I totally get that for companies, it is more profitable to sell a subscription. But as a consumer, I just don’t see how people would be able to afford so many subscriptions. If I paid for everything I use occasionally, I would put >100% of my paycheck towards subscriptions.
My personal rule is: I only pay a subscription for things that would also cause a recurring cost in the traditional way. (Like a cloud storage service, which is cheaper than a self-hosted NAS in the long run.) Most Software that is sold is not a service, but a product (like almost everything from adobe) and I will never pay a subscription for it.
nsefan
2 months ago
Subscription service for things with ongoing costs or genuine improvements could be justified.
Subscription for offline hardware that is unchanging is absolutely unacceptable.
PlusApps
2 months ago
What if you apply the same logic for all the products you buy? What if you buy a shirt but the owner ONLY allows you to wear it on monday? You will fell ok with that?
This world needs a reset asap.
Seebyt
2 months ago
You guys use paid software?
Mysterious_Focus6144
2 months ago
Just crack the software yourself
TrackLabs
2 months ago
Thats not a boomer complain lol. Thats simply a “Companies suck ass” complain
ThePeaceDoctot
2 months ago
Depends if the software should be able to run locally or not. Anything that needs to run on or access company servers should be subscription based, anything that I should be able to install as a local copy isn’t justifiable as an ongoing cost.
Ranshi922
2 months ago
Proudly a boomer on this matter.
mudokin
2 months ago
I think it all depends. I hate this too, give me a version that I can stick with.
But I also understand the companies. People are demanding constant updates and added features and you can’t get a software that is constantly pushing that out without paying for the ongoing development.
beatlz
2 months ago
Do people remember how it was before? You had to rebuy everything all the time because there were new versions. Now we’re simply getting micro new versions constantly (and forced to buy them 🙈)
The_Dukenator
2 months ago
For several months,we had people spamming,”Get comfortable not owning your games”. They took part of the quote, rather than the whole thing.
>”One of the things we saw is that gamers are used to, a little bit like DVD, having and owning their games. That’s the consumer shift that needs to happen. They got comfortable not owning their CD collection or DVD collection. That’s a transformation that’s been a bit slower to happen [in games]. As gamers grow comfortable in that aspect… you don’t lose your progress. If you resume your game at another time, your progress file is still there. That’s not been deleted. You don’t lose what you’ve built in the game or your engagement with the game. So it’s about feeling comfortable with not owning your game.
Its fun having to explain the difference between a subscription license and an ownership license.
PUBLIC-STATIC-V0ID
2 months ago
So buy once and pay for every update?
How do companies make it viable to pay once and use forever for product that is constantly worked on, and evolving?
Java_enjoyer07
2 months ago
Me a radical FOSS Advocate and Pirate. 🍷🗿
GM_Kimeg
2 months ago
Boomer solution: a nice and firm handshake.
Adn38974
2 months ago
Cancellable subscription and pay-as-you-use economical models, helps keeping track of customer satisfaction, and it helps keeping a cash flow for maintening software (cyber security, improving reliability).
Softwares are not washing powders sold on shelves.
xalaux
2 months ago
Obligatory fuck Adobe and fuck Autodesk.
RadikaleM1tte
2 months ago
Just link critic you want people to discard and put it in unpopular people’s mouth: boomers, nazis etc.
As if only boomers hate to be stripped off ownership slice by slice.
HaloWhirled
2 months ago
Buy never. Underwear is for noobs.
Rhonda_Exquisite
2 months ago
Okay, boomer. Let’s see if you really are!
l3wl3w00
2 months ago
So you are asking corporate soulless companies who only care about money to make their products cheaper, but give you more benefits
hipster-coder
2 months ago
Stop paying just once for my software. If I am maintaining it, I need monthly recurring revenue.
bhison
2 months ago
I really like how JetBrains have found a middle ground – you pay a year’s sub, you get a perpetual license for the software at the feature level the product is at when your sub lapses but at the same time they don’t have to do spurious updates “Rider 2023”, “Rider 2024” (which was basically the annual license model of yesteryear…) and they continue to patch security and stability vulnerabilities even on perpetual licenses
Edit: I just realised that absolutely DO release Rider 23, 24 haha but the point it you don’t buy a boxed product for each…
seabae336
2 months ago
That people should stop FUCKING censoring themselves online.
AppleSlytherin
2 months ago
They should all just do it like Ableton. Every few years you can buy a new version which has major upgrades but if you’re happy with the version you bought that’s it, you own it so you can just keep using that version forever.
