Well the only thing that’s showing is that you should at no time if possible listen to the public opinion.
SumoHeadbutt
3 months ago
goes to show the irrationality being the partisan mindset
Patriot009
3 months ago
Trump wins the election, there’s like a 10% drop among Democrats during Obama’s lame duck period. Biden wins the election, there’s like a 50% drop among Republicans during Trump’s lame duck period. That’s some Fox News pre-gaming right there.
Aggravating-Medium-9
3 months ago
I’d also like to see a graph comparing stock prices and economic growth rates.
IAmMuffin15
3 months ago
Obviously there’s some bias on both sides, but JFC the sheer disconnect between the average Republican voter and the actual state of the economy is *insane.*
It literally took the DOW losing over **10000 points** in a couple of weeks for even *half* of Republicans to be like, “eh, maybe this economy isn’t doing too great.” They harp on and on endlessly about how “Reddit isn’t real life” and “leave your echo chamber,” but this graph clearly shows that for 90% of them, reality *just does not fucking matter at all* when it comes to their opinion of the economy.
They call the democrats biased, but as proven in this chart, *most of them* are willing to acknowledge if the economy is doing well or poorly, regardless of who is president. But for like 90% of Republicans, the *only thing* that influences their opinion of the economy is the letter next to the name of the president.
I *guarantee* that when Trump takes power again, their view of the economy will instantly flip. It happened in 2016, it was like a light switch. In less than 2 weeks, FOX News went from “end times” while Obama was president to “greatest economy ever” when Trump took office.
fundamentally unserious people
DeathStarVet
3 months ago
The GOP propaganda machine is working as intended.
Kojinka
3 months ago
Notice how there is no middle ground with the conservatives’ perspective.
Small_Dimension_5997
3 months ago
That is really interesting.
I was oblivious how highly Republicans thought of the 2017-2020 time period until this last election cycle. I remember it being rather tenuous (low job growth, no wage growth, companies were overall cautious). But they were clearly , within a year of the Trump election, all high as kites thinking how great it was.
The GOP looks crazy on this graph. Clear upswings when their guy is in power, and downswings when they lose. IN 2020, they had what looks like a week of ‘oh shit’, and then by the summer they were like “whatever our guy is in power the economy is good, ignore the millions of job losses”. And then their perception dropped like a rock when Biden got into office, before there was even an inflation problem (you can see where the inflation kicked in during 2022 where the blue line sinks, but the red line was already at sub 10% by then).
It’s like 90% of the Red line is political, and about 20% of the blue line is political.
Meet-me-behind-bins
3 months ago
When you’re dirt poor in a Red state all you’ve got is vibes.
hybridaaroncarroll
3 months ago
I wish they had also published independents, although they tend to be just as impressionable as party affiliates.
I find it interesting that the Democrats never got above 75%, and the Republicans have the most dramatic and extreme swings of opinion.
axelrexangelfish
3 months ago
Well. That’s not good.
nomisr
3 months ago
Judging by the comments here and seeing what the actual voter sentiment is by the independents during this most recent elections, especially men (since men based on polling was voting by economy rather than abortion), we can see that Democrats are more off from reality of the economy than Republicans despite what Reddit thinks.
And because of what I say contradicts the Reddit echo chamber, i will be downvoted to hell and back.
Scytian
3 months ago
It’s funny when you compare this graph with some others, for example GDP growth rate % – it’s is almost the same as democrats here. It clearly shows who actually know shit and who believes in all bullshit they are told.
alhazad85
3 months ago
It ISN’T a cult!!! Why do I have to keep saying this over and over and over???
technoexplorer
3 months ago
If you go back futher it’s been like this for 50 years. 55 points for whichever party has the White House. Republicans have a base score of 20 and the Democrats have a base score of 10.
Very roughly of course.
ElectricRune
3 months ago
Well, we’ll see what happens when Trump and Elon crash the economy.
It is coming if they get even ten percent of their ‘concepts of plans’ implemented!
YellowOnline
3 months ago
Republicans live in a fantasy world where facts don’t matter, exhibit C
Agitated_Tell2281
3 months ago
Then why are republicans care so much about the economy if they’re THAT low on this infographic?? Is/was there any other reason?
