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Imagine thinking that it’s a good idea to not learn from past mistakes…
Hey Mr Pomeo. How’s life without that security detail that Trump revoked?
The founding fathers would have hung the J6 traitors for treason.
Going through school in the 60s & 70s…. we were taught they raped slaves, did genocide on the indians, and lots of other stuff. They taught us that back then, I’m sure it’s okay to do so now, too.
You took a post from facebook that was from twitter and put it on reddit?
In 1764 abolition was in full swing in Europe. The Somerset case started being cited in the colonies. It is no coincidence that the plantation owners got together and decided to protect their wealth, derived from continuing slavery in America.
The US national anthem was written with a verse about hunting down turncoat slaves. Those black men who fought for the British won their freedom.
They not like us
Second counterpoint: one of the main points of the constitution is that it can be changed because they knew it would need to be changedÂ
Ignoring it is working out so well for us.
I want to point out that ‘murdered by words’ is not changing anything.
If change wants to happen, it happens with us.
Memes are great…and funny, but if we want to make change then we must stand up.
Acknowledging your mistakes and learning from them is man 101. Admitting is the first step there maga
We could even teach kids that people arent binary and good people can do horrible things and we should always guard against blind faith and hero worship.
As a non American, I find it totally bizarre how the founding fathers are placed on such a high pedestal. It’s fucking weird!
Also, how US military personnel are revered. “Thankyou for your service” WTF?
Canadian here. Honestly, I think being confronted with truth makes us better people.
As an example, I remember watching To Kill A Mockingbird in grade 9 in the 1970s, and my kids watched the same movie when they were in grade 9 30!some odd years later. A powerful movie about racism, justice, and having the moral conviction to do the right thing. Whether the material makes us uncomfortable or not should not be what decides the value of the subject matter. The fact is, I don’t remember a lot of movies clearly, but those that portray injustice leave their mark on you and it’s a good thing.
You mean America is a flawed country because it was founded by men and not granted deification rights from watery bints throwing sabers around?
If we can’t learn from our mistakes, then why don’t we incorporate republican jesus teachings with his American disciples, the founding fathers?
What is the obsession with the nation’s founders being almost divinely perfect? What they did was incredible for their time: creating a secular democratic republic during a time where religion and monarchies ruled the homelands of the American colonists. But they were still flawed individuals working with flawed ideas.
Conservatism is about conserving traditions and beliefs. The American founders at their time were anything but conservative but somehow they’re viewed as antithesis to progressivism in the US.
Is our democracy not an in perfect union? The goal is improvement.
You cannot fix a thing you do not admit is wrong.
Literally no one was “good” in the past. Every country in the world today is built on blood. It’s ok to teach that. It’s needed if we are to grow as a society. We have to understand the horror we emerged from to prevent it in later generations. Or, like, I guess, just teach that we are the best and everyone else sucks and let history keep repeating itself, what ever.
If we don’t learn history, we don’t learn from history.
We can judge people based on the times in which they lived and mature and grow as a civilization too. It’s not that hard.
“If Germany teaches Germans that Hitler was an evil fascist genocidal maniac, it’ll really put a damper on the centuries of history Germanic people have.”
Mike whatever-his-name is, can’t even structure a sentence correctly.
We do not need to pretend any society is based on a perfect foundation, but we must aim to better ourselves, our country, and our world.
This the kind of dude who doesn’t have the maturity or humility to apologize for anything in his life.
IF it was not for black slaves, this country would not exist in it’s current form. They literally built the white house! They were the reason for becoming a huge exporter of all kinds of products for 100s of years and becoming rich! Can’t figure out why people want to simply NOT hear this and understand that it’s our history whether we like it or not.
The fouding fathers were hypocritical tyrannical greedy scumbag sacks of shit.
In the early 19th century, there was a lot of nation building happening, and people, teachers, thought it was a good idea to turn founding fathers into heroes for the school children. I get that, it makes a certain amount of dirty logic.
It doesn’t make any sense in the 21st century. Now we have valid reasons to be proud of America, and the founding fathers aren’t one of them.
I understand that it’s tough to give up the propaganda you were taught as a naive child. But it’s way past time to grow up.
What the hell is he trying to do with that punctuation?
Side note. Horrible content, but that original post has such ridiculous punctuation it doesn’t read correctly. I was waiting for the shoe to drop after the “if” sentence.
It’s really dangerous if people find out their country is the result of constant ongoing efforts to build a better and more free country?
Those are literally the foundation of our country.
This guy simply doesn’t like America.
Yeah it always works out when you hide stuff from people.Â
And we don’t always get it all right, but theirs no place else I’d rather build my life!
Rodney Akins
Iran hasn’t gotten this guy yet?
Mike’s a little slow.
We DONT teach that! The people just found out the truth.
History should not be sugar coated to protect the feelings of people with different levels of melanin in their skin.
The point of teaching the bad parts of our history is to make sure we don’t repeat them. The point of teaching a cleaned-up version of history is to make sure we do.
I was well into my 30s when I learned of the numerous compromises that went into ratifying the constitution. Those compromises should be taught in elementary school.
Those who don’t learn from history, are doomed to repeat it
They love the founding fathers when it comes to propping up racists, but ask them to respect the constitution, written by… guess who? Crickets.
These people are fucked.
Counterpoint: The founders new that things would change over time and literally built the entire fucking foundation of our country to adapt with the changing times. We were never supposed to live 100% in line with what the founders wanted in 1776 or when the current constitution went into effect in 1789.
I mean barely 150 years ago you could get 160 acres in California if you just got some buddies and formed a militia and “campaigned” for a couple weeks by just rolling around murdering natives.Â
Two weeks of terrorizing people the govt didn’t like and you got a land grant. So yeah, the country has a constant stream of darkness. But it can be better if we let it.Â
Trump’s suggestion is actual propaganda, that’s too bad for America.
Imagine if we lived in a world we didn’t push this false agenda that the reason you’re lying to people is because it’s to make them feel better and not because you want to get away with screwing over the American public and if they can accept your lie here they’ll accept it everywhere else.
A byproduct of White Christian Nationalism overtaking this country. They believe that America was divinely created by God and now believe Trump is basically sent by God. That’s why they think it’s ‘dangerous’ to question the founding fathers. It’s all culty now.
[Pro-segregationists came together to tear apart America by winning the churches with nationalist propaganda](https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/05/the-religious-right-formed-around-support-for-segregation-not-against-abortion.html). One of them was the same dude behind The Heritage Foundation (Project 2025).
I didn’t realize how poor Pompeo is at using words to write sentences. His writing is on par with a 4th grader who gets Ds in English.