Fun fact, the supposed 100 million figure also includes SS officers and Wermacht soldiers.
Thursday, 13 Mar 2025
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But on the other hand he says Hitler was a communist… Inception!
That’s weird, because in high school all I really learned about was the atrocities perpetrated by Germany. It wasn’t until I got to college that I learned about everything that Stalin, Mao, and others did. It’s almost like Elon is talking out of his fucking ass like usual
Authoritarianism is bad regardless of which end of the political spectrum it manifests on.
Seriously, if you’re ever compelled to defend dictators you’re doing something wrong. Further, if the closest you can do is “but he’s not as bad as that dictator” then *you know* you’re doing something wrong.
This 100m figure is from “The Black Book of Communism”. Several co-authors withdrew from the project because the lead author was obsessed with reaching that number, and would fudge all kinds of data to make that happen.
They even looked at decreases in birthrates, estimated children-not-born, and counted those as “deaths”.
You could apply the same methodology to India, a capitalist democracy, and reach 100 million.
His grandparents were Nazi’s and he openly supports Germans new Nazi party…
We need a Luigi; this guy is dangerous to our entire way of life by promoting this propaganda.
OK now do the number of people killed by capitalism!
Because seriously. Both systems can theoretically work just fine on paper, without introducing actual human beings into them.
There isn’t a single economic or political system under which shitloads of people don’t die. Partly because greedy, callous people always end up running things and getting a lot of people killed, but you also literally everyone dies, so if you stretch the timeline out far enough everyone dies no matter what kind of economic or political doctrine they live under.
Stalin, Mao, and other authoritarian regimes did kill many people. I’ve never seen an estimate of deaths that was close to 100 million. So it’s either a made up number or they’re throwing in a lot of unrelated deaths.
Look at some estimates of how many deaths capitalism has killed, it’s a lot too
I always hated this figure in particular *because* it includes actual Nazis and Nazi collaborators. Canada’s Victims of Communism memorial had 50-60 direct Nazi linkages, and up to 500+ potential Nazi linkages before revisions.
The American foundation dedicated to said subject includes the names of US and ARVN soldiers killed by the NVA… after the former violated the reunification treaty. In Spain wealthy landowners and the Church collaborated with Franco’s fascist coup because gov’t reforms were eroding their power, but they were victims when killed by the anarchists?
Stalin and Mao’s combined agricultural incomplete and state repression killed around 20-30 million people; you don’t need to inflate your numbers with Francoists or Ukrainian SS members to remind everyone that personality cult-led totalitarianism is bad.
I learned all about the failed communist states in college and university. Nothing was glossed over.
Stalin and his comrades did kill many millions of people. His brand of evil was on par with Hitler’s own. They both were awful men. Just so happens one of them was an ally of ours for a spell. War makes strange bed fellows at times.
The standard estimates of total deaths between Stalin’s programs and Mao’s programs are in the 50million to 60million range. Some are as low as 35M and others are high as 70M. Then roughly 5million german troops were killed by the USSR during WW2.
Pretty sure in my history classes where they actually taught history, we learned that communists under Stalin and Moa and Fascism were both REALLY bad (as was American Imperialism/Manifest Destiny).
Bruh my college professor just taught a whole semester on contemporary China and guess what? I learned, among other things, that Mao was an emotionally unstable narcissist who was incapable of self reflection or receiving criticism of any kind.
During my time at college, I also learned that the CIA had direct involvement in Operation Condor, a highly illegal covert operation in which members of right wing Latin American nations would send assassins to each others countries to silence dissidents for one another (30,000 people were killed and a cat bomb went off in DC)
You see, college is supposed to *teach you things* and when you learn you start to understand *nuance*, which is the opposite of propaganda.
Now do the numbers for authoritarians.
It’s pretty obvious why the oligarchs would be so anti-commie but not anti-fascist: while both authoritarian the fascists worked with the rich while the lefties took everything from them.
So anti-communism is a rich man’s stance.
No need to go full red anyway… tax the friggin’ rich LIKE THE US USED TO and you won’t have trouble paying the bills.
He Supports the AFD. That Fact Prooves that He is an extremist. Or even an Nazi.
Believe me: i am German. The AFD consists mostly of Nazis, WHO should BE in prison
Let’s talk about all the people who died under democratic “interventions” throughout the 20th century and are still dying today.
This lie isn’t being sold to intelligent people, it’s sold to their ignorant, useful idiot voter base.
People with two brain cells to rub together are well aware that the Black Book numbers were fabricated, because a few minutes of research reveals that the authors of said book later admitted it was fabricated and disowned it.