TheNextBattalion
3 months ago
the gap on the Democrat side under 75% is probably what cost the turnout needed for Harris to win
Electronic_Row_7513
3 months ago
Bad policy is good policy when it’s my team.
Distwalker
3 months ago
I am 62 years old and there has never been a year of my life when someone wasn’t complaining about the terrible state of the economy.
Honest-Ruin305
3 months ago
The funniest part of this to me is how the Republican line is mostly unresponsive to anything that wasn’t the pandemic or the right/wrong person in office. And even the pandemic only made them hesitate for a few months.
Less-Perspective-693
3 months ago
The amount of bias on the right bs the left is insane. Yes theres obviously bias on both sides but republicans shoot straight up to 100% when their party is in office then straight down to 0 when theyre not. Democrats more or less follow the actual state of the economy with somewhat of a shift toward their party. The only time dems went to 0 is when the economy fully crashed
SophonParticle
3 months ago
I wish they would overlay a third line, actual performance of the economy.
FWIW the actual economy pretty much followed the blue line.
WooIWorthWaIIaby
3 months ago
Trump gets inaugurated and Dem opinion on the economy drops from 75% positive to about 60% in a few weeks, -15 points.
Biden gets inaugurated and GOP opinion on the economy drops from 85% positive to 25% in a few weeks, -60 points.
Interesting how much more hyper-partisan the GOP is on their views of the economy
jcned
3 months ago
It’d be cool if there was a third line with an average of how economic experts think the economy is doing. But even they probably differ quite a bit on their assessments. I wonder if there is any objective measure that could be used for the third line.
Overt_Propaganda
3 months ago
It’s not republican vs democrat anymore, it’s educated middle-class vs blissfully ignorant poverty class, and we’re both losing to the wealth class that doesn’t gaf about any of us, and are just robbing the country blind for their own ends.
FeynmansMiniHands
3 months ago
In summer of 2020 the US hit a 15% unemployment rate, the highest at any point outside the great depression, and 60% of Republicans thought the economy was “good or fairly good”.
Vegtam1297
3 months ago
So, Democrats are fairly stable and in line with reality, whereas Republicans swing wildly based on who’s in office. In other words, their view of the economy is strongly based on the propaganda pushed to them, while Democrats base theirs generally on reality.
That tracks.
rvralph803
3 months ago
All this graph tells me is that Republicans are impressionable idiots.
Which I already knew.
scott2449
3 months ago
Graph showing that Dems have a meh grasp of economics, Republicans Econ = Vibes.
Fit_Helicopter1949
3 months ago
Wow the brainwash is real.
Irritated_Dad
3 months ago
The only thing this shows is how tribal and partisan politics has become. Several of the responses to this post further prove that.
Acrobatic_Dot_1634
3 months ago
$4 for a dozen eggs under Biden 😡
$4 for a dozen eggs under Trump 🤠
Expert_Ambassador_66
3 months ago
Coukd someone more knowledgeable om this stuff give me their opinion on how this interacts with the general “People making over 100k trend democrst, people making under 100k trend republican” phenomenon we have been seeing? Could that be impacting the data? I’ve heard a lot of “the economy has been doing great if you’re already established” talk.
Skating4587Abdollah
3 months ago
To me it looks like the Republican line is much more affected by the stock market (using S&P500 as a rough metric) and Democrats probably more by other factors.
Seeing the hive mind actually measured in a chart is really quite alarming
ChiefWiggins22
3 months ago
I have for a long time thought that a moderate republican president and blue chambers would be best for the economy only because republicans are so warped by who is in power to only think the economy is good when their guy is in office.
jeyrey2000
3 months ago
I think that is mislabeled and should be intelligence by party!
Bankrunner123
3 months ago
This seems to suggest GOP is much more partisan in their assessment than democrats. Dems are partisan but more tied to reality.
But I think this shows a broader point that economic sentiment doesn’t tell much about the economy but just president popularity.
