How would this even be enforceable when neither the UK, EU nor any of its constituents are involved in the peace talks? You can just volunteer a foreign nation to police a foreign border indefinitely. Absolute joke of a proposal.
nim_opet
21 days ago
So basically punishing Ukraine and rewarding Russia and the U.S..
nerkuras
21 days ago
500Billion?! that’s making Versailles seem kind
CalliopePenelope
21 days ago
Why is the US diving out of Lithuania?
FallenBleak5
21 days ago
Russia has said it won’t accept NATO troops in Ukraine. Ukraine has said it won’t accept any land loss. It’s hard to imagine this plan will come into effect.
Majestic_Bierd
21 days ago
This is objectively the second worst outcome anyone ever predicted, right behind “Russia takes over all of Ukraine”
phthalo-azure
21 days ago
This isn’t the “U.S.” peace plan. This is Putin’s plan.
On edit: I see the Russian disinfo bots are out in force. The late night shift must have started in Moscow.
Antique-Entrance-229
21 days ago
This potential Ukraine peace plan heavily favors Russia, forcing Ukraine to cede all occupied territories, renounce NATO ambitions, and pay the U.S. $500 billion in rare minerals. A demilitarized zone would be monitored by European and UK troops, while U.S. forces withdraw from the Baltics, weakening NATO’s eastern defenses. In return, a ceasefire would be established by Easter, effectively freezing Russian gains. This deal secures Russian dominance, economically burdens Ukraine, and shifts security responsibilities to Europe.
Onagan98
21 days ago
This not a plan, this is a surrender
Direct_Astronomer778
21 days ago
This is the worst peace deal in the history of peace deals, maybe ever.
Legume_Pilgrim__
21 days ago
Essentially guarantees Russias influence/control over Ukraine indefinitelyÂ
anonymousposter121
21 days ago
And for all this what does Russia have to give up?? Exactly nothing
Mr_sludge
21 days ago
Biggest betrayal since Poland 1945. Beyond shameful
BigLittleMate
21 days ago
So Russia keeps all its gains and Ukraine gives up the land they’ve recently occupied, and Ukraine signs over rare earth minerals to the US?
Putin must be threatening to leak that pee-pee tape again.
QOTAPOTA
21 days ago
That’s not a peace plan, that’s a surrender. How does this teach the aggressor a lesson? The bad guy wins. The victim loses twice – once to its foe and once to its ‘friend’.
Imperium_Dragon
21 days ago
So a Russian win then
Neko_1812
21 days ago
Lol that’s worse than the “peace plan” Putin proposed himself a while ago
Creoda
21 days ago
How about no.
Ukraine declared neutrality and abandoned it’s nuclear weapons on an agreement with Russia in 1994. Russia reneged on the deal, they will do again. And don’t trust Trump either.
Budapest Memorandum, 4 important points.
1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from [economic coercion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_coercion) designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its [sovereignty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty) and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate [United Nations Security Council](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council) action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
profcoble
21 days ago
By April 20th. Totally normal date with no other implications.
gurlycurls
21 days ago
If america is leaving NATO, how can they have any say who gets or doesn’t get to NATO?
Depravito
21 days ago
Is this just a plan you threw together based on rumors and analysis or was there an actual plan announced?
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21 days ago
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Ok-Huckleberry-1172
21 days ago
$500b in minerals? Why?
Russia gives back every centimeter they took and is responsible for reparations. The World Court will decide if there are any further sanctions added on after the trials.
This is the perfect opportunity to show the world what happens to you when you invade another nation.
TulliusC
21 days ago
So is trump basically a russian asset at this point?
LittleSchwein1234
21 days ago
So basically agree to everything Putin wanted? Negotiations, my ass. Trump is like Alan Harper’s divorce lawyer after Charlie broke up with her.
tortiesrock
21 days ago
Not April 20!! Elon Musk favorite weed joke and Hitler’s birthday. This is a serious matter and I suspect Musk wanted to make his favorite overused joke again. What a buffoon!
presidentpiko
21 days ago
This ain’t it chief
eppic123
21 days ago
That’s no peace plan. That’s a plan to loot Ukraine and drive back NATO for future attacks by Russia.
How would this even be enforceable when neither the UK, EU nor any of its constituents are involved in the peace talks? You can just volunteer a foreign nation to police a foreign border indefinitely. Absolute joke of a proposal.
So basically punishing Ukraine and rewarding Russia and the U.S..
500Billion?! that’s making Versailles seem kind
Why is the US diving out of Lithuania?
Russia has said it won’t accept NATO troops in Ukraine. Ukraine has said it won’t accept any land loss. It’s hard to imagine this plan will come into effect.
This is objectively the second worst outcome anyone ever predicted, right behind “Russia takes over all of Ukraine”
This isn’t the “U.S.” peace plan. This is Putin’s plan.
On edit: I see the Russian disinfo bots are out in force. The late night shift must have started in Moscow.
This potential Ukraine peace plan heavily favors Russia, forcing Ukraine to cede all occupied territories, renounce NATO ambitions, and pay the U.S. $500 billion in rare minerals. A demilitarized zone would be monitored by European and UK troops, while U.S. forces withdraw from the Baltics, weakening NATO’s eastern defenses. In return, a ceasefire would be established by Easter, effectively freezing Russian gains. This deal secures Russian dominance, economically burdens Ukraine, and shifts security responsibilities to Europe.
This not a plan, this is a surrender
This is the worst peace deal in the history of peace deals, maybe ever.
Essentially guarantees Russias influence/control over Ukraine indefinitelyÂ
And for all this what does Russia have to give up?? Exactly nothing
Biggest betrayal since Poland 1945. Beyond shameful
So Russia keeps all its gains and Ukraine gives up the land they’ve recently occupied, and Ukraine signs over rare earth minerals to the US?
Putin must be threatening to leak that pee-pee tape again.
That’s not a peace plan, that’s a surrender. How does this teach the aggressor a lesson? The bad guy wins. The victim loses twice – once to its foe and once to its ‘friend’.
So a Russian win then
Lol that’s worse than the “peace plan” Putin proposed himself a while ago
How about no.
Ukraine declared neutrality and abandoned it’s nuclear weapons on an agreement with Russia in 1994. Russia reneged on the deal, they will do again. And don’t trust Trump either.
Budapest Memorandum, 4 important points.
1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from [economic coercion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_coercion) designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its [sovereignty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty) and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate [United Nations Security Council](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council) action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
By April 20th. Totally normal date with no other implications.
If america is leaving NATO, how can they have any say who gets or doesn’t get to NATO?
Is this just a plan you threw together based on rumors and analysis or was there an actual plan announced?
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$500b in minerals? Why?
Russia gives back every centimeter they took and is responsible for reparations. The World Court will decide if there are any further sanctions added on after the trials.
This is the perfect opportunity to show the world what happens to you when you invade another nation.
So is trump basically a russian asset at this point?
So basically agree to everything Putin wanted? Negotiations, my ass. Trump is like Alan Harper’s divorce lawyer after Charlie broke up with her.
Not April 20!! Elon Musk favorite weed joke and Hitler’s birthday. This is a serious matter and I suspect Musk wanted to make his favorite overused joke again. What a buffoon!
This ain’t it chief
That’s no peace plan. That’s a plan to loot Ukraine and drive back NATO for future attacks by Russia.