I took a class in pharmacy school about hospital economics…these numbers are completely and utterly fabricated. It is the most disgusting practice I have ever encountered, the numbers start MUCH higher even than this and the insurance companies and hospitals negotiate down from there as to how much they would cover vs real cost. Like fucking bandaids could end up being $13 a piece! Bag of IV morphine costing less than IV saline. Like wtf!!! 🤯 this WHOLE FUCKING SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN AND THESE MOTHERFUCKERS NEED TO BE IMPRISONED
ThePacifistOrc
3 months ago
What the fuck is education/training? Cause every explanation I can imagine is worse than the last.
knoxtra
3 months ago
This is why everyone is cheering about the death of that CEO.
b1e9t4t1y
3 months ago
.02c for imaging? They’re just fkng with you at that point.
Beneficial-Face-2386
3 months ago
Absolutely insane. And charging any amount of money to provide patient education is even more egregious.
Conscious_Valuable90
3 months ago
Will we see mandatory tipping next on these medical bills?
Principal_Insultant
3 months ago
Two cents from the other side of the pond:
1. Once you allow corporations to ~~bribe~~ *donate to* lawmakers, you end up with lawmakers who don’t care about their constituents, but only their large donors.
2. US for-profit healthcare is an abomination whithout competition by universal healthcare, since profits are created exclusively through pain and suffering, instead of better service at competitive rates.
Edit: convoluted wording 🙂
Stuffinthins
3 months ago
Fuck that, put the bill in the casket too. Debts die with the person, families don’t need the extra weight
timeunraveling
3 months ago
Refuse to pay. Deny, Defend, Depose!
dingo_khan
3 months ago
How is a semi-private room more expensive than most of a year in a studio apartment in the most expensive US cities? That is disgusting.
Pears_and_Peaches
3 months ago
This is straight disgusting.
I’m not American, and I have no idea how people living there think they live in the “greatest nation in the world”.
The indoctrination is strong. I’ll give them that.
rozzco
3 months ago
$165k for pharmacy? Insane!
namotous
3 months ago
Surely Trump will fix it. He has concepts of a healthcare plan. Right?
Nyx_Shadowspawn
3 months ago
When my son was born they charged me a fee for when I held him skin to skin.
koka86yanzi
3 months ago
This plus when you expect insurance to cover you, but they end dip denying or being difficult. No wonder why that dude got shot. The entire system is stacked against the middle or lower income families
Timely-Salt1928
3 months ago
Deny, Defend, Depose.
Those words are a ralling cry that will not be forgotten. They need to be echod down every hall. These elites need it chanted at them every time they come in public. Etched on the sides of every building belonging to those that hurt innocent people for financial gain.
Deny, Defend, Depose.
Booger_lip_quip
3 months ago
And then people wonder why no one gives two shits about the United Healthcare CEO.
Jonger1150
3 months ago
Voting GOP is immoral
DesperateSeat1115
3 months ago
Americans shouldn’t have to lose everything they have worked for, plead for help, or set up a “GO FUND ME” to pay for their HEALTH CARE!!
We live in the wealthiest nation in the world and yet millions can’t afford a trip to the Emergency Department.
Now, the incoming 2025 congress wants to limit Americans access to Health Care by gutting the Affordable Care Act.
We may have an immigration problem, we may have an infrastructure problem, the cost of eggs may be a problem too – However the bigger issue that is destroying the financial security of American is the Health Care Crisis. We need congress to solve this problem now.
Some Fun Facts to consider when you talk to your member of Congress:
According to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, (NAIC) in 2023.
~ UnitedHealth group made $32.4 Billion
~ CVS/Aetna made $13.7 Billion
~ Cigna made $7.4 Billion
~ Elevance Health made $8.7 Billion
~ Humana made 4.0 Billion
~ Centene made 2.9 Billion
~ Molina made 1.6 Billion
The CEO’s of these companies 2023 salaries were:
~ David Cordani, Cigna $21,047,355
~ Andrew Witty, UnitedHealth Group: $23,534,936
~ Gail Boudreaux, Elevance Health: $21,889,039
~ Karen Lynch, CVS Health: $21,615,034
~ Sarah London, Centene: $18,556,966
~ Bruce Broussard, Humana: $16,327,384
~ Joseph Zubretsky, Molina: $22,131,256
We need healthcare reform and we need it before another American family loses everything because of a medical situation.
reluctantpotato1
3 months ago
I wonder what would happen if every American just defaulted on their medical debt?
On_A_Related_Note
3 months ago
“Semi private room and board”
That’ll be 47 grand thanks.
For 47 grand, I’d expect it to be a suite at the fucking Ritz.
jonnyphotos
3 months ago
Your country’s fucked in the head.
Dumplati
3 months ago
Imaging just haaad to add their 2 cents to the conversation
WhatWhatWhit
3 months ago
It should also be noted that if her mother had an estate of any value, that $275k gets paid FIRST before any assets are handed down. For all of the bitching about the “death tax” that only impacted 1% of the richest people in the country, this is the ACTUAL death tax. The medical care at the end of your life that you’re not here to negotiate.
Someone I love watched her father’s estate get chipped away by all of the different doctors who treated him in his last six months of life.
Fuck private healthcare and fuck the people who continually vote to make the lives of billionaires better at their own expense.
Rosaadriana
3 months ago
You are not liable for the debt but it will come out of whatever is left of her estate. So basically the hospital gets your inheritance.
ScorpioZA
3 months ago
I look at this and i wonder how it is possible that a totally innocent CEO of a healthcare insurer could get killed – i mean – how?
major /s in that wasn’t obvious
Secure_Enthusiasm354
3 months ago
Reminds me of the time that one cyclist got ran over by an ambulance and still got charged by the hospital
_Gracefully_Grace_
3 months ago
Tell them Death has taken over her debt and give them the cemetery’s address.