Burlekchek
3 months ago
Goddangit are Republicans fucking tribalistic animals… Objectivity is not their strong suit, eh?
redAstroX
3 months ago
Shouldn’t there be a control line for where the economy was through the years??
This doesn’t really mean anything otherwise..
Lightning5021
3 months ago
the amount of people putting this on the conservative and not the mass media is crazy
ExplosiveDioramas
3 months ago
How was this data collected?
PatternNew7647
3 months ago
Is it really that we just live in two different realities? Or is it that democrats have more government and DEI jobs so under Democrat administrations they have more job opportunities while republicans have more free market jobs and hence only notice an improved economy. Or is it the news media we consume? Like I’ve been consuming a lot of content discussing all the warning signs that our economy is going into recession for like 2 years now. Are the democrats just not watching content like that as much?
Well the only thing that’s showing is that you should at no time if possible listen to the public opinion.
goes to show the irrationality being the partisan mindset
Trump wins the election, there’s like a 10% drop among Democrats during Obama’s lame duck period. Biden wins the election, there’s like a 50% drop among Republicans during Trump’s lame duck period. That’s some Fox News pre-gaming right there.
I’d also like to see a graph comparing stock prices and economic growth rates.
Obviously there’s some bias on both sides, but JFC the sheer disconnect between the average Republican voter and the actual state of the economy is *insane.*
It literally took the DOW losing over **10000 points** in a couple of weeks for even *half* of Republicans to be like, “eh, maybe this economy isn’t doing too great.” They harp on and on endlessly about how “Reddit isn’t real life” and “leave your echo chamber,” but this graph clearly shows that for 90% of them, reality *just does not fucking matter at all* when it comes to their opinion of the economy.
They call the democrats biased, but as proven in this chart, *most of them* are willing to acknowledge if the economy is doing well or poorly, regardless of who is president. But for like 90% of Republicans, the *only thing* that influences their opinion of the economy is the letter next to the name of the president.
I *guarantee* that when Trump takes power again, their view of the economy will instantly flip. It happened in 2016, it was like a light switch. In less than 2 weeks, FOX News went from “end times” while Obama was president to “greatest economy ever” when Trump took office.
fundamentally unserious people
The GOP propaganda machine is working as intended.
Notice how there is no middle ground with the conservatives’ perspective.
That is really interesting.
I was oblivious how highly Republicans thought of the 2017-2020 time period until this last election cycle. I remember it being rather tenuous (low job growth, no wage growth, companies were overall cautious). But they were clearly , within a year of the Trump election, all high as kites thinking how great it was.
The GOP looks crazy on this graph. Clear upswings when their guy is in power, and downswings when they lose. IN 2020, they had what looks like a week of ‘oh shit’, and then by the summer they were like “whatever our guy is in power the economy is good, ignore the millions of job losses”. And then their perception dropped like a rock when Biden got into office, before there was even an inflation problem (you can see where the inflation kicked in during 2022 where the blue line sinks, but the red line was already at sub 10% by then).
It’s like 90% of the Red line is political, and about 20% of the blue line is political.
When you’re dirt poor in a Red state all you’ve got is vibes.
I wish they had also published independents, although they tend to be just as impressionable as party affiliates.
I find it interesting that the Democrats never got above 75%, and the Republicans have the most dramatic and extreme swings of opinion.
Well. That’s not good.
Judging by the comments here and seeing what the actual voter sentiment is by the independents during this most recent elections, especially men (since men based on polling was voting by economy rather than abortion), we can see that Democrats are more off from reality of the economy than Republicans despite what Reddit thinks.
And because of what I say contradicts the Reddit echo chamber, i will be downvoted to hell and back.
It’s funny when you compare this graph with some others, for example GDP growth rate % – it’s is almost the same as democrats here. It clearly shows who actually know shit and who believes in all bullshit they are told.
It ISN’T a cult!!! Why do I have to keep saying this over and over and over???
If you go back futher it’s been like this for 50 years. 55 points for whichever party has the White House. Republicans have a base score of 20 and the Democrats have a base score of 10.
Very roughly of course.
Well, we’ll see what happens when Trump and Elon crash the economy.
