i believe it. a lot of men(and women but mostly men) take the first rejection to heart and think they arent lovable. it doesnt help that humans can be exceptionally cruel.
Unique_Year4144
24 days ago
They had to nerf me for the plot ๐ ?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97dd424e2b825ed6f09a1cc018a24ee5aa0cfc3b
SmallLittleCecil
24 days ago
Skill issue
Real talk though itโs tuff, but it gets easier the more you go out of your way to have regular positive interactions with no expectations of anything further. It helps with confidence a lot
Afraid-Housing-6854
24 days ago
And this is why women should start approaching the men theyโre interested in, because the guy might not have the confidence to come to her.
Narquilum
24 days ago
It’s difficult to when you get posted online to be mocked and laughed at for even trying
wassdfffvgggh
24 days ago
As someone who has been skydiving more than 100 times, I’ll say:
1. Skydiving is way easier than dating.
2. Skydiving doesn’t help for dating. I put pictures skydiving (by myself, no tandem) on my dating apps hoping girls would find it impressive or something, but none of them seemed to care.
I have dated and been in relationships btw, I’m just saying skydiving is easier.
avalve
24 days ago
Yeah a lot of people ask others out on dating apps and social media. You donโt walk up to a random girl in person and say โhey let me take you outโ thatโs how you get pepper sprayed and labeled a creep.
expertopinionhaver
24 days ago
If you go skydiving, the worst thing that can happen is you die.
BonWeech
24 days ago
Yeah, men have been told that itโs creepy to approach women (which in many cases, it certainly is) and that mantra created this disparity. So women are getting what they want, which isnโt fundamentally a bad thing, and weโre shocked about the result?
EeyoresM8
24 days ago
I always figured asking someone out was a movie thing, it feels so unnatural to me. My current and previous gfs were all women I was friends/friendly with that I just spent more time with until we acknowledged we had feelings for each other
HappyAd6201
24 days ago
I never did it, but thatโs just because Iโm gay
nrkishere
24 days ago
I blame deep rooted patriarchy and stupid gender roles for this. Society expects men to make the first move and most of us would not take risk of being laughed at or being called creep even.
There’s no sign of changing anything. AI roleplay is the future, because AGI is coming regardless.
sausage_phest2
24 days ago
Fear of falling to oneโs death is more acceptable than the fear of being rejected
tsesarevichalexei
24 days ago
Dating apps need to be banned.
They have inflated expectations to an absurd degree, have destroyed self confidence AND they commodify human relationships (late-stage capitalism if Iโve ever seen it).
Also, instead of focusing on suppressing specific political speech (depending on which administration is in power), social media platforms should focus on cracking down on rage-bait, which brings out the worst of both genders.
KairoRed
24 days ago
Iโm too scared to be seen as a creep
Spoofermanner
24 days ago
Making someone uncomfortable with my presence is one of my biggest fears, Iโm not doing that to a stranger
Extension_College_28
24 days ago
This seems odd. Gen z guys approach me frequently. Iโm not even that attractive.
Anon_Gloomer
24 days ago
I’d definitely find it much easier to throw myself out of an aeroplane than ask a women out.
kieranarchy
24 days ago
i have a lot of female friends and they all have horror stories about men being weird when asking them out. im autistic so not always sure how i come off and also really nervous around people I’m attracted to which i think is a really bad combination since im not trying to end up blasted on tiktok for just trying. taking advice btw
ltra_og
24 days ago
So how many women aged 18-25 have never asked out a man? Amazing that the pressure is ALWAYS on the man. I think itโs pretty accurate and the percentage is probably higher than the past but not substantially higher than previous generations.
Thereโs data on how many women ask out men around 30%. Amazingly, the data isnโt โfeasibleโsomehow for women never asking out a man. So going by that data, 70% of women aged 18-25 have never asked out a man.
The_Forth44
24 days ago
In my entire life I’ve only ever asked one woman out. Then after the date she told me she had just gotten out of a relationship and needed some time to figure things out. I said “Yeah that’s totally fine staying friends for now is no problem at all I had a really good time with you.” Then she ghosted me. Will not be asking any other women out.
Bobpencil1
24 days ago
Honestly, it just doesn’t seem worth it anymore.
Spicy_take
24 days ago
โThe worst she can say is noโ is no longer true. And we all know it. So I donโt doubt it. Training yourself to give no fucks is becoming a lost ability.
ButterfliesGarbrandt
24 days ago
In person is dangerous.
RainbowLoli
24 days ago
I’m not surprised.
