What’s interesting whenever this topic comes up is no one has established that “saving $2T” is actually a good thing. What are the consequences What do I – as an individual citizen – gain from “saving” this money? What services do I lose access to?
And is that $2T *total*? Every year? Over 4 years? As in, I assume the argument is that the $2T would be “saved” by giving citizens a tax break? But am I getting my part of that $2T every year? Every 4 years? Once?
Actual-Interest-4130
3 months ago
Edison who electrocuted an elephant to ‘prove’ the dangers of Tesla’s AC? *That* Edison?
thefirstlaughingfool
3 months ago
They don’t even have the balls to compare him to Nicola Tesla.
wogsurfer
3 months ago
Just shows how much Americans still suck the dick of Edison.
99problemsIDaint1
3 months ago
It’s always funny how people that have literally accomplished nothing want to tear down major contributors to humanity.
trilobyte-dev
3 months ago
What I want to know is why Benioff is cozying up to Musk
WDtWW
3 months ago
Ironic his company is called tesla when he acts like Edison did towards Tesla.
daveykroc
3 months ago
The $2t is more than the entire discretionary budget. So you have to zero out all spending (i.e. take the military to zero) and then still reduce social security or Medicare a little after that. What a clown.
DoNotPetTheSnake
3 months ago
Evil capitalist who exploits intelligent people and suppresses anything that would compete with his business model.
Toph-Builds-the-fire
3 months ago
Elon is gonna electrocute an elephant isn’t he?
flinjager123
3 months ago
Woah, what a coincidence. I can’t stand Musk, and I also can’t stand Edison.
SquishySand
3 months ago
Mark Benioff is the nepo-baby cousin of David Benioff, the nepo-baby who ruined Game of Thrones. It’s a big club and we aren’t in it.
SuperBwahBwah
3 months ago
Reminds me of the squidward meme; fUtUree
paranoidthrowaway_1
3 months ago
That squidward meme is amazing, does anyone have it
RefrigeratorPrize797
3 months ago
We need a wizard to come along and ruin his day
RaphaeliskoolbutRude
3 months ago
As someone that is contracted at spacex, this is incredibly true! Whenever I go there I see people burnt out and hating life.
Cinemaphreak
3 months ago
Nah, Edison at least invented something before he began to take credit. Musk has not been the creator of any of the products he is associated with. Not even Paypal.
Musk is solely about the money and simply recognizing the potential of a product to make more money.
fabulousfizban
3 months ago
If Edison cosplayed as Tesla
The_WolfieOne
3 months ago
MMW:
The savings from those DOGE cuts will never make it to the citizens.
They will not reduce income tax, and they will funnel that 2T$ directly up to the Oligarchs
4merly3
3 months ago
There’s so much misinformation on this site about both Edison and Tesla….
Edison was a POS but kinda deserves his recognisability in history as his teams were behind a massive amount of inventions/innovations that we use today. Yes he now gets credit for things he didn’t actually build, but we also talk about Bill Gates as if he still writes all the code for Microsoft or Hans Zimmer even though “music by Hans Zimmer” is merely a brand, a lot of compositions and work assigned to him is actually being made by underlings below him and he’s merely helping or signing off on it.
Tesla contributed very little to science in reality. It’s not “oh the real genius is Tesla” at all, he was a mad recluse that discovered DC but then proceeded to repeatedly acquire funding by over promising and making unscientific claims (remind you of anyone…?). He made claims about death rays and magical weather systems but in reality, it was daydreams from someone that seemed to have a poor grasp of the science required.
Tesla was a mentally ill recluse that fell in love with a pigeon. In some ways a modern comparison would be Steve Jobs – involved in a technological advancement and worshipped as a mad genius, but yet thought he could cure cancer by eating nearly nothing but fruit.
It’s a bit like the “Frankenstein wasn’t the monster, but wise people know he truly was the monster” – people here claim to be intelligent by writing off Edison and praising Tesla are just showing their ability to parrot info they’ve never actually read into. Part of me wonders if it’s just trendy or perhaps The Prestige film has helped encourage the myth
If you wanna worship a genius, look at people like Bohr, Linus Torvalds or Archimedes. You know, people that are actually well revered and brought innovations to their industries. Worshipping Tesla based on some vague notions about him is absolutely the same as worshipping someone like Elon Musk. It’s unfounded and there’s little evidence for them actually understanding any of the technology they claim to/are involved in. Tesla conned money out of people based on bullshit just like Musk does
Edit: some hyperbole from tbf, Tesla definitely had intuition and some good ideas – but he’s credited for lots of ideas that were being worked on by others/there’s little evidence to suggest he even succeeded. Tesla is more comparable to Da Vinci where the idea of him being this genius that touched everything is a nice myth, but in reality, we can only really attribute like one thing to them (Da Vinci really only contributed modern medical diagrams, most of his ideas were discovered centuries later in his notebooks – ie, he made little actual contributions to science and they were instead invented by others without knowledge of his work)
doctastrangluv
3 months ago
The worst part is that of course we would benefit from an organization like this, and of course they put exactly the wrong people in charge who will do the absolute worst job.
