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“A blind, twelve year old Asian girl beating literally everyone?!? Get outta here with that DEI bullshit”
They DID release this show “today” on Netflix. They nerfed Sokka’s arc and completely botched genuine discourse around people being morally gray and growing out of being misogynist.
Personally I’d argue the problem with todays storytelling is characters have to be flawlessly good or bad and then spoon fed morality.
I know you Redditors LOVE to sit on the moral high ground, but for once can’t we approach these topics with some nuance? Modern story telling is more often than not lazy ass pandering.
My god this comment section cannot stop telling on itself huh
I need yall to think deeply about the state of American political culture now. Not everyone, but many people would very much have anti-woke opinions on this show if it premiered brand new today (the show was over 10 years old when it came out on Netflix so I don’t count it as being “released today”)
A blind girl who kicks everyone’s ass? JD Vance would hop on twitter and call it a DEI show
S3 when Aang goes to the fire nation school and learns about how they blatantly lie to the kids about the history of the genocide of the air nomads? Libs of Tik Tok would call it woke
People like Katara and Uncle Iroh teaching Zuko to be more sensitive and realize his mistakes? Andrew Tate would say that it’s the woke left feminizing men
It’s not everyone but there’s definitely a population out there that would have these opinions and there’s no reason to pretend like that’s not the case
It’s crazy how many people willingly let political theater cuck them from enjoying things.
Why are people acting like this show wouldn’t have been derided as transgender propaganda by anti-woke conservative media the second Sokka put on a dress and got his ass beat by a woman?
I never thought of Avatar as woke or anti-woke. It was well written.
A blind, fragile ten-year old girl who acts aggressively masculine is the greatest earth bender ever? She even invents a whole new style of bending just because? Like there’s already a super powerful, 100 year old earth bender introduced in season one, and they have metal bending be invented by a disabled, gender non-conforming little girl? Give me a break. This woke mary sue snowflake is just the woke hollywood mob trying to force diversity and inclusion.
I literally had someone tell me they didn’t like the show because of feminist propaganda, and that was a few years ago. So I definitely believe this exact thing would happen
Ain’t that the truth lol you already kind of saw this with Korra.
Especially with all the political and cultural commentary in ATLA, people would be tweeting non-stop about how “woke” this show is if it aired now.
From the comments it seems people have 2 different definitions of woke.
Definition 1 is base on Inclusivity and diversity with a wide range of culture and narratives. That’s like the og definition of woke.
However, the term woke has more or less changed in the past few years to now mean a show that forces diversity and inclusion even if it has absolutely nothing to do with the plot and storytelling, Wich usually suffers bad writing.
What is woke about this show? One of the most beloved characters was a perv and war criminal before his redemption arc lol
disagree because ATLA is actually well-written, it’s diversity isnt forced and actually enhances the story
So depressing that this generation was given unlimited access to information and instead of doubling down on progressivism and progress decided to backslide into boomer conservative because ‘checks notes’ “woke is cringe”. Pathetic.
lol, the reason this show was successful was because the writers knew how to build an interesting fantasy world with likable flawed characters. They were able to interweave social issues of things like prejudice or oppression into actual tangible themes; the characters were written like this to move the story forward, not to check some boxes about diversity and inclusion.
I think this show could absolutely be made today, and it would still get the praises it originally earned. Because it’s just a good show, not much to it.
“Aang is clearly white”
The fact that this show is as beloved as it is, when damn near the entire main cast is either “non-white” or disabled is actually a credit toward the people that are always being called racist and homophobic for hating on shitty shows and remakes.
It’s not about the diversity and inclusion, it’s about trying to cover up your shitty writing with it. If you’re actually a good writer then it can add to your show like ATLA, instead of being your crutch that you can attempt to use to discredit your critics.
Sokka getting his ass handed to him by Suki would’ve caused *outrage.*
Let’s talk about how that’s exactly what fans did when Korra released, but y’all aren’t ready for that conversation. >.>
I don’t think it would.
This is an entirely new world that combines cultures from all over the planet. It’s not taking something that already exists and making a bunch of changes to it. That’s what people don’t like.
I always thought the show was based on Tibet (being the mountainous regions of the Air Nomads), and China’s (the Fire Nation) rather tenuous relationship.
The only things about the first Avatar that I hate are the Great Divide and the fact that Season 3 was too short.
It serves as a depressing realization at the fact that we live in a time where discourse surrounding almost every single piece of media entertainment has become politicized thanks to the ideological reactionaries who more or less have become the SJW stereotype they mocked a decade by being extremely sensitive against any form of diversity.
The ones that call everything woke for petty reasons would call it woke.
But there’s a clear difference between them and those who only call stuff woke when it’s clear it’s trying to push forced instead of natural diversity of Left Wing Politics.
This is what people don’t understand when others say stuff being actually woke is a problem for them.
These are the same people that don’t understand why Franklin from GTA 5 gets way less hate than Yasuke in AC Shadows.
Not every minority character needs to be also disabled, gay/trans, have that black panther haircut, a stereotype, an “activist”, have hatred/disdain of men/white people/heterosexuals, make it extremely obvious they’re a minority, be put in just because, etc. This is what makes media woke.
Franklin belongs in GTA 5. It’s not controversial to say black people live in L.A. Meanwhile, Yasuke’s history is too ambiguous and controversial, plus we all know when people asked for an AC game in Japan they wanted to play as a Japanese male. Call it bigotry or whatever you want, you’re kidding yourself if you think people wanted to play as Yasuke. Also yes, there’s a Japanese female character too, but the problem is still Yasuke being there instead of a Japanese male who naturally fits the time of the game. Yasuke was clearly chosen on purpose and it wasn’t to “tell his story” especially with the writers having an absurd left wing bias and being addicted to identity politics.
The main character is BALD??? 🤮
Keep in mind, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, CCR, are also all “Woke” by today’s standards, and when you tell boomers they will act like it’s far worse today, when in reality, they have had their brains cultivated to believe it’s somehow different.
I grew up in the 90s and these morons think Green Day and Rage Against The Machine are suddenly woke and therefore changed, when Green Day was tongue in cheek mocking anti-gay stigmas and Rage Against The Machine’s most popular song is about how the cops are essentially the KKK.
Well, as someone who peaked in the ’90s, my opinions are about as relevant as dial-up internet.
TOO MANY DARKIES
Reading these comments only proves to me that yall are scared of the demons in your own head. ATLA wa dream created by 2 white guys from Rhode Island, and those 2 guys still make great content to this day.
Like how everyone hates BG3 right??? Oh wait we recognize quality!!!!
We dont’t have to imagine it, it happened with the Netflix adaptation. The animated show had characters with actual flaws. I had a problem with the Netflix adaptation. Why? They removed Sokka’s misogynistic comments/personality completely taking away from his character development. To me that’s just a load of crap. He goes from being a selfish misogynistic young man to learning about humility, selflessness and finding himself in the world in the animated series.
To me that is POWERFUL. Removing things we don’t like because they make us feels bad takes away the need for learning how to grow as people to overcome our flaws. My issue has never been DEI or “Woke” it’s needlessly juvenile decisions about what we can or can’t see even if it’s at the cost of valuable plot points. Imagine how many young men can relate to Sokka these days. Selfish, misogynistic and arrogant. You don’t see the value in a story that shows growth from that? To me a character isn’t supposed to be some item you check off a list. That’s vapid.