Looks like the Bernie Bros were right
Thursday, 13 Mar 2025
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Major misstep to curtail that movement. Both young and old were being energized for politics by the thought that justice had a place within the platform.
I lived in the Midwest at the time, and a few of the 40-65 year-old farmers I worked for had discovered a curiosity for Democratic politics, having been unexamined, life long Republicans. Seeing Sanders hold town halls where miners were convinced he was the man for the job had an impact on them. I wonder if any of them had uttered the word “healthcare” before that point in their lives.
I turned pretty jaded when I watched the entire system turn against Bernie because he wasn’t a billionaire simp.
The GOP and the DNC are the sword and shield of the wealthy respectively.
Only solution for working class Americans is to primary 90% of the party.
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David Sirota is like, literally the reason Bernie Sanders lost the nomination in 2020 when he was communications director and it was looking like Bernie had the nom locked up and should be pivoting to a unifying message, and he sent out a bunch of campaign materials saying Democrats are corrupt and must be taken by force. And he kept hiring people as messengers who turned out to be right wing grifters. South Carolina voted right after that.
To this day I still bring up with family and friends about how much off we’d all be if Bernie wasn’t pushed out of the primary in 2016 and for the most part the response is “yeah too bad Bernie bros were annoying about it then”
Yeah sorry my excitement for a candidate that promised huge reform and a focus on class consciousness made you annoyed because I was expected to fall in line with Hilary. It’s the fall in line or lose approach that has made liberals so unpopular because like yall lose anyway so?????
Occupy Wall Street was way more than 8 years ago. The DNC response was non-existent. Bernie came to the fore then because Dems wouldn’t speak against their donors.
You can support Bernie’s policies without being oblivious to the political realities of our extremely conservative and brainwashed population.
Establishment Democrats are pathetic cowards. Fuck them all.
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Everything that is happening now is due to the liberal appeasement of the democrats. They are fucking stupid and should be blamed just as much as the republicans.
Bernie Sanders would have cemented change for our country. But the hubris and general apathy to the working mans plight is what caused the democrats to utter failure. Morons
Exactly the reason I don’t consider myself a democrat. Democratic leadership are lifetime politicians who are every bit as self serving as the Republican leadership is.
The issues that democratic politicans pretend to care about resonate with me, but that’s all.
Last 8 years? It was over when Gore and the dems let the SCOTUS decide the 2000 election, which gave us Roberts and Alito.
When will people realize that it’s all by design?
It’s a revolving door.
It’s theatre.
It’s pro wrestling.
Democrats don’t hate republicans, republicans don’t hate democrats.
They do a song and dance to keep the people pissed off.
Stop picking a team and start resisting the parties.
It’s time for Americans to admit that we need to change our political system to be more like the rest of the world or we will fail. Miserably.
Shoulda had the nomination in 2016 but it doesn’t matter now
Look at Biden smile next to Trump like a fucking idiot, these assholes don’t give one fuck about us, we the people need to take our country back
The problem is: the Republicans wreck the economy, people are fed up and vote Democrat, and the Democrats can’t be arsed to actually *do* things (or at least: to communicate that they did) so they get punished in the midterms.
Biden added not responding to inflation for too long on the list. It’s a worldwide trend, all economies with inflation issues yeeted their incumbents over the last years no matter if left or right.
This is dead on. I have been seeing all kinds of articles on reasons why the Democrats lost. And they’re all wrong. The real reason is Democrats are just Reagan republicans. And they have been since the mid-90s. Since 2000, other than Obama, their main argument is “we aren’t the Republicans”. That bird don’t fly no more. When was the last time (if ever) that you heard democrats say “tax the rich” ? Or “regulate the financial markets”? They don’t. This last election saw them trying to flip Florida and Texas. Failed miserably. The fact is the current Republican-lite version doesn’t appeal to the right. And I sure as hell doesn’t appeal to the left. I want single payer healthcare and government funded college. I want every financial market and too big to fail business either regulated or broken up. I want food programs and drug price regulation embedded by law, not executive ordered. They need to change or we need a new party that will push for those things. And if it ends up costing the mid-terms or next president, so be it. I’m sick of cleaning up republican messes anyway. No more of this mealy mouthed, no plan, let’s play fair BS. What the Democrats still haven’t figured out is they are at war with a right wing party of zealots that will do anything, ethical or not, to get its way.