Former_Night_6053
3 months ago
How does the guy not see the irony of comparing someone leading a company that is literally called Tesla as an Edison? Makes me wonder if being a dilettante is the key to bluffing your way to “success”.
fedroxx
3 months ago
Actually, Musk is more Jean-Baptiste Zorg than anyone else.
AreYouOkay123
3 months ago
Have they discussed at all where the money will go after all of the cuts? Will it be diverted to social support programs? Or will it result in lower taxes?
khorispy27
3 months ago
Edison patented other people’s stuff sooo
Admirable-Safety1213
3 months ago
TBH, Edison actually had to get his capital throught work and the actually heroic act of unstucking a toddler with his feet stuck in the sleeper ties from the railtracks, and he never had the money to get the education to do the things the guys he contrated did until he was pretty old
Musk meanwhile had money since the start
hartforbj
3 months ago
Not sure I’ve ever heard Elon take credit for anything. He’s almost always given credit to the “team”
Sckillgan
3 months ago
Has no one ever taken economics? Seriously, Elon is one of the reasons we have the debt we do.
This is just making him more rich.
Edison ws a dirtbag loser that used the people that worked under him. It is so sad that the creators of Tesla actually let him into their company.
RVnewbie2024
3 months ago
One more Reddit group overflowing with loser leftist salty tears…🤣🤣🤣
Reynard203
3 months ago
JFC DOGE isn’t a real thing. it won’t be a real thing. Even a MAGA controlled congress knows better than this idiocy.
Various_Abrocoma_431
3 months ago
I don’t think musk is being measured for being a great engineer or scientist (although his style of system architecting and no bullshit requirements management is highly acknowledged in many engineering domains), he’s measured for getting shit done.
Tesla and SpaceX are testaments to revolutionizing industries and getting shit done.
And make no mistake it is also a result of his management for these companies to be where they are now.
AIL97
3 months ago
I’m sure we’ll all remember that guy for his tweet
Longjumping_Bid_797
3 months ago
I’ll tell you one thing, Elon doesn’t have a children’s cartoon as his twitter avatar
I still prefer to compare him to Henry Ford but it’s not inaccurate by any means.
Thomas Edison a horrible racist and antisemite is a perfect comparison for president Musk
That Squidward meme is fkn wild lol
and both of them ALSO use Teslas name for their benefit!
Anyone familiar with the reality of Thomas Edison will know why that comparison is not a compliment lol
And even this comparison is a bit too mean towards Edison.
Which large land mammal will he execute with a competitors product?
Man really named it DOGE. How much divorced aura can a single man put out?
They inadvertently got one right.
>Imagine $2T in savings
https://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/print_document.cfm?document_id=1948
What’s interesting whenever this topic comes up is no one has established that “saving $2T” is actually a good thing. What are the consequences What do I – as an individual citizen – gain from “saving” this money? What services do I lose access to?
And is that $2T *total*? Every year? Over 4 years? As in, I assume the argument is that the $2T would be “saved” by giving citizens a tax break? But am I getting my part of that $2T every year? Every 4 years? Once?
Edison who electrocuted an elephant to ‘prove’ the dangers of Tesla’s AC? *That* Edison?
They don’t even have the balls to compare him to Nicola Tesla.
Just shows how much Americans still suck the dick of Edison.
It’s always funny how people that have literally accomplished nothing want to tear down major contributors to humanity.
What I want to know is why Benioff is cozying up to Musk
Ironic his company is called tesla when he acts like Edison did towards Tesla.
The $2t is more than the entire discretionary budget. So you have to zero out all spending (i.e. take the military to zero) and then still reduce social security or Medicare a little after that. What a clown.
Evil capitalist who exploits intelligent people and suppresses anything that would compete with his business model.
Elon is gonna electrocute an elephant isn’t he?
Woah, what a coincidence. I can’t stand Musk, and I also can’t stand Edison.
Mark Benioff is the nepo-baby cousin of David Benioff, the nepo-baby who ruined Game of Thrones. It’s a big club and we aren’t in it.
