I’ve been following the immigration issue for decades and I’ve never seen the Feds arrest the folks who hired them, either. Is it any wonder?
Common_Assistance643
2 months ago
If they really wanted to tackle illegal immigration this would be the EASIEST way to do it. Put a few business owners in jail, the supply of jobs will dry up, and people will stop coming or self deport.
It’s certainly an easier solution to punish businesses found hiring/employing illegals than spending $100billion on a mass deportation/detention scheme.
BUT, the business owners are Republican voters 90% of the time. so it’s easier to throw a few “brown” people out for their base. than actually punish the source.
Agitated_Ad6162
2 months ago
Cause that would help solve the illegal immigration problem why would we go after employees that hire them!?
Formal_Dare_9337
2 months ago
Seriously, they need to also arrest the employers that hire these guys. Make them afraid to hire like this and anyone who came here illegally will shortly leave on their own.
Weird that there were still slave traders in 1906.
Regular_Eye_3529
2 months ago
let me guess, they came in on payday?
judith_zockt
2 months ago
Those are the real criminals.
hilvon1984
2 months ago
And I bet the raids from the feds just so happen to coincide with workers asking for better pay or work conditions…
Equal_Marketing_9988
2 months ago
My boss went 2 million into debt after she was found to have hired undocumented workers in her daycare. Not arrest but she definitely died in poverty w no money for pain meds when she eventually got cancer
C_Mack15
2 months ago
Well, job providers, don’cha know?
AlohaForever
2 months ago
Capitalism loves immigrant labor.
nomamesgueyz
2 months ago
Of course not
Money rules the world
Always has
Just that greed is more rewarded now
_reality_is_humming_
2 months ago
This is what I have been telling anti immigration people for decades now. The rich don’t *want* to fix the problem, they want to use it as a foil against us. They want to use it to drive down wages and they want it to exist so that they can have what amounts to legal willing slaves.
You could fix the problem of illegal immigration with 1 law. Just 1 federal law. If you get caught employing an illegal immigrant you are fined 250k.
SomethingElse-666
2 months ago
The company owners called the authorities to round up the illegal workers a few hours before they were scheduled to get paid…
Exaltedautochthon
2 months ago
Capitalists weaponize immigrants, they exploit their labor, while scapegoating them to the people who vote for them, swearing any day now they’ll get rid of the scary brown people, right as another busload of people making 2.50 an hour roll in.
2Autistic4DaJoke
2 months ago
We like to blame the guy that will be making sub-minimum wage to desperately try to feed his family, but not the guy who hired them or turned a blind eye to it
ilostmyeraser
2 months ago
You want illegal immigration problem solved 1000%. Arrest anyone who exploits them…I mean hires them…once thst happens…illegal immigrants will leave 1000%. But no…would never fine or charge an AMERICAN.
also….H1B visas is the new slavery..Jesus christ
Witty-Stand888
2 months ago
They just fined them. Then they would just hire the next bunch that came in or back. It’s a racket everyone is one the take or being exploited. Same as it ever was.
Herban_Myth
2 months ago
Finder’s Fee
fpsfiend_ny
2 months ago
Have them work for a year, don’t pay them, make them dissappear.
Free labor.
Come on now, we’ve seen this throughout history. Several times.
MangoSalsa89
2 months ago
They know deep down that these workers are necessary to keep the prices of things low, but they have to put on a show. They’re more than happy to let the employer do it all over again.
Fluffy-Structure-368
2 months ago
Can say the same thing about drug dealers or organized crime rings. This isn’t unique to illegals. This is just how things work for some reason.
DaMightyBush
2 months ago
Duh! It’s cuz illegals take jobs! The feds were just gettin’ em back.
DarthHubcap
2 months ago
Lmao, the company I work for got charged with child labor laws and undocumented worker the other year. Basically at some of the facilities they had 15 or 16 year old immigrant kids hired by temp agencies working on the factory floor with false papers and all. The company was fined 4.5 million dollars and that’s all the courts are going to do about it.
elizabethjane50
2 months ago
Like rounding up the prostitutes, but not the Johns.
AmbassadorExpress475
2 months ago
If we solve the problem then the cost of our food and housing will skyrocket.
Global_Match_6376
2 months ago
Immigration itself is an extremely difficult issue, and solving it is very difficult.
Mach5Driver
2 months ago
If anyone is serious about illegal immigration, they’d pass laws to arrest and imprison their employers. Heavy fines, personal asset seizures, etc. You’d have work visas handed out like candy after that. And then the only UNDOCUMENTED immigrants would be actual CRIMINALS
Aunt_Slappy_Squirrel
2 months ago
I worked corrections during this time. You want to know what i never saw? The general public or press when the plant owners and managers got sent to federal prison.
NoClipHeavy
2 months ago
I was at a meeting yesterday and two of the speakers told the crowd (people that hire undocumented) “plausible deniability” *wink wink*
ccusynomel
2 months ago
Well it definitely happens, here in Phoenix one of the biggest ones to happen was Danny’s Car Wash.
fgwr4453
2 months ago
Where are the mandatory minimums? What happened to being “tough on crime”?
CowUsual7706
2 months ago
I do not think that people who hire undocumented immigrants do anything morally wrong. Should the undocumented people starve?
GraniteCapybara
2 months ago
I’ve always just accepted it as truth and haven’t validated it myself, but this is my understanding of how it works. Technically there are fines against the companies that employ the workers. However, the company that ’employs’ them is usually a temp agency instead of the factory. The factory themselves often never actually see any of the fines.
In many of the Southern States it’s incredibly simple to set up a new business so they just close down the old temp agency and open a new one up in it’s place. The same staff but new letterhead.