It is coming if they get even ten percent of their ‘concepts of plans’ implemented!
Republicans live in a fantasy world where facts don’t matter, exhibit C
Then why are republicans care so much about the economy if they’re THAT low on this infographic?? Is/was there any other reason?
the gap on the Democrat side under 75% is probably what cost the turnout needed for Harris to win
Bad policy is good policy when it’s my team.
I am 62 years old and there has never been a year of my life when someone wasn’t complaining about the terrible state of the economy.
The funniest part of this to me is how the Republican line is mostly unresponsive to anything that wasn’t the pandemic or the right/wrong person in office. And even the pandemic only made them hesitate for a few months.
The amount of bias on the right bs the left is insane. Yes theres obviously bias on both sides but republicans shoot straight up to 100% when their party is in office then straight down to 0 when theyre not. Democrats more or less follow the actual state of the economy with somewhat of a shift toward their party. The only time dems went to 0 is when the economy fully crashed
I wish they would overlay a third line, actual performance of the economy.
FWIW the actual economy pretty much followed the blue line.
Trump gets inaugurated and Dem opinion on the economy drops from 75% positive to about 60% in a few weeks, -15 points.
Biden gets inaugurated and GOP opinion on the economy drops from 85% positive to 25% in a few weeks, -60 points.
Interesting how much more hyper-partisan the GOP is on their views of the economy
It’d be cool if there was a third line with an average of how economic experts think the economy is doing. But even they probably differ quite a bit on their assessments. I wonder if there is any objective measure that could be used for the third line.
It’s not republican vs democrat anymore, it’s educated middle-class vs blissfully ignorant poverty class, and we’re both losing to the wealth class that doesn’t gaf about any of us, and are just robbing the country blind for their own ends.
In summer of 2020 the US hit a 15% unemployment rate, the highest at any point outside the great depression, and 60% of Republicans thought the economy was “good or fairly good”.
So, Democrats are fairly stable and in line with reality, whereas Republicans swing wildly based on who’s in office. In other words, their view of the economy is strongly based on the propaganda pushed to them, while Democrats base theirs generally on reality.
That tracks.
All this graph tells me is that Republicans are impressionable idiots.
Which I already knew.
Graph showing that Dems have a meh grasp of economics, Republicans Econ = Vibes.
Wow the brainwash is real.
The only thing this shows is how tribal and partisan politics has become. Several of the responses to this post further prove that.
$4 for a dozen eggs under Biden 😡
$4 for a dozen eggs under Trump 🤠
Coukd someone more knowledgeable om this stuff give me their opinion on how this interacts with the general “People making over 100k trend democrst, people making under 100k trend republican” phenomenon we have been seeing? Could that be impacting the data? I’ve heard a lot of “the economy has been doing great if you’re already established” talk.
To me it looks like the Republican line is much more affected by the stock market (using S&P500 as a rough metric) and Democrats probably more by other factors.
[https://www.macrotrends.net/2488/sp500-10-year-daily-chart](https://www.macrotrends.net/2488/sp500-10-year-daily-chart)
Seeing the hive mind actually measured in a chart is really quite alarming
I have for a long time thought that a moderate republican president and blue chambers would be best for the economy only because republicans are so warped by who is in power to only think the economy is good when their guy is in office.
I think that is mislabeled and should be intelligence by party!
This seems to suggest GOP is much more partisan in their assessment than democrats. Dems are partisan but more tied to reality.
But I think this shows a broader point that economic sentiment doesn’t tell much about the economy but just president popularity.
Goddangit are Republicans fucking tribalistic animals… Objectivity is not their strong suit, eh?
Shouldn’t there be a control line for where the economy was through the years??
This doesn’t really mean anything otherwise..
the amount of people putting this on the conservative and not the mass media is crazy
How was this data collected?
Is it really that we just live in two different realities? Or is it that democrats have more government and DEI jobs so under Democrat administrations they have more job opportunities while republicans have more free market jobs and hence only notice an improved economy. Or is it the news media we consume? Like I’ve been consuming a lot of content discussing all the warning signs that our economy is going into recession for like 2 years now. Are the democrats just not watching content like that as much?