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the worst devs i’ve met have all used keyboards
Yeah I mean if you don’t have a degree you’re only going to get a job if you’re particularly good
The worst devs I know had Mathematics PhDs.
The worst dev I know is Theo so I suppose it works out
So if you don’t have a CS degree, there a 100% chance you won’t be among the worst devs.
Count me in!
This guy is the worst developer I know. I cannot _stand_ him.
Yeah, but those “best devs” probably overlap with people who started programming 10-15 years ago self taught.
Good luck being self taught today
Source: I started 17 years ago as self taught, it was hillariously easy compared to today 🙂
I’m looking around my office for the worst dev here and can’t figure out who it is. I must be lucky and work in a place that doesn’t have one.
If Theo said it you can safely ignore it.
In webdev I started as student and we had in my years there like 5 students in total with me. One was coming in with the best everything… couldn’t write a basic html skeleton page xD it was so embarassing bad
I have a theory… Those without CS degree need to learn and grind harder to get a job…
Out of all web devs I know, 100% are utterly useless in actual development
ah, so a kind of surviviorship bias? Remember that of all the bad devs, 100% have cs deegrees, does not mean that everyone with cs degrees are bad or that there is even causation. It just means if you are bad the only way you qualify is with degree, ie. degrees help with job hunting
In other words you are more likely to get a job if you have a degree
Of the best devs I know, 0% use twitter.
Clearly not a data guy.
I can’t say I’ve ever known a decent developer without a CS or similar degree.
Where is he meeting so many uneducated developers?
I’m currently doing my CS degree and it’s kinda painful seeing how hard people shit on CS degrees nowadays lol, although the jokes are pretty funny
Of the devs I know, ~100% don’t give a shit if you have a CS degree.
100% of Bad Devs with Jobs have Degrees
0% of Bad Devs without Degrees have Jobs
Giving this guy a platform was a mistake. I bet he will make a video about this later with the clickbaitest ass photo ever as thumbnail.
If 100% of the worst got a job by virtue of having a degree, that does not imply that 100% of those with a degree get a job (nor that 100% of those with a degree are the worst, but that’s a different thing again). See: *fallacy of the inverse.*
This guy is the worst dev with an audience that I know… but he is among the best of all of those I know, probably because the top devs I know is only composed of dev with audience
almost all self taught programmers I have seen code of wrote abysmal crap. Most people in college wrote abysmal code. half of my colleagues write abysmal code. that’s how life is.
This is one of the worst takes ever
Well, I’m at least 100% sure he’s not a good data scientist
It’s Theo. Have you seen his content? Seriously?
This guy knows two deva, one has a CS degree and isn’t good.
The message from this to understand is: A CompSci degree will not make you a good developer
there’s some truth to that. I don’t have a degree, and got a job about 7 years ago. every time I start interviewing to move into a better role with a big company, I’ll make it really far into the interviewing process, then get hit with “Your recruiter didn’t tell us you don’t have a degree, we shouldn’t have ever interviewed you”. I accepted offers on two occasions, only to get bounced. So yeah that piece of paper really opens doors.
I’ve been on both sides of the interview table (screen, whatever) for a while now, and I can tell you this: a degree or certification is never a negative in my book, but it means nothing if you can’t actually write code. I have interviewed so many developers whose resumes claimed that they had CS degrees and X years of experience in the required language who could not code their way out of a paper bag. Like they look at me like I’ve got three heads when I start talking about arrays. It’s that bad.
So really, I don’t care if you have a CS degree. At most, it’s a tiebreaker between two equally-qualified applicants, but it’s pretty rare that a tiebreaker is actually needed. What I want to see is:
1. **Can you, in fact, code?** Did you tell the truth on your resume? (Nothing will torpedo your interview with me faster then my finding out you’ve been dishonest.)
2. **Is your code good?** Will we have to go back and fix everything you write?
3. **Can you learn?** Do you know how to find answers to questions? I’m fine with helping people, but there’s a difference between asking for help because something’s difficult and asking for help because you don’t know how to learn anything.
4. **Can you get things done?** Can you tell me about what *you* accomplished, or will you only be able to talk about things your team did?
5. **Can you get along with people?** Even (or especially) when they have the temerity to disagree with you? Do you have enough intellectual humility to admit that you might possibly be wrong about something?
If a candidate does well on these points, I’m perfectly willing to overlook the fact that they don’t check every box on the list of desired skills or qualifications.
I guess this person has never met one of those dev bootcamp graduates who can throw together a hell of a todo list react program… and that’s about it.