People in general are discouraged from approaching anyone in public unless you are at a bar or club. I even see takes occasionally being like “Don’t ask out your female friends because you’ll ruin the friendship” so I wouldn’t be surprised if that kind of mentality also contributes as if you are friends with someone… you are unable to enter a romantic relationship with them or even consider it for ??? reason.
Their only options are dating apps and dating apps are honestly shit for everyone involved.
Ajaws24142822
24 days ago
Social pressure coupled with this weird idea mass media has created where youโre a creep if you talk to women but also youโre expected by society to make the first move, while incel culture basically tells you women are evilโฆ
TL;DR itโs social media. Men are more socially anxious now
Zipflik
24 days ago
Well if the results range from “nah I’m good” through public and internet mockery, to actually life ruining, are all relatively likely, the risk outweighs the possible reward.
Cool-Tip8804
24 days ago
Iโve been told by reddit women donโt want to be approached. I literally have it in my history comments. It was a while ago. But itโs there.
Lmao
mark1x12110
24 days ago
It’s 99/1 chance of rejection/success
I’d rather try in dating apps and save myself from the awkward situation
Thrill-Clinton
24 days ago
Going on day two of this discourse, and with a whole new post. Congrats
Dogolog22
24 days ago
Some online streamer said it best one time. Can’t remember who.
“You can get a guy to climb the empire state building before he’ll talk to a woman.”
Barbados_slim12
24 days ago
More men(especially at our age) are openly gay, and we grew up in an era when the popular message was for our moms to “train” the “toxic masculinity” out of us. Women aren’t on the planet to serve you, so what gives you the right to approach her in public.. so on so forth. Then add in cell phones with cameras/tiktok to the mix. Now you can easily be blasted online for millions to judge if someone’s filming. It’s a wonder that 55% *have* asked out a woman in person, and more likely than not, they were already friends. At least with online dating, you’ve both given consent to be approached in that regard. You can reasonably assume that you’re both on the site for that purpose, so you can make your move without the fear of being blasted as a creep.
throwawayra32442
24 days ago
Most men are too undesirable for most women
curious_lychee9
24 days ago
Doesnโt shock me, ppl just donโt do that anymore. Iโm 30 and have never asked anyone out or approached anyone irl.
ChefHoneyBadger
24 days ago
Gays don’t have this problem. ๐๐ณ๏ธโ๐
VinylHighway
24 days ago
99% of women age 18-25 have never asked out a man in person
devinbookersuncle
24 days ago
Count me in that equation, been asked out but don’t consider myself good enough to go ask someone out just because introverted, no self-esteem, and a long history of depression.
daffy_M02
24 days ago
Why did Gen Z listen to the boomer generation about the future?
HalfChineseJesus
24 days ago
My nephews always tell me that them saying no isnโt the worst thing that can happen anymore, theyโll be shamed or ridiculed on a public scale now
Numerator999
24 days ago
Sad statistic…
Adot090288
24 days ago
Iโm a millennial who worked as a bottle service girl, and damn times have changed. These guys use to try 99 times to get one yes, but they damn sure didnโt let the 98 noโs get them down.
i believe it. a lot of men(and women but mostly men) take the first rejection to heart and think they arent lovable. it doesnt help that humans can be exceptionally cruel.
They had to nerf me for the plot ๐
?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97dd424e2b825ed6f09a1cc018a24ee5aa0cfc3b
Skill issue
Real talk though itโs tuff, but it gets easier the more you go out of your way to have regular positive interactions with no expectations of anything further. It helps with confidence a lot
And this is why women should start approaching the men theyโre interested in, because the guy might not have the confidence to come to her.
It’s difficult to when you get posted online to be mocked and laughed at for even trying
As someone who has been skydiving more than 100 times, I’ll say:
1. Skydiving is way easier than dating.
2. Skydiving doesn’t help for dating. I put pictures skydiving (by myself, no tandem) on my dating apps hoping girls would find it impressive or something, but none of them seemed to care.
I have dated and been in relationships btw, I’m just saying skydiving is easier.
Yeah a lot of people ask others out on dating apps and social media. You donโt walk up to a random girl in person and say โhey let me take you outโ thatโs how you get pepper sprayed and labeled a creep.
If you go skydiving, the worst thing that can happen is you die.
Yeah, men have been told that itโs creepy to approach women (which in many cases, it certainly is) and that mantra created this disparity. So women are getting what they want, which isnโt fundamentally a bad thing, and weโre shocked about the result?
I always figured asking someone out was a movie thing, it feels so unnatural to me. My current and previous gfs were all women I was friends/friendly with that I just spent more time with until we acknowledged we had feelings for each other
I never did it, but thatโs just because Iโm gay
I blame deep rooted patriarchy and stupid gender roles for this. Society expects men to make the first move and most of us would not take risk of being laughed at or being called creep even.