Common_Dealer_7541
3 months ago
First, so sorry for your loss.
Please don’t pay this until the last part of distributing her estate. These are not **real** costs and the hospital piles them on to either show their “value” to the insurance company during negotiations or their operating losses to show their need for more funding (or both).
The US does NOT have a healthcare crisis. The US has a healthcare INSURANCE crisis.
The media ignoring reasons the ceo was killed
I took a class in pharmacy school about hospital economics…these numbers are completely and utterly fabricated. It is the most disgusting practice I have ever encountered, the numbers start MUCH higher even than this and the insurance companies and hospitals negotiate down from there as to how much they would cover vs real cost. Like fucking bandaids could end up being $13 a piece! Bag of IV morphine costing less than IV saline. Like wtf!!! 🤯 this WHOLE FUCKING SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN AND THESE MOTHERFUCKERS NEED TO BE IMPRISONED
What the fuck is education/training? Cause every explanation I can imagine is worse than the last.
This is why everyone is cheering about the death of that CEO.
.02c for imaging? They’re just fkng with you at that point.
Absolutely insane. And charging any amount of money to provide patient education is even more egregious.
Will we see mandatory tipping next on these medical bills?
Two cents from the other side of the pond:
1. Once you allow corporations to ~~bribe~~ *donate to* lawmakers, you end up with lawmakers who don’t care about their constituents, but only their large donors.
2. US for-profit healthcare is an abomination whithout competition by universal healthcare, since profits are created exclusively through pain and suffering, instead of better service at competitive rates.
Edit: convoluted wording 🙂
Fuck that, put the bill in the casket too. Debts die with the person, families don’t need the extra weight
Refuse to pay. Deny, Defend, Depose!
How is a semi-private room more expensive than most of a year in a studio apartment in the most expensive US cities? That is disgusting.
This is straight disgusting.
I’m not American, and I have no idea how people living there think they live in the “greatest nation in the world”.
The indoctrination is strong. I’ll give them that.
$165k for pharmacy? Insane!
Surely Trump will fix it. He has concepts of a healthcare plan. Right?
When my son was born they charged me a fee for when I held him skin to skin.
This plus when you expect insurance to cover you, but they end dip denying or being difficult. No wonder why that dude got shot. The entire system is stacked against the middle or lower income families
Deny, Defend, Depose.
Those words are a ralling cry that will not be forgotten. They need to be echod down every hall. These elites need it chanted at them every time they come in public. Etched on the sides of every building belonging to those that hurt innocent people for financial gain.
Deny, Defend, Depose.
And then people wonder why no one gives two shits about the United Healthcare CEO.
Voting GOP is immoral
Americans shouldn’t have to lose everything they have worked for, plead for help, or set up a “GO FUND ME” to pay for their HEALTH CARE!!
We live in the wealthiest nation in the world and yet millions can’t afford a trip to the Emergency Department.
Now, the incoming 2025 congress wants to limit Americans access to Health Care by gutting the Affordable Care Act.
We may have an immigration problem, we may have an infrastructure problem, the cost of eggs may be a problem too – However the bigger issue that is destroying the financial security of American is the Health Care Crisis. We need congress to solve this problem now.
Some Fun Facts to consider when you talk to your member of Congress:
According to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, (NAIC) in 2023.
~ UnitedHealth group made $32.4 Billion
~ CVS/Aetna made $13.7 Billion
~ Cigna made $7.4 Billion
~ Elevance Health made $8.7 Billion
~ Humana made 4.0 Billion
~ Centene made 2.9 Billion
~ Molina made 1.6 Billion
The CEO’s of these companies 2023 salaries were:
~ David Cordani, Cigna $21,047,355
~ Andrew Witty, UnitedHealth Group: $23,534,936
~ Gail Boudreaux, Elevance Health: $21,889,039
~ Karen Lynch, CVS Health: $21,615,034
~ Sarah London, Centene: $18,556,966
~ Bruce Broussard, Humana: $16,327,384
~ Joseph Zubretsky, Molina: $22,131,256
We need healthcare reform and we need it before another American family loses everything because of a medical situation.
I wonder what would happen if every American just defaulted on their medical debt?
“Semi private room and board”
That’ll be 47 grand thanks.
For 47 grand, I’d expect it to be a suite at the fucking Ritz.
Your country’s fucked in the head.
Imaging just haaad to add their 2 cents to the conversation
It should also be noted that if her mother had an estate of any value, that $275k gets paid FIRST before any assets are handed down. For all of the bitching about the “death tax” that only impacted 1% of the richest people in the country, this is the ACTUAL death tax. The medical care at the end of your life that you’re not here to negotiate.
Someone I love watched her father’s estate get chipped away by all of the different doctors who treated him in his last six months of life.
Fuck private healthcare and fuck the people who continually vote to make the lives of billionaires better at their own expense.
You are not liable for the debt but it will come out of whatever is left of her estate. So basically the hospital gets your inheritance.
I look at this and i wonder how it is possible that a totally innocent CEO of a healthcare insurer could get killed – i mean – how?
major /s in that wasn’t obvious
Reminds me of the time that one cyclist got ran over by an ambulance and still got charged by the hospital
Tell them Death has taken over her debt and give them the cemetery’s address.
First, so sorry for your loss.
Please don’t pay this until the last part of distributing her estate. These are not **real** costs and the hospital piles them on to either show their “value” to the insurance company during negotiations or their operating losses to show their need for more funding (or both).
The US does NOT have a healthcare crisis. The US has a healthcare INSURANCE crisis.