I’ve heard stories about many of the temp agencies being owned by the cartels who are responsible for trafficking people cross the boarder to begin with. So when ICE seizes a couple hundred people they have several vans of new people in the next day and these large factories never even see a production delay.
No actual fine, no production delay, no actual consequences to the business and no actual reason to change.
It might be just conspiracy theory but seems believable given how business in this country works.
Desxon
2 months ago
I’m all for charging the people hiring illegals with the entirety of deportation costs on top of fines for doing it and maybe 2-3 months of minimum wage for the workers (for their troubles)
I’ve been following the immigration issue for decades and I’ve never seen the Feds arrest the folks who hired them, either. Is it any wonder?
If they really wanted to tackle illegal immigration this would be the EASIEST way to do it. Put a few business owners in jail, the supply of jobs will dry up, and people will stop coming or self deport.
It’s certainly an easier solution to punish businesses found hiring/employing illegals than spending $100billion on a mass deportation/detention scheme.
BUT, the business owners are Republican voters 90% of the time. so it’s easier to throw a few “brown” people out for their base. than actually punish the source.
Cause that would help solve the illegal immigration problem why would we go after employees that hire them!?
Seriously, they need to also arrest the employers that hire these guys. Make them afraid to hire like this and anyone who came here illegally will shortly leave on their own.
Benga had been purchased from native [African slave traders](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_slave_trade) by the explorer [Samuel Phillips Verner](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Phillips_Verner),[^([3])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ota_Benga#cite_note-3) a businessman searching for African people for the exhibition, who took him to the United States.
Weird that there were still slave traders in 1906.
let me guess, they came in on payday?
Those are the real criminals.
And I bet the raids from the feds just so happen to coincide with workers asking for better pay or work conditions…
My boss went 2 million into debt after she was found to have hired undocumented workers in her daycare. Not arrest but she definitely died in poverty w no money for pain meds when she eventually got cancer
Well, job providers, don’cha know?
Capitalism loves immigrant labor.
Of course not
Money rules the world
Always has
Just that greed is more rewarded now
This is what I have been telling anti immigration people for decades now. The rich don’t *want* to fix the problem, they want to use it as a foil against us. They want to use it to drive down wages and they want it to exist so that they can have what amounts to legal willing slaves.
You could fix the problem of illegal immigration with 1 law. Just 1 federal law. If you get caught employing an illegal immigrant you are fined 250k.
The company owners called the authorities to round up the illegal workers a few hours before they were scheduled to get paid…
Capitalists weaponize immigrants, they exploit their labor, while scapegoating them to the people who vote for them, swearing any day now they’ll get rid of the scary brown people, right as another busload of people making 2.50 an hour roll in.
We like to blame the guy that will be making sub-minimum wage to desperately try to feed his family, but not the guy who hired them or turned a blind eye to it
You want illegal immigration problem solved 1000%. Arrest anyone who exploits them…I mean hires them…once thst happens…illegal immigrants will leave 1000%. But no…would never fine or charge an AMERICAN.
also….H1B visas is the new slavery..Jesus christ
They just fined them. Then they would just hire the next bunch that came in or back. It’s a racket everyone is one the take or being exploited. Same as it ever was.
Finder’s Fee
Have them work for a year, don’t pay them, make them dissappear.
Free labor.
Come on now, we’ve seen this throughout history. Several times.
They know deep down that these workers are necessary to keep the prices of things low, but they have to put on a show. They’re more than happy to let the employer do it all over again.
Can say the same thing about drug dealers or organized crime rings. This isn’t unique to illegals. This is just how things work for some reason.
Duh! It’s cuz illegals take jobs! The feds were just gettin’ em back.
Lmao, the company I work for got charged with child labor laws and undocumented worker the other year. Basically at some of the facilities they had 15 or 16 year old immigrant kids hired by temp agencies working on the factory floor with false papers and all. The company was fined 4.5 million dollars and that’s all the courts are going to do about it.
Like rounding up the prostitutes, but not the Johns.
If we solve the problem then the cost of our food and housing will skyrocket.
Immigration itself is an extremely difficult issue, and solving it is very difficult.
If anyone is serious about illegal immigration, they’d pass laws to arrest and imprison their employers. Heavy fines, personal asset seizures, etc. You’d have work visas handed out like candy after that. And then the only UNDOCUMENTED immigrants would be actual CRIMINALS
I worked corrections during this time. You want to know what i never saw? The general public or press when the plant owners and managers got sent to federal prison.
I was at a meeting yesterday and two of the speakers told the crowd (people that hire undocumented) “plausible deniability” *wink wink*
Well it definitely happens, here in Phoenix one of the biggest ones to happen was Danny’s Car Wash.
Where are the mandatory minimums? What happened to being “tough on crime”?
I do not think that people who hire undocumented immigrants do anything morally wrong. Should the undocumented people starve?
I’ve always just accepted it as truth and haven’t validated it myself, but this is my understanding of how it works. Technically there are fines against the companies that employ the workers. However, the company that ’employs’ them is usually a temp agency instead of the factory. The factory themselves often never actually see any of the fines.
In many of the Southern States it’s incredibly simple to set up a new business so they just close down the old temp agency and open a new one up in it’s place. The same staff but new letterhead.
I’ve heard stories about many of the temp agencies being owned by the cartels who are responsible for trafficking people cross the boarder to begin with. So when ICE seizes a couple hundred people they have several vans of new people in the next day and these large factories never even see a production delay.
No actual fine, no production delay, no actual consequences to the business and no actual reason to change.
It might be just conspiracy theory but seems believable given how business in this country works.
I’m all for charging the people hiring illegals with the entirety of deportation costs on top of fines for doing it and maybe 2-3 months of minimum wage for the workers (for their troubles)