I’m getting real tired of the ults that make the enemy team immortal
Wednesday, 12 Mar 2025
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here before invisible woman says “WE ARE INVISIBLE” and makes the whole team invincible and invisible
Nice argument, however
**MAXIMUM PULSE**
Daggers ult only makes her because team rarely steps into it.
Wait until you see Sue Storm’s ultimate which I am predicting it is going to be a giant dome force field.
**Me laying down my mines and nest in front of the C&D path that they ulted down three times already**
“US AGAINST THE WO–”
chill for 12 seconds then introduce them to the wrath of the goddess
Sorry I can’t hear you over all the
“HELL UNLEASHED”
“LEEEEGENNNDARY”
“MAXIMUM PULSE”
“ARMED AND DANGEROUS”
“BY THE EYE OF AGAMOTO”
“IIIIIIIIIIIIIITS SPIDER TIIIIIIIME”
“AGAIN”
“DONT MESS WITH THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN”
“WOO! I NEVER MISS”
“AGAIN”
“JUDGE JURY EXECUTIONER”
“BEHOLD! DARK CHILD”
“AGAIN”
I promise you as a C&D main, their ult is nowhere near as good as the other two. First off they have to actually get the thing down, and they don’t get i-frames so they can just get fucking murdered and waste it. Second the team members have to actually fucking stand in it, as it doesn’t just move with the character like the other two. It basically just makes C&D invincible for a few seconds, but they can’t chase anyone with that invincibility so the enemies can just back up a bit.
Don’t get me wrong, it has its uses and can really help take an objective. But it absolutely does not belong in the nerf conversation with the other two.
Us against the world does NOT make you invincible, with only 250 health if you shoot them with enough focus and teamwork they will be taken down
Sure but if you ban all defensive ults whats stopping the dps from just using ults and wiping the entire team? Is that more fun?
just go run behind a wall for like 12 seconds or so and then hit em with the ol’ your powers are mine 🙂
Oh your Cloak And Dagger make the team immortal? Every time I use it my team *flees* from it like they have a fucking allergy
Feels like shit when I’m 1 millisecond away from assassinating the entire backline and get hit with one of these
I really think ults just charge too fast.
Luna in general is ridiculous – the fact that she gets a better version of Mantis’s ult and a better version of Rocket’s ult at the same time while also just having the best support kit with the highest healing output (and thus fastest charge) is criminal. I know Luna is a dev’s personal OC and not strictly a Marvel comic character but it’s crazy what she can get away with.
All the girls are girling girling.Â
> How are you guys n gals n pals feeling about these ults?
Luna’s feels too long; aside from that this is how some support ults work.
You need to ult track, or pressure them out before you ult.
You could do like the top comment suggests and try Iron Man or whatever but tanks can severely limit or outright cancel these ults as well.
Ult tracking and some ults countering others is just how these games play out.
> I think some nerfs would help maintain the health of the game and reduce frustration
The game is about more than pew pew, nerfing support ults so DPS can just blindly ult through them would be really stupid.
Why is it fine for DPS to kill 2-3 people by pressing q but not ok for Support to be able to save said people?
I do agree in some ways that it just becomes a staring contest when one Luna ults and then the other Luna ults. Its just becomes a DDR contest and everyone is just head banging until its over. (Made even worse when there is a Mantis Ult or God forbid and Loki that just copies Luna ult) making it 12 seconds of absolutely nothing going on.
However, as a support main, I’m also inclined thatsome of these kinds of ults are necessary since Supports generally do not have a great way of creating space like DPS and Tanks do, since most of them time they are there just playing HP watchers, and their ults are really the only way to do that. Plus, its necessary in other ways because Supports typically don’t have the capacity to handle Divers with ults either if they dont have their ult in their pocket either.
Personally, I just hope that future ults for Supports aren’t going to follow in these footsteps since there is a pattern of lazy creavity that tends to go on with these kinds of games when it comes to ults. There are definitely other ways to accomplish the idea of Space-makers for Supports without the ability to stare at the opponent while they do nothing.
Laughs in PUUURE CHAOOOOOOOOOS!
Raging over a c&d ult. You GOTTA be sliver max. It’s abysmal dogshit compared to Mantis and Lunas ults
A healer having a mass healing ability makes sense. i think a lot of these proposed changes (in the comments) saying they should do anything BUT heal defeats the point of them being healers? i never really have big issues with mantis’ ult either besides that its boring to have two characters have the same type of ults
luna i just wish she got it less frequently and for less time. the healing output is fine to stay the same if it just wasn’t so constant and so long…. definitely have played games where it felt like luna was doing a world tour but the ability itself i don’t have many issues with especially considering how bad people are at actually staying in range
there’s nothing wrong with support having some bubble ultimates.
people on this sub act like dps should be able to just do their 1 button team wipe like psylocke without any counter.
I don’t understand complaints like this. “The enemy ult forces us to retreat and give up ground” like yeah that’s the point? Stopping the enemy’s advance is part of the game.
Bro I always hear these shits in a row, never separate like bruh you don’t need THAT much healing
All you DPS mains realize you can get crazy ult charge attacking these people while they are healing, right? Mad that healers get healer ults is crazy