There’s no sign of changing anything. AI roleplay is the future, because AGI is coming regardless.
Fear of falling to oneโs death is more acceptable than the fear of being rejected
Dating apps need to be banned.
They have inflated expectations to an absurd degree, have destroyed self confidence AND they commodify human relationships (late-stage capitalism if Iโve ever seen it).
Also, instead of focusing on suppressing specific political speech (depending on which administration is in power), social media platforms should focus on cracking down on rage-bait, which brings out the worst of both genders.
Iโm too scared to be seen as a creep
Making someone uncomfortable with my presence is one of my biggest fears, Iโm not doing that to a stranger
This seems odd. Gen z guys approach me frequently. Iโm not even that attractive.
I’d definitely find it much easier to throw myself out of an aeroplane than ask a women out.
i have a lot of female friends and they all have horror stories about men being weird when asking them out. im autistic so not always sure how i come off and also really nervous around people I’m attracted to which i think is a really bad combination since im not trying to end up blasted on tiktok for just trying. taking advice btw
So how many women aged 18-25 have never asked out a man? Amazing that the pressure is ALWAYS on the man. I think itโs pretty accurate and the percentage is probably higher than the past but not substantially higher than previous generations.
Thereโs data on how many women ask out men around 30%. Amazingly, the data isnโt โfeasibleโsomehow for women never asking out a man. So going by that data, 70% of women aged 18-25 have never asked out a man.
In my entire life I’ve only ever asked one woman out. Then after the date she told me she had just gotten out of a relationship and needed some time to figure things out. I said “Yeah that’s totally fine staying friends for now is no problem at all I had a really good time with you.” Then she ghosted me. Will not be asking any other women out.
Honestly, it just doesn’t seem worth it anymore.
โThe worst she can say is noโ is no longer true. And we all know it. So I donโt doubt it. Training yourself to give no fucks is becoming a lost ability.
In person is dangerous.
I’m not surprised.
People in general are discouraged from approaching anyone in public unless you are at a bar or club. I even see takes occasionally being like “Don’t ask out your female friends because you’ll ruin the friendship” so I wouldn’t be surprised if that kind of mentality also contributes as if you are friends with someone… you are unable to enter a romantic relationship with them or even consider it for ??? reason.
Their only options are dating apps and dating apps are honestly shit for everyone involved.
Social pressure coupled with this weird idea mass media has created where youโre a creep if you talk to women but also youโre expected by society to make the first move, while incel culture basically tells you women are evilโฆ
TL;DR itโs social media. Men are more socially anxious now
Well if the results range from “nah I’m good” through public and internet mockery, to actually life ruining, are all relatively likely, the risk outweighs the possible reward.
Iโve been told by reddit women donโt want to be approached. I literally have it in my history comments. It was a while ago. But itโs there.
Lmao
It’s 99/1 chance of rejection/success
I’d rather try in dating apps and save myself from the awkward situation
Going on day two of this discourse, and with a whole new post. Congrats
Some online streamer said it best one time. Can’t remember who.
“You can get a guy to climb the empire state building before he’ll talk to a woman.”
More men(especially at our age) are openly gay, and we grew up in an era when the popular message was for our moms to “train” the “toxic masculinity” out of us. Women aren’t on the planet to serve you, so what gives you the right to approach her in public.. so on so forth. Then add in cell phones with cameras/tiktok to the mix. Now you can easily be blasted online for millions to judge if someone’s filming. It’s a wonder that 55% *have* asked out a woman in person, and more likely than not, they were already friends. At least with online dating, you’ve both given consent to be approached in that regard. You can reasonably assume that you’re both on the site for that purpose, so you can make your move without the fear of being blasted as a creep.
Most men are too undesirable for most women
Doesnโt shock me, ppl just donโt do that anymore. Iโm 30 and have never asked anyone out or approached anyone irl.
Gays don’t have this problem. ๐๐ณ๏ธโ๐
99% of women age 18-25 have never asked out a man in person
Count me in that equation, been asked out but don’t consider myself good enough to go ask someone out just because introverted, no self-esteem, and a long history of depression.
Why did Gen Z listen to the boomer generation about the future?
My nephews always tell me that them saying no isnโt the worst thing that can happen anymore, theyโll be shamed or ridiculed on a public scale now
Sad statistic…
Iโm a millennial who worked as a bottle service girl, and damn times have changed. These guys use to try 99 times to get one yes, but they damn sure didnโt let the 98 noโs get them down.