the us national sport is famously schooting up schools but there’s a LOT of billionaires
at the rate of mass shootings anywhere it would take less than a year though
cheesearmy1_
2 months ago
267 people were killed in school shootings in 2024. There are 2,781 billionares. Yeah it’ll take a while for that to happen. It’d be preferable if they shit billionaires instead of children, tho.
edit: google is showing different stuff for everyone its so joever
800 people / 18 people/year works out to about 44.5 years.
Edit: There’s another Wikipedia list of school shootings in the United States, but it includes things like a construction worker at a university getting shot during a robbery, and a person accidentally killing themselves by somehow having a loaded gun on them at a grad ceremony.
That other list has 145 deaths in 4 years, which works out to about 6 years to kill every billionaire.
So I guess the real answer is somewhere between 6 and 45 years.
ouzo84
2 months ago
So this question seems to be divisive on the grounds of googlefu.
1. Each day 12 children die from gun violence in America.
So if we expand the question to include all child deaths from gin violence rather than just in schools. Then **756/(12*365)= 0.172 years or 63 days to kill all the USA billionaires**
I believe these are the figures the original post was working to, but they have misrepresented the location of the majority of the children’s deaths.
No-Monitor6032
2 months ago
Are we only counting the “rampage shooter guns down innocent school children” type scenario… or are we counting all the onsie twosie gang shootouts on the playground of PS118 cause someone was slinging dope by the slides when everyone knows that’s D^(2)ius’s turf?
Either-Abies7489
2 months ago
Overall? Yeah, maybe. I can’t find the stats, but including accidental deaths worldwide, I wouldn’t be surprised.
In school shootings? It’d take 18.6 years.
2,781 billionaires, and 186 children killed in school shootings (in the US, I really can’t find other stats) from 2000-2022. We’ll call that an even 200 for the whole world, and assume that the rate is stable (it isn’t, it’s rising, but whatever). That’s 7300 days, so 0.02739726027 people/day, so exactly 6789 days, or 18.6 years.
However, 12 (ish) kids die a day from gun violence, so that’s 7.6 months.
Including accidental deaths, that bumps the number up to 23/day, so about 4 months. If we include college students around the world, it’s quite possible that that number gets up to 45 or so, which is what we need.
Calling them “schoolchildren” is a bit disingenuous, because most of these deaths aren’t in school — but that’s not to excuse these numbers, which are just plain awful. “children” does the job just fine.
ChampionshipAlarmed
2 months ago
If statistics don’t add Up, a little Experiment might clear Things Up…
Also some Countries and have a different Definition of Billion, maybe that’s the problem. For me 1 Billion=1.000.000.000.000 US has three less 0s right?
vid_23
2 months ago
Realistically you would never run out of billionaires because someone else would inherit their assets, creating more billionaires in the process.
Or it would go to the government, and we all know how that ended the last time in some part of the world
YoWhatUpGlasgow
2 months ago
It’s also made difficult by the fact that a billionaire dying doesn’t necessarily reduce the number of billionaires, and may in face increase the number of billionaires if for example a multibillionaire died and left their billions to multiple people in a will who each then became a billionaire at that point.
NicholasKai123
2 months ago
Everyone is using the rate of victims in school shootings in the US but what about general gun violence against those under the age of 18?
elastic-craptastic
2 months ago
But if they have multiple billions and multiple children then you come across the Hydra problem where you’re just creating more billionaires. Just cuz you kill him doesn’t mean you get to take their money away from their family.
Urbenmyth
2 months ago
Aha! I have figured out what calculation they used!
So, the mistake other commenters have been using – and it’s a reasonable one, to be fair – is assuming they mean “mass shootings”. But if they mean literally the rate at which school children are being *shot -* including accidental discharges, suicides, gang killings and other non-mass-shooting gun deaths- then you get 7 deaths a day. With 735 billionaires, this gives you just under three and a half months – still more then OOP, but now within “used different figures” or “miscalculation”, rather than “blatant lies”.
Now, you could ask whether this is a reasonable way of doing this calculation – if you do the per capita numbers (0.006% chance of a child getting shot per year) you get roughly 3 billion years to wipe them out. And the choice of wording almost certainly was *intended* to make you think “mass shootings”, even if it doesn’t technically say it.
But that’s probably the calculation they made.
PokemonIsTheBest9775
2 months ago
Did a quick Google search, there’s a possibility where the ‘school children’ they are refering to are children 5-17 in general ( I’m not from America, I do not know when children start school ).
Say there’s 800 billionaires, the average children that get shot per day is 23 ( 1-17 ), did the math and it takes around 34-35 days to wipe off all billionaires, so technically within 2 months. Depends on how the question is interpreted, but this statement would be true if understood this way.
This is just my interpretation of the statement, feel free to correct me, and yes, I only did a quick Google search, so I lack the proper information. I made the calculation just out of curiosity. Again, would be useful if someone can and will correct me if there’s any false info.
m71nu
2 months ago
Comparing absolute numbers does not make sense. You should compare chance of getting shot. Billionaires of course have their parties and may gather in the upcoming Trump cabinet. But they are not regularly conveniently packed together like school children. It makes no sense to postulate the US would have as many billionaire shootings as school shootings.
nah would take about 16 years
the us national sport is famously schooting up schools but there’s a LOT of billionaires
at the rate of mass shootings anywhere it would take less than a year though
267 people were killed in school shootings in 2024. There are 2,781 billionares. Yeah it’ll take a while for that to happen. It’d be preferable if they shit billionaires instead of children, tho.
edit: google is showing different stuff for everyone its so joever
In the last 10 years, there have been 88 deaths and 91 injuries from school shootings in the U.S. for an average of 18 people shot/year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_by_death_toll
As of 2024, the U.S. has a little over 800 billionaires. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_billionaires
800 people / 18 people/year works out to about 44.5 years.