Democrats need to go hard left, quit chasing republican voters, and start earning the lefts vote. And get Pelosi out. She has been the Dem leader through 2 of the worst presidents ever elected. She is so weak that a thieving, lying, rapist of a conman got in, not once, but twice. Last election, for the first time ever, I voted straight Democrat (don’t worry, I haven’t voted for a Republican since the purge of moderate conservatives in 2000). I did that because of the threat the right has become. Never again. I’m voting for a hard left candidate that’s willing to go after the corrupt SCOTUS, billionaires, and businesses. I want a person that will put 90% taxes on businesses that make billionaires rather than pay their employees. Period. If the democrats are too hooked on billionaires donations, then we start a new party that isn’t afraid. And don’t give me the “you’ll never win” nonsense about a new party. We are losing now with the one we got. I might as well lose backing the person will represent my values. MAGA will always be filth. I don’t need to change them. I need to beat them so bad their grandkids will gag after finding out Nana and Gramps were a couple of filthy racists who were too stupid to vote for their own interests. Until the Dems change or a new party arises, I’m done voting for the billionaire funded, “we aren’t the republicans” Democrats. I’m losing anyway, I might as well lose supporting someone that will make a difference.
The Bernie Bros were right in supporting Sanders vision as well as his candidacy
But they were wrong when they failed to vote for either Clinton or Harris
Either Clinton or Harris would have done much more to advance Sanders agenda – it would have been incremental baby steps towards his goals – certainly not “good enough”
But that is still leagues better than actively running away from his policy goals, which is what the current administration is doing
People need to vote pragmatically and realize that none of the above is not a meaningful option by the time it gets to the general election for President
(1) Bernie Sanders isn’t the most progressive senator, by a country mile. His voting record is actually worse than every swing state senator AND Sherrod Brown. The Democrat from OHIO. (progressivepunch.org*)
(2) Sanders was the chairman of the senate budget committee for 4 years. He has more control over the Democratic party agenda than all but 2 other people (Schumer and Biden) so when he shits on Democratic party leadership, he’s using his (I-VT) as a fucking gimmick.
(3) In 2016 Sanders was already the same age as Gerry Connelly is today. You know, the guy everyone’s shitting on for being too old.
(4) Yet every election year, even Bernie is out there stumping for Clinton, Biden, and Kamala in Sept and Oct. He is a gadfly for 22 months and then for 2 months, he’s got his hands on the rope.
America’s reins of power swing back and forth between the parties regularly because America’s government is poorly designed. Look at every other nation on the planet with a regular-ass parliament system. They have a labor party that matters, so they have vacation days, maternity leave, healthcare, all that shit. What our founding fathers cooked up was probably fine for 13 colonies, but in a nation of this size **nothing gets done.** Fucking nothing. Instead of various parties representing regions/interests forming coalitions, you have 2 parties because 1 guy, the president, has more legislative power than 50% of congress.
Hell, even Tip O’Neill seems to make Biden look like a staunch Republican when you use Bernie as a comparison.
All of this makes sense when you realize the Dems are in bed with billionaires too. We need a Labor party.
Mainstream democrats are just as corrupt as republicans. Both sides were bought and paid for by large corporations.
They banded against him twice. The billionaire class hates Bernie.
We fucking told you. And what did we get for it? Marginalized and laughed at.
Yall could’ve had better than establishment Democrats, you could’ve had an ACTUAL PROGRESSIVE, a person who fought for you since before you were born. But no, it HAD to be Hillary. it HAD to be Biden.
Maybe we’ll get another chance to vote ourselves out of this mess, but I doubt it now that the American Taliban is now in charge.
The modern democratic party has gone full ivory tower. You’re either “in” and subscribe to their every policy; or you can give any sort of criticism and be immediately outcast. Any attempt to give feedback is typically responded with being labelled a “centrist” or mocked for having a “both sides” mentality. Just because they’re the better option does not mean they are the “perfect” option by any means. And it is for that reason they are failing.
both my long time republican parents voted for bernie in the primary that year (he won our state), then went right back to the other side when they pushed him out
I’m 26, I remember my highschool cohort all liking Bernie. Because of how the Democratic Party treated him a lot of them voted for Trump this last time.
Only thing worse than a one part system is a two party system. Def feels they’re part of the GOP with how much they’ve screwing the pooch
What a shock. I unregistered from the Democratic Party after 2016. If you morons are too stupid to beat Donald Trump, I don’t feel good about being associated with you. Even though I only vote blue… for obvious reasons. But it would be great if it even felt like they learned a lesson in 2016. Clearly they learned nothing. So independent it is
The Cassandra movement.
Also completely neutering all the unity and momentum from the George Floyd Marches. Then he blueballed everyone 4 years and handed the election to Trump.
A republican I knew turned me on to Bernie back then. He voted R after Bernie got screwed and is so far-right today that he flies a trump and confederate flag. I still vote blue but only because of people like AOC and Bernie who fight the good fight despite being outnumbered by corporatists.