Kaasbek69
2 months ago
This is why I pirate most software. Let me buy shit, I don’t want 500 subscriptions.
the-lazy-platypus
2 months ago
WordPress plugins are all sass, needed a SMTP plugin and it was $50/yr
PartyyKing
2 months ago
Certain software get regular updates and software devs need to get paid in those cases i understand that a subscription could be needed.
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I totally get that for companies, it is more profitable to sell a subscription. But as a consumer, I just don’t see how people would be able to afford so many subscriptions. If I paid for everything I use occasionally, I would put >100% of my paycheck towards subscriptions.
My personal rule is: I only pay a subscription for things that would also cause a recurring cost in the traditional way. (Like a cloud storage service, which is cheaper than a self-hosted NAS in the long run.) Most Software that is sold is not a service, but a product (like almost everything from adobe) and I will never pay a subscription for it.
Subscription service for things with ongoing costs or genuine improvements could be justified.
Subscription for offline hardware that is unchanging is absolutely unacceptable.
What if you apply the same logic for all the products you buy? What if you buy a shirt but the owner ONLY allows you to wear it on monday? You will fell ok with that?
This world needs a reset asap.
You guys use paid software?
Just crack the software yourself
Thats not a boomer complain lol. Thats simply a “Companies suck ass” complain
Depends if the software should be able to run locally or not. Anything that needs to run on or access company servers should be subscription based, anything that I should be able to install as a local copy isn’t justifiable as an ongoing cost.
Proudly a boomer on this matter.
I think it all depends. I hate this too, give me a version that I can stick with.
But I also understand the companies. People are demanding constant updates and added features and you can’t get a software that is constantly pushing that out without paying for the ongoing development.
Do people remember how it was before? You had to rebuy everything all the time because there were new versions. Now we’re simply getting micro new versions constantly (and forced to buy them 🙈)
For several months,we had people spamming,”Get comfortable not owning your games”. They took part of the quote, rather than the whole thing.
>”One of the things we saw is that gamers are used to, a little bit like DVD, having and owning their games. That’s the consumer shift that needs to happen. They got comfortable not owning their CD collection or DVD collection. That’s a transformation that’s been a bit slower to happen [in games]. As gamers grow comfortable in that aspect… you don’t lose your progress. If you resume your game at another time, your progress file is still there. That’s not been deleted. You don’t lose what you’ve built in the game or your engagement with the game. So it’s about feeling comfortable with not owning your game.
Its fun having to explain the difference between a subscription license and an ownership license.
So buy once and pay for every update?
How do companies make it viable to pay once and use forever for product that is constantly worked on, and evolving?
Me a radical FOSS Advocate and Pirate. 🍷🗿
Boomer solution: a nice and firm handshake.
Cancellable subscription and pay-as-you-use economical models, helps keeping track of customer satisfaction, and it helps keeping a cash flow for maintening software (cyber security, improving reliability).
Softwares are not washing powders sold on shelves.
Obligatory fuck Adobe and fuck Autodesk.
Just link critic you want people to discard and put it in unpopular people’s mouth: boomers, nazis etc.
As if only boomers hate to be stripped off ownership slice by slice.
Buy never. Underwear is for noobs.
Okay, boomer. Let’s see if you really are!
So you are asking corporate soulless companies who only care about money to make their products cheaper, but give you more benefits
Stop paying just once for my software. If I am maintaining it, I need monthly recurring revenue.
I really like how JetBrains have found a middle ground – you pay a year’s sub, you get a perpetual license for the software at the feature level the product is at when your sub lapses but at the same time they don’t have to do spurious updates “Rider 2023”, “Rider 2024” (which was basically the annual license model of yesteryear…) and they continue to patch security and stability vulnerabilities even on perpetual licenses
Edit: I just realised that absolutely DO release Rider 23, 24 haha but the point it you don’t buy a boxed product for each…
That people should stop FUCKING censoring themselves online.
They should all just do it like Ableton. Every few years you can buy a new version which has major upgrades but if you’re happy with the version you bought that’s it, you own it so you can just keep using that version forever.
This is why I pirate most software. Let me buy shit, I don’t want 500 subscriptions.
WordPress plugins are all sass, needed a SMTP plugin and it was $50/yr
Certain software get regular updates and software devs need to get paid in those cases i understand that a subscription could be needed.