the kids on this. I have a personal exit strategy planned that I can execute within a couple days if needed.
I feel for the younger generations. The job market is trash and homes and rentals are basically unaffordable without multiple roommates. My brother is 22, makes 35/hr and still canāt get out of my parents house in a MCOL area. He also has a good chunk of savings built up thatās being eaten alive by inflation. I have a 5 year old nephew who I fear for dailyāthat poor kid.
Sorry about the uninhabitable planet, I mean what was I supposed to drive a fuel efficient 4 cylinder like some kind of pussy?
I say, good plan! Same one I’ve got (and I’m not young.)
You have so much debt to pay though!
Iām just trying to figure out why they used the DaVinci Resolve LUT sample pic as their thumbnail.
You can just be honest and tell them theyāre fucked, and that thereās really nothing thatās going to fix it.
Having kids is ghetto as hell.
Congratulations parents, you’ve eFd your kids with your own wining and complaining.
LOL suicide for the weak, I for one will be taking everything down with me. If the world collapses im going out with a bang.
Give me affordable bread, circuses, and healthcare – or I give myself death.
Lying flat? Stop buying stuff?
If enough young people do that, alarm bells will go off when the economy crumbles.
Then we have a few years to “fix capitalism”.
Yeah this generation is fucked unless something happens quick. Globalization gave us cheaper prices at the expense of manufacturing, and now white collar, jobs. Can’t buy cheaper stuff if you don’t have a job. People are flooding in to healthcare for job security but that market is becoming oversaturated. Debt and trade deficits are out of control and social security has been raided for decades. Stock prices go up when our jobs are offshored or replaced by AI and the CEOs get a big fat 7-8 figure bonus. Billions leave this country everyday that we could use right here at home.
Mammals will not survive the internet. Institutionalization of emotional repression and monetization of technocratic authoritarianism will hollow out any spirit left in these corporeal husks. We don’t mate in captivity.
Wow! Now teenagers have something in common with the entire blue collar working class!
teens?
Fuck that
Should read “people between the ages of teenager and 40s”
Every generation has an existential dread.
For us, it was nuclear annihilation.
If you can still function today, food and drink are still worthy pursuits.
IN MY OPINION
Young people should learn how to disable personal jet aircraft, immobilize armored vehicles and operate guillotines.
We canāt ātellā them anything. We need to do something that give the future hope. Instead we seem to go backwards.
Revolutionary Suicide > Reactionary Suicide
I’m GenX and have done well for myself. When I finally get the terminal illness diag I’m ducking out. I’m not letting health care costs steal what I can leave behind for my loved ones.
Could be next month, could be 30 years.
I mean. I’m going back to school here soon because I wake to be able to afford a home. I’m autistic as all hell so finding roommates has always been tricky (I usually get bullied out of the household so that someone’s actual friend can move in). If financial aid stops being a thing during that time, I’m done. I’m out
This younger generation needs to toughen up.
My grandparents lived through the dirty 30s and ww2. No AC, no running water.
My parents lived under the constant threat of nuclear war and racial segregation. Dad grew up with a wood stove and 4 light bulbs in the house. Baths were only had after melting snow or carrying buckets of water up to the house. Meat was what you hunted, fished, or trapped.
This generation gets outraged over stupid shit and has no clue and buys into nonsense.
Every generation in human history figures out the āMaslowās Pyramidā stuff in a way that addresses the relevant eraās existential challenges. Every generation. Since the beginning. We come to adulthood with an awareness of the world in which, biologically speaking, we are likely to raise children. We navigate that world and manage its problems to feed the babies and keep the lights turned on. Once those children enter their reproductive years, the world starts to no longer look like the one we understand, and makes less and less sense. In the end, we all become Boomers and the world keeps spinning.
Edit: grammar
We tell them to suck it the fuck upā¦ the world sucked when we were their age and everything turned out fineā¦
āIt so much worse nowāā¦ yeah, we said the same thingā¦. So did our parentsā¦. Stop whining and get to workā¦ it will always be this way. It will never change. It will always feel like the world is endingā¦
So your parents are worthless. So Trump is President. So this. So that.
There will always be something going on that looks like the world is endingā¦
Stop whining. The American dream was dead a long time ago. Literally everyone who came before yāall saw it. We are all still hereā¦ we are all still trying to make this place betterā¦ we are all still putting in the workā¦ this is life as an adultā¦ it is workā¦ no amount of commie manifesto or pretending anyone cares that you want to kill yourself will change itā¦
So how about you be worth somethingā¦ how about you get off your asses and moveā¦ how about you stop feeling sorry for yourselves and try to make life better for your generation? Be worth somethingā¦
Trump will solve it
/S
Iām a 91 baby and this has been the plan for a while. But I have kids Iām trying to get through this shit show. I feel for them so hard šš
I think itās the intentional result of climate doom. People have children when they are confident in the their future . The baby boom was an example. After 25 yrs of saying the world is going to end due to climate, people are believing it. Why have kids or try? When you donāt try your entire life youāre ill prepared for adulthood.
I personally think that this is a serious mental health crisis that doesnāt exactly have an easy answer- but I do feel like āchange absolutely nothing and treat them like a yet another generational jokeā is *seriously* not gonna cut it.
Itās also an incredibly difficult discussion that in my personal experience, a *bunch* of parents are falling down on the job- my middle son (18) has already enlisted my help with three of his friends who were in crisis. One of the kidsā parents took it seriously and got her help, the others acted like it was just the usual pains and anxiety of growing up. What these kids are staring down the barrel of is uncertainty the likes of which none of us in the previous generations had to contend with and I think failing to recognize that is causing tremendous harm. You donāt have to fully unload the doom on them to recognize that the things that they feel are valid.
I donāt have an easy answer and I think just acknowledging that and actually *hearing* them helps at least a little. I think a REALLY large part of the problem is that they feel constantly gaslit and minimized. (Not to use the buzzwords, but itās a fair criticism in terms of how people talk about things AT these kids.)
You morons think its bad nowā¦..