Edit: There’s another Wikipedia list of school shootings in the United States, but it includes things like a construction worker at a university getting shot during a robbery, and a person accidentally killing themselves by somehow having a loaded gun on them at a grad ceremony.
That other list has 145 deaths in 4 years, which works out to about 6 years to kill every billionaire.
So I guess the real answer is somewhere between 6 and 45 years.
So this question seems to be divisive on the grounds of googlefu.
So to quote my sources:
From https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/blog/gun-violence/facts-about-gun-violence-and-school-shootings/
5. There were more school shootings in 2022 – 46 – than in any year since Columbine.
6. In 2022, 34 students and adults died
And from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_the_number_of_billionaires
As of 2024, there are 756 billionaires living in 43 of the 50 US states or Washington, D.C.
So working on that basis:
**756/34= 22.235 years or 22 years and 85 days to kill all the billionaires at the highest rate of deaths in US schools.**
Consider the is though also from https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/blog/gun-violence/facts-about-gun-violence-and-school-shootings/
1. Each day 12 children die from gun violence in America.
So if we expand the question to include all child deaths from gin violence rather than just in schools. Then **756/(12*365)= 0.172 years or 63 days to kill all the USA billionaires**
I believe these are the figures the original post was working to, but they have misrepresented the location of the majority of the children’s deaths.
Are we only counting the “rampage shooter guns down innocent school children” type scenario… or are we counting all the onsie twosie gang shootouts on the playground of PS118 cause someone was slinging dope by the slides when everyone knows that’s D^(2)ius’s turf?
Overall? Yeah, maybe. I can’t find the stats, but including accidental deaths worldwide, I wouldn’t be surprised.
In school shootings? It’d take 18.6 years.
2,781 billionaires, and 186 children killed in school shootings (in the US, I really can’t find other stats) from 2000-2022. We’ll call that an even 200 for the whole world, and assume that the rate is stable (it isn’t, it’s rising, but whatever). That’s 7300 days, so 0.02739726027 people/day, so exactly 6789 days, or 18.6 years.
However, 12 (ish) kids die a day from gun violence, so that’s 7.6 months.
Including accidental deaths, that bumps the number up to 23/day, so about 4 months. If we include college students around the world, it’s quite possible that that number gets up to 45 or so, which is what we need.
Calling them “schoolchildren” is a bit disingenuous, because most of these deaths aren’t in school — but that’s not to excuse these numbers, which are just plain awful. “children” does the job just fine.
If statistics don’t add Up, a little Experiment might clear Things Up…
Also some Countries and have a different Definition of Billion, maybe that’s the problem. For me 1 Billion=1.000.000.000.000 US has three less 0s right?
Realistically you would never run out of billionaires because someone else would inherit their assets, creating more billionaires in the process.
Or it would go to the government, and we all know how that ended the last time in some part of the world
It’s also made difficult by the fact that a billionaire dying doesn’t necessarily reduce the number of billionaires, and may in face increase the number of billionaires if for example a multibillionaire died and left their billions to multiple people in a will who each then became a billionaire at that point.
Everyone is using the rate of victims in school shootings in the US but what about general gun violence against those under the age of 18?
But if they have multiple billions and multiple children then you come across the Hydra problem where you’re just creating more billionaires. Just cuz you kill him doesn’t mean you get to take their money away from their family.
Aha! I have figured out what calculation they used!
So, the mistake other commenters have been using – and it’s a reasonable one, to be fair – is assuming they mean “mass shootings”. But if they mean literally the rate at which school children are being *shot -* including accidental discharges, suicides, gang killings and other non-mass-shooting gun deaths- then you get 7 deaths a day. With 735 billionaires, this gives you just under three and a half months – still more then OOP, but now within “used different figures” or “miscalculation”, rather than “blatant lies”.
Now, you could ask whether this is a reasonable way of doing this calculation – if you do the per capita numbers (0.006% chance of a child getting shot per year) you get roughly 3 billion years to wipe them out. And the choice of wording almost certainly was *intended* to make you think “mass shootings”, even if it doesn’t technically say it.
But that’s probably the calculation they made.
Did a quick Google search, there’s a possibility where the ‘school children’ they are refering to are children 5-17 in general ( I’m not from America, I do not know when children start school ).
Say there’s 800 billionaires, the average children that get shot per day is 23 ( 1-17 ), did the math and it takes around 34-35 days to wipe off all billionaires, so technically within 2 months. Depends on how the question is interpreted, but this statement would be true if understood this way.
This is just my interpretation of the statement, feel free to correct me, and yes, I only did a quick Google search, so I lack the proper information. I made the calculation just out of curiosity. Again, would be useful if someone can and will correct me if there’s any false info.
Comparing absolute numbers does not make sense. You should compare chance of getting shot. Billionaires of course have their parties and may gather in the upcoming Trump cabinet. But they are not regularly conveniently packed together like school children. It makes no sense to postulate the US would have as many billionaire shootings as school shootings.