My niece died from a PE. Whoever this denial is for needs to be extra vigilant with their health.
fastfood12
2 months ago
This is probably that automatic denial that United is so famous for. Appeal it and don’t let it go.
shapeofthings
2 months ago
That makes no sense. Pulmonary embolism can kill at a moments notice, you have to be kept stable and be monitored whilst they stabilize your INR. It also reads like it was written by a 3 year old.
TheMireMind
2 months ago
An insurance company’s AI program tells the hospital what care is necessary for a patient?
b0xtarts
2 months ago
They DDD ing you what u gonna do about it!!!!!! What are we all gonna do about it)??
atticusfinch1973
2 months ago
My god that is absolutely disgusting. Very obviously done by AI and I hope if anything bad happens to that person they sue the living crap out of UHC. If they are alive, of course.
HeavenlyPossum
2 months ago
Remember when Republicans lost their shit over the idea that Obamacare would impose death panels?
Americans already had those—they’re called “health insurance companies.”
FreedomFallout
2 months ago
“To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
Anaptyso
2 months ago
Maybe I’m not getting this, because I come from another country with a very different system, but why the fuck does an _insurance company_ get to effectively say that they understand the medical needs better than the doctor?
Surely the way it should work is that the health experts at the hospital determine what healthcare is necessary, and then the insurance covers the bill.
OK, how it _really_ should work, in my lefty point of view, is that the state picks up the bill, but if you have to have an insurance based system then it is madness if they can just decide not to cover some or all of the bill.
bateau_du_gateau
2 months ago
100% written by the AI they just introduced. No employees, no payouts, just 100% profit.
AlternativeAd7151
2 months ago
“A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a ~~management~~ medical decision.”
Unique-Abberation
2 months ago
How many times do we need to teach them a lesson?
mycatsnameisnoodle
2 months ago
In 2015 I was hospitalized with a PE. If my insurance company had denied my two day stay it would have cost me about 50k. I would definitely be

2NDPLACEWIN
2 months ago

davechri
2 months ago
Somebody should do something about this.
BuddhasGarden
2 months ago
Who wrote this? It looks like a 13 year old wrote it.
cerealfordinneragain
2 months ago
Artificial death panels
FullGrownHip
2 months ago
It still makes no sense to me how someone with no medical education can just deny people medical care because they don’t think it’s necessary. That’s insane.
manikwolf19
2 months ago
This is immoral and unethical
edx74
2 months ago
So they aren’t covering your hospital stay because all they needed to do in the hospital was watch you, which they did, and since nothing else happened, it was unnecessary.
That’s like hiring a security guard to watch your store, and when nothing gets stolen, you refuse to pay them, because they didn’t have to stop any thieves.
anameorwhatever1
2 months ago
If a blockage breaks and goes deeper you could die at a moments notice. It would’ve been dangerous if you had been walking around all Willard nillard.
ConfusionHelpful4667
2 months ago
My husband died from a PE.
He was admitted at 6 PM and dead at 4:43 AM.
DVGower
2 months ago
The REAL Death Panels!
kkurani09
2 months ago
Health insurance was always described to me as a necessary evil. I was always focused on the part that it was evil and less that it was necessary. Think about a lack of morality an individual must have to go and work at these companies.
lavendermarker
2 months ago
reading that reason makes me feel like I’m having a stroke. PE is serious; it can and does kill!
Pleasemakeitdarker
2 months ago
Everyone needs to start filing division of insurance complaints for these denials. I went head to head with my insurance company for trying to make me take a medication that made me suicidal a second time before they would cover the meds that work (that they accidentally covered for one month before denying.) If they get absurd amounts of complaints, they will likely do something just to make the annoying contact stop.
orangesfwr
2 months ago
You should have told the hospital they were wrong and that staying was not medically necessary. That’s on you. [/s]
stihlmental
2 months ago
Besides, why is a patient responsible for a decision made by a qualified professional?!
As per the diagnosis, this person, or in this case, looks like AI has no clue about what they are reading. Is it a doctor who is making this decision for denial? If not, and the person dies, does the family have a right to sue said insurance company? Why has not done this yet? Make the law suit as high as possible. Make they pay, and I do not mean for the peanuts they want to settle for.
SquashDue502
2 months ago
I love how they expect you to know that when you go to the hospital concerned something is wrong. Like bro I’m just doing what the doctor tells me wtf 😂
Stupid me for not knowing I didn’t need a breathing machine, I’ll be sure to tell the fucking emergency room doctor to pound sand next time
formerly_gruntled
2 months ago
This is the total patient care that Andrew Witty is talking about! Why would any hospital dare to let doctors determine the proper course of care? What do they know about medicine? Certainly not more than this denialcare bot.
Plus, you didn’t die. Sure, you might have died and you might have needed intensive intervention. Blood clots are serious things. But sometimes they aren’t. So we can retrospectively deny care where the outcome is successful. Blame your doctors.
Our leader, Andrew Witty, has said that the goal is “making health care more affordable, more transparent, more intuitive, more compassionate — and more human.” Just not for you.
ironic-hat
2 months ago

