I like to compare him to Charles Manson.he didn’t personally kill anyone but he’s responsible for them
EmporioS
3 months ago
Free Luigi ๐บ๐ธ
JacquoRock
3 months ago
Having been on the receiving end of the “I’m sorry, we don’t extend health insurance to type 1 diabetics” phone call…and being left to fend for myself for 2 and a half years without insurance…(translation: I had to pay retail prices for insulin WITH CASH)…this DOES hit a nerve. And with Medicaid and the ACA potentially at risk, even more so. Whoever said healthcare is a right and not a privilege is NOT the guy making $566 on a vial of insulin that retails for $568 and allows me to live another two and a half weeks.
aquagardener
3 months ago
If corporations are people, they can be charged with murder. Can’t have it both ways.ย
weahman
3 months ago
I’m so fucking fluent after this post. Thank you OP
16bitword
3 months ago
Ahhhhh finance
Boomslang505
3 months ago
Private jets and Parisian apartments tho
boldrobizzle
3 months ago
This is not finance.
CoconutUseful4518
3 months ago
I donโt think itโs quite the same
Overall_Meat_6500
3 months ago
The problem with this is, where do you stop? I guess the thing to do is just shoot anyone you think has wronged you. My doctor should have done a better job on my back surgery, so I guess I’ll go shoot him. The irony is, the same people that are crying about the mentally ill man being killed in the New York Subway are okay with the CEO of United Health being killed.
Nightcalm
3 months ago
Follow Richie Rich. The boy who couldn’t surf
Repulsive-Theory-477
3 months ago
Social Murder – A term coined by Friedrich Engels in 1845 and used to describe murder committed by the political and social elite where they knowingly permit conditions to exist where the poorest and most vulnerable in society are deprived of the necessities of life and are placed in a position in which they can not reasonably be expected to live and will inevitably meet an early and unnatural death.
Important_Hat2497
3 months ago
Do people die or go into debt?
Snowwpea3
3 months ago
You know you just get sent a bill when insurance denies your claim right? They donโt just let you dieโฆ. This is probably the most misinformed Iโve ever seen Redditโฆ.
Okichah
3 months ago
Is there actual source for how many โlife savingโ claims are denied?
hishuithelurker
3 months ago
This is the last time I’m up voting this…
rockguitardude
3 months ago
You’re entitled to get the care you need, you just need to pay for it.
-NoOneYouKnow-
3 months ago
โLook, if we paid all the claims people make weโdโฆ well weโd still be making obscene amounts of money but it would be less than the obscene amount of money we make now.โ
Striking_Computer834
3 months ago
There are different degrees of murder. Every state is slightly different and I can only speak to California, but it goes like this:
If a person acted willfully, deliberately, and with premeditation when they killed another person they are guilty of murder in the first degree. The person acted willfully if they intended to kill. The person acted deliberately if they carefully weighed the considerations for and against their choice and, knowing the consequences, decided to kill. The person acted with premeditation if they decided to kill before completing the act[s] that caused death.
The shooter committed murder in the first degree. The CEO did not. There’s still murder in other degrees that he may or may not have committed. For murder in the second degree, it goes like this:
If all of the following are true:
1. The person had a legal duty to help or care for another and the person failed to perform that duty and that failure caused the death of another person
2. When the person acted or failed to act, they had a state of mind called malice aforethought
3. The person killed without lawful justification
In cases where a life-saving treatment was not covered under the health care contract, the CEO does not have a legal duty to help or care for the customer. Without #1, there is no case for murder. In the case were a treatment is covered and the request was denied, then we have #1 and can go on to evaluate #2, and #3.
andrewclarkson
3 months ago
It really isn’t the same thing though. People have every right to be pissed off but that doesn’t make it right.
rikske243
3 months ago
The biggest problem are the shareholders. They put the pressure on th Co’s to make more money all the time
DeadSkullMonkey
3 months ago
Exactly
Careful_Swordfish742
3 months ago
If a rich person profits from your death, then it isnโt murder
Any_Profession7296
3 months ago
The pile of bodies in the bottom panel seems a bit small. Guess the artist couldn’t fit them all in.
isthenameofauser
3 months ago
“White-collar license.”
Particular-Winner308
3 months ago
Iโm here for the comments!!!! ๐
Zathail
3 months ago
A grand total of 0 of those rejected claims would have even been looked at by the CEO. I expect you all to start calling for the murders of the employees that actually process the claims.
WhiskeyEjac
3 months ago
Insufficient eyebrow volume in this depiction.
Nobadi_Cares_177
3 months ago
Ugh, I hate that it sounds like Iโm defending that piece of shit human being, but itโs not the same.
There is no obligation to help people. Insurance is a service that people pay for, and thus it can be refused without โbreaking any lawsโ.
Itโs a business to make money. They donโt care about us. They donโt have to help us. They are not legally responsible for us like a parent is to a child (which is why neglecting a child is a crime but neglecting customers is not).
Having said that, there certainly are consequences for not helping people. While those consequences may not be legal, they still exist.
Neglect enough people, and this is the result.
But the shooting was a crime.
Better would be to find a way to screw them over while not breaking the law like how they do to us.
However, I believe โdonโt do the crime if you canโt pay the timeโ and โyou reap what you sowโ certainly can be applied to both sides of this situation.
MrZrazies
3 months ago
I like to think other way to not to be called serial killer and spend life in prison instead and do this way and get money and live free.
WookieeCmdr
3 months ago
His practices that cause deaths weren’t actually legal either. He just had better lawyers
Swimming_Muscle76
3 months ago
U killed there oligarch Duke of course your life doesnโt matter in a oligarchy dukes are corps and your a slave thatโs how that works oh well
Medium-Pride-1640
3 months ago
Technically there’s no such thing as “legal murder” because murder is “unlawful killing”. For a killing to be “murder” it literally has to be against the law.
There’s just murder and lawful killing.
zavtra13
3 months ago
I like the term, white collar murder, it just fits.
r0bm762
3 months ago
Why are we still talking about this?
Apollo838
3 months ago
So when you choose not to help people on your way to work that may potentially die had you helped them, are you killing them? or if you donโt put 100% into your job or take longer coffee breaks, are you stealing?
I hate insurance companies, and at times I do think what they do is murder, I donโt think itโs as drastic as most people want to think, and no, walking up and shooting someone is not the solution
gabberfart
3 months ago
cops cant find shit unless there’s a rich asshole thats the victim
AsHperson
3 months ago
Where do oil company CEOs fit on this list?
bshaddo
3 months ago
Still murder. Across the board.
Ok-Investigator6898
3 months ago
Clearly insurance needs government oversight. It seems like it would be easy to cheat people. (They would be cheating people, not kill as the paranoid comments suggest.)
But, to respond that murder is justified… there are some seriously morally bankrupt people out there. There are better ways to address this. Murder is what morally depraved people resort to.
I like to compare him to Charles Manson.he didn’t personally kill anyone but he’s responsible for them
Free Luigi ๐บ๐ธ
Having been on the receiving end of the “I’m sorry, we don’t extend health insurance to type 1 diabetics” phone call…and being left to fend for myself for 2 and a half years without insurance…(translation: I had to pay retail prices for insulin WITH CASH)…this DOES hit a nerve. And with Medicaid and the ACA potentially at risk, even more so. Whoever said healthcare is a right and not a privilege is NOT the guy making $566 on a vial of insulin that retails for $568 and allows me to live another two and a half weeks.
If corporations are people, they can be charged with murder. Can’t have it both ways.ย
I’m so fucking fluent after this post. Thank you OP
Ahhhhh finance
Private jets and Parisian apartments tho
This is not finance.
I donโt think itโs quite the same
The problem with this is, where do you stop? I guess the thing to do is just shoot anyone you think has wronged you. My doctor should have done a better job on my back surgery, so I guess I’ll go shoot him. The irony is, the same people that are crying about the mentally ill man being killed in the New York Subway are okay with the CEO of United Health being killed.
Follow Richie Rich. The boy who couldn’t surf
Social Murder – A term coined by Friedrich Engels in 1845 and used to describe murder committed by the political and social elite where they knowingly permit conditions to exist where the poorest and most vulnerable in society are deprived of the necessities of life and are placed in a position in which they can not reasonably be expected to live and will inevitably meet an early and unnatural death.
Do people die or go into debt?
You know you just get sent a bill when insurance denies your claim right? They donโt just let you dieโฆ. This is probably the most misinformed Iโve ever seen Redditโฆ.
Is there actual source for how many โlife savingโ claims are denied?
This is the last time I’m up voting this…
You’re entitled to get the care you need, you just need to pay for it.
โLook, if we paid all the claims people make weโdโฆ well weโd still be making obscene amounts of money but it would be less than the obscene amount of money we make now.โ
There are different degrees of murder. Every state is slightly different and I can only speak to California, but it goes like this:
If a person acted willfully, deliberately, and with premeditation when they killed another person they are guilty of murder in the first degree. The person acted willfully if they intended to kill. The person acted deliberately if they carefully weighed the considerations for and against their choice and, knowing the consequences, decided to kill. The person acted with premeditation if they decided to kill before completing the act[s] that caused death.
The shooter committed murder in the first degree. The CEO did not. There’s still murder in other degrees that he may or may not have committed. For murder in the second degree, it goes like this:
If all of the following are true:
1. The person had a legal duty to help or care for another and the person failed to perform that duty and that failure caused the death of another person
2. When the person acted or failed to act, they had a state of mind called malice aforethought
3. The person killed without lawful justification
In cases where a life-saving treatment was not covered under the health care contract, the CEO does not have a legal duty to help or care for the customer. Without #1, there is no case for murder. In the case were a treatment is covered and the request was denied, then we have #1 and can go on to evaluate #2, and #3.
It really isn’t the same thing though. People have every right to be pissed off but that doesn’t make it right.
The biggest problem are the shareholders. They put the pressure on th Co’s to make more money all the time
Exactly
If a rich person profits from your death, then it isnโt murder
The pile of bodies in the bottom panel seems a bit small. Guess the artist couldn’t fit them all in.
“White-collar license.”
Iโm here for the comments!!!! ๐
A grand total of 0 of those rejected claims would have even been looked at by the CEO. I expect you all to start calling for the murders of the employees that actually process the claims.
Insufficient eyebrow volume in this depiction.
Ugh, I hate that it sounds like Iโm defending that piece of shit human being, but itโs not the same.
There is no obligation to help people. Insurance is a service that people pay for, and thus it can be refused without โbreaking any lawsโ.
Itโs a business to make money. They donโt care about us. They donโt have to help us. They are not legally responsible for us like a parent is to a child (which is why neglecting a child is a crime but neglecting customers is not).
Having said that, there certainly are consequences for not helping people. While those consequences may not be legal, they still exist.
Neglect enough people, and this is the result.
But the shooting was a crime.
Better would be to find a way to screw them over while not breaking the law like how they do to us.
However, I believe โdonโt do the crime if you canโt pay the timeโ and โyou reap what you sowโ certainly can be applied to both sides of this situation.
I like to think other way to not to be called serial killer and spend life in prison instead and do this way and get money and live free.
His practices that cause deaths weren’t actually legal either. He just had better lawyers
U killed there oligarch Duke of course your life doesnโt matter in a oligarchy dukes are corps and your a slave thatโs how that works oh well
Technically there’s no such thing as “legal murder” because murder is “unlawful killing”. For a killing to be “murder” it literally has to be against the law.
There’s just murder and lawful killing.
I like the term, white collar murder, it just fits.
Why are we still talking about this?
So when you choose not to help people on your way to work that may potentially die had you helped them, are you killing them? or if you donโt put 100% into your job or take longer coffee breaks, are you stealing?
I hate insurance companies, and at times I do think what they do is murder, I donโt think itโs as drastic as most people want to think, and no, walking up and shooting someone is not the solution
cops cant find shit unless there’s a rich asshole thats the victim
Where do oil company CEOs fit on this list?
Still murder. Across the board.
Clearly insurance needs government oversight. It seems like it would be easy to cheat people. (They would be cheating people, not kill as the paranoid comments suggest.)
But, to respond that murder is justified… there are some seriously morally bankrupt people out there. There are better ways to address this. Murder is what morally depraved people resort to.
Corporate America.
$ > Lives
Lives < Dirt