We also know, unlike the useful idiots of the right wing voter base, that a second book was later published in esponse to the first that does the exact same thing for capitalism, using the exact same “logic” to attribute the same number of deaths to capitalism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Livre_noir_du_capitalisme
Now do capatalism.
A Sociology professor I had was a Chinese woman who came to Los Angeles in the 60s to escape the Mao regime. She did not mince words about how bad it was. Furthermore, all my professors agreed that all the authoritarian socialist regimes were in fact bad. I had only ONE Marxist teacher in the 8 years when I was in school. Where does this narrative that colleges love Stalinist communism come from???
The estimated number of people who died under communist regimes during the 20th century varies among historians, but it is generally believed to be between 65 million and 100 million. These deaths were caused by political purges, forced labor, famine, executions, and other forms of state violence. Here’s a breakdown of some major estimates:
#By Regime
1. Soviet Union (Lenin and Stalin eras):
• Estimated deaths: 20–30 million
• Causes: Great Purge, gulags, forced collectivization, and man-made famines (e.g., Holodomor in Ukraine).
2. China (Mao Zedong era):
• Estimated deaths: 45–70 million
• Causes: Great Leap Forward famine, Cultural Revolution, political purges.
3. Cambodia (Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot):
• Estimated deaths: 1.7–2 million
• Causes: Genocide targeting intellectuals, minorities, and dissenters (25% of the population).
4. North Korea (Kim dynasty):
• Estimated deaths: 1–3 million
• Causes: Political purges, labor camps, and famines.
5. Vietnam:
• Estimated deaths: 1–2 million
• Causes: Land reforms, political purges, and war-related atrocities.
6. Eastern Europe (under Soviet influence):
• Estimated deaths: 1–2 million
• Causes: Political repression, purges, and labor camps.
7. Other communist regimes (e.g., Ethiopia, Cuba):
• Estimated deaths: 1–2 million combined.
#Key Causes
• Forced collectivization and famines: Often due to policies prioritizing state goals over people’s survival.
• Mass executions and purges: To suppress dissent and consolidate power.
• Labor camps (gulags): Harsh conditions leading to high mortality rates.
• Genocide and cultural targeting: Eliminating specific groups deemed enemies of the state.
These numbers remain subject to debate, as historical records can be incomplete or politicized. However, the consensus is that communist regimes were responsible for some of the largest-scale atrocities of the 20th century.
I mean we can play mental gymnastics and say communism didn’t kill those people but then you could do the same with everything. Nazi fascism didnt kill people, individuals killed peoples not the ideology 🙃🤸♂️
Huh. Idk about you but I was taught how the Soviets, Khmer Rouge, Mao, etc AND Nazis, Franco, Italians, etc were all uniquely evil and terrible. Oh and capitalist west too, before anyone starts
100 million figure comes from Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.
The vast majority of deaths under communist regimes were their own people. Just because you don’t like Musk doesn’t mean you have to turn your brain off or begin simping for genocide.
That figure does not include german soldiers. 80-100 million is number of deaths from communist crimes and it is not “nazi propaganda”.
Hijacking hate for elon to whitewash communist crimes is such a criminal thing to do.
No college is whitewashing what Lenin and Stalin did, full stop. I’m sure he has so much proof to back up this claim! /s. Then again, he doesn’t need it, MAGA morons will believe literally anything their dear leaders say so long as it matches their close-minded worldview.
Saying “Communism bad” isn’t Nazi propaganda.
While the 100 million figure came predominantly from a gross overuse of the highest possible estimates (among other dubious additions), the reality still remains that communism killed millions of people.
In large part this was unintentional. They put party members in charge of farming because they thought they were smarter than a bunch of dumb farmers. Millions starved.
Not to mention various purges of the population and outright genocide in Cambodia.
Killed by authoritarians abusing their powers.
Neither of these bad ideas for government
function without a tyrant ruler.
So communism and fascism are two peas in a totalitarian pod.
Same turds at the end of the day, different smells.
Pigs then and still pigs now.
This isn’t a good look guys. Stalin killed at least 20 million people. Roughly twice that of the Holocaust. That doesn’t make the Nazis’ crimes less horrific. Obviously what Elon is pushing is a complete lie, but don’t whitewash the Soviet’s crimes either.
I most certainly learned about this in college
Dead people are dead. SS officers, foot soldiers, prisoners of war, starvation of the lower classea from policies.
All these numbers are facted into it. Majoirty of the numbers are from mass starvation though.