bfjd4u
2 months ago
Legalized extortion from a company with so little respect for its victims that it won’t even allow another human to tell you you’re screwed.
Looks like it was written with AI and likely denied by AI.
My niece died from a PE. Whoever this denial is for needs to be extra vigilant with their health.
This is probably that automatic denial that United is so famous for. Appeal it and don’t let it go.
That makes no sense. Pulmonary embolism can kill at a moments notice, you have to be kept stable and be monitored whilst they stabilize your INR. It also reads like it was written by a 3 year old.
An insurance company’s AI program tells the hospital what care is necessary for a patient?
They DDD ing you what u gonna do about it!!!!!! What are we all gonna do about it)??
My god that is absolutely disgusting. Very obviously done by AI and I hope if anything bad happens to that person they sue the living crap out of UHC. If they are alive, of course.
Remember when Republicans lost their shit over the idea that Obamacare would impose death panels?
Americans already had those—they’re called “health insurance companies.”
“To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
Maybe I’m not getting this, because I come from another country with a very different system, but why the fuck does an _insurance company_ get to effectively say that they understand the medical needs better than the doctor?
Surely the way it should work is that the health experts at the hospital determine what healthcare is necessary, and then the insurance covers the bill.
OK, how it _really_ should work, in my lefty point of view, is that the state picks up the bill, but if you have to have an insurance based system then it is madness if they can just decide not to cover some or all of the bill.
100% written by the AI they just introduced. No employees, no payouts, just 100% profit.
“A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a ~~management~~ medical decision.”
How many times do we need to teach them a lesson?
In 2015 I was hospitalized with a PE. If my insurance company had denied my two day stay it would have cost me about 50k. I would definitely be


Somebody should do something about this.
Who wrote this? It looks like a 13 year old wrote it.
Artificial death panels
It still makes no sense to me how someone with no medical education can just deny people medical care because they don’t think it’s necessary. That’s insane.
This is immoral and unethical
So they aren’t covering your hospital stay because all they needed to do in the hospital was watch you, which they did, and since nothing else happened, it was unnecessary.
That’s like hiring a security guard to watch your store, and when nothing gets stolen, you refuse to pay them, because they didn’t have to stop any thieves.
If a blockage breaks and goes deeper you could die at a moments notice. It would’ve been dangerous if you had been walking around all Willard nillard.
My husband died from a PE.
He was admitted at 6 PM and dead at 4:43 AM.
The REAL Death Panels!
Health insurance was always described to me as a necessary evil. I was always focused on the part that it was evil and less that it was necessary. Think about a lack of morality an individual must have to go and work at these companies.
reading that reason makes me feel like I’m having a stroke. PE is serious; it can and does kill!
Everyone needs to start filing division of insurance complaints for these denials. I went head to head with my insurance company for trying to make me take a medication that made me suicidal a second time before they would cover the meds that work (that they accidentally covered for one month before denying.) If they get absurd amounts of complaints, they will likely do something just to make the annoying contact stop.
You should have told the hospital they were wrong and that staying was not medically necessary. That’s on you. [/s]
Besides, why is a patient responsible for a decision made by a qualified professional?!
As per the diagnosis, this person, or in this case, looks like AI has no clue about what they are reading. Is it a doctor who is making this decision for denial? If not, and the person dies, does the family have a right to sue said insurance company? Why has not done this yet? Make the law suit as high as possible. Make they pay, and I do not mean for the peanuts they want to settle for.
I love how they expect you to know that when you go to the hospital concerned something is wrong. Like bro I’m just doing what the doctor tells me wtf 😂
Stupid me for not knowing I didn’t need a breathing machine, I’ll be sure to tell the fucking emergency room doctor to pound sand next time
This is the total patient care that Andrew Witty is talking about! Why would any hospital dare to let doctors determine the proper course of care? What do they know about medicine? Certainly not more than this denialcare bot.
Plus, you didn’t die. Sure, you might have died and you might have needed intensive intervention. Blood clots are serious things. But sometimes they aren’t. So we can retrospectively deny care where the outcome is successful. Blame your doctors.
Our leader, Andrew Witty, has said that the goal is “making health care more affordable, more transparent, more intuitive, more compassionate — and more human.” Just not for you.

Legalized extortion from a company with so little respect for its victims that it won’t even allow another human to tell you you’re screwed.