Reminds me of the squidward meme; fUtUree
That squidward meme is amazing, does anyone have it
We need a wizard to come along and ruin his day
As someone that is contracted at spacex, this is incredibly true! Whenever I go there I see people burnt out and hating life.
Nah, Edison at least invented something before he began to take credit. Musk has not been the creator of any of the products he is associated with. Not even Paypal.
Musk is solely about the money and simply recognizing the potential of a product to make more money.
If Edison cosplayed as Tesla
MMW:
The savings from those DOGE cuts will never make it to the citizens.
They will not reduce income tax, and they will funnel that 2T$ directly up to the Oligarchs
There’s so much misinformation on this site about both Edison and Tesla….
Edison was a POS but kinda deserves his recognisability in history as his teams were behind a massive amount of inventions/innovations that we use today. Yes he now gets credit for things he didn’t actually build, but we also talk about Bill Gates as if he still writes all the code for Microsoft or Hans Zimmer even though “music by Hans Zimmer” is merely a brand, a lot of compositions and work assigned to him is actually being made by underlings below him and he’s merely helping or signing off on it.
Tesla contributed very little to science in reality. It’s not “oh the real genius is Tesla” at all, he was a mad recluse that discovered DC but then proceeded to repeatedly acquire funding by over promising and making unscientific claims (remind you of anyone…?). He made claims about death rays and magical weather systems but in reality, it was daydreams from someone that seemed to have a poor grasp of the science required.
Tesla was a mentally ill recluse that fell in love with a pigeon. In some ways a modern comparison would be Steve Jobs – involved in a technological advancement and worshipped as a mad genius, but yet thought he could cure cancer by eating nearly nothing but fruit.
It’s a bit like the “Frankenstein wasn’t the monster, but wise people know he truly was the monster” – people here claim to be intelligent by writing off Edison and praising Tesla are just showing their ability to parrot info they’ve never actually read into. Part of me wonders if it’s just trendy or perhaps The Prestige film has helped encourage the myth
If you wanna worship a genius, look at people like Bohr, Linus Torvalds or Archimedes. You know, people that are actually well revered and brought innovations to their industries. Worshipping Tesla based on some vague notions about him is absolutely the same as worshipping someone like Elon Musk. It’s unfounded and there’s little evidence for them actually understanding any of the technology they claim to/are involved in. Tesla conned money out of people based on bullshit just like Musk does
Edit: some hyperbole from tbf, Tesla definitely had intuition and some good ideas – but he’s credited for lots of ideas that were being worked on by others/there’s little evidence to suggest he even succeeded. Tesla is more comparable to Da Vinci where the idea of him being this genius that touched everything is a nice myth, but in reality, we can only really attribute like one thing to them (Da Vinci really only contributed modern medical diagrams, most of his ideas were discovered centuries later in his notebooks – ie, he made little actual contributions to science and they were instead invented by others without knowledge of his work)
The worst part is that of course we would benefit from an organization like this, and of course they put exactly the wrong people in charge who will do the absolute worst job.
How does the guy not see the irony of comparing someone leading a company that is literally called Tesla as an Edison? Makes me wonder if being a dilettante is the key to bluffing your way to “success”.
Actually, Musk is more Jean-Baptiste Zorg than anyone else.
Have they discussed at all where the money will go after all of the cuts? Will it be diverted to social support programs? Or will it result in lower taxes?
Edison patented other people’s stuff sooo
TBH, Edison actually had to get his capital throught work and the actually heroic act of unstucking a toddler with his feet stuck in the sleeper ties from the railtracks, and he never had the money to get the education to do the things the guys he contrated did until he was pretty old
Musk meanwhile had money since the start
Not sure I’ve ever heard Elon take credit for anything. He’s almost always given credit to the “team”
Has no one ever taken economics? Seriously, Elon is one of the reasons we have the debt we do.
This is just making him more rich.
Edison ws a dirtbag loser that used the people that worked under him. It is so sad that the creators of Tesla actually let him into their company.
One more Reddit group overflowing with loser leftist salty tears…🤣🤣🤣
JFC DOGE isn’t a real thing. it won’t be a real thing. Even a MAGA controlled congress knows better than this idiocy.
I don’t think musk is being measured for being a great engineer or scientist (although his style of system architecting and no bullshit requirements management is highly acknowledged in many engineering domains), he’s measured for getting shit done.
Tesla and SpaceX are testaments to revolutionizing industries and getting shit done.
And make no mistake it is also a result of his management for these companies to be where they are now.
I’m sure we’ll all remember that guy for his tweet
I’ll tell you one thing, Elon doesn’t have a children’s cartoon